cm125 Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Not sure if that meant they were confirming one week wait (circa 4/29-4/30) or imply it may be sooner. https://twitter.com/BorenAwards/status/326706461235372032
Lauren2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 So how many f e l l o w s h i p. applicants have recieved a budget email (an email asking to clarify your budget,not dates)? I havent recieved one so I am pretty sure I am not getting in. I think a good thing to keep in mind is that the spreadsheet is only 32 out of 526 applicants. So nobody really knows how significant the emails could be!
Utahyankee Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 (edited) I have a feeling they are still sticking to next week, but it would be great if they told us this week. Edit: that was supposed to be a replay to cm125. Edited April 23, 2013 by Utahyankee
alexpen Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Queenskid- where are you planning to stay in Argentina? I spent a year there during undergrad.
queenskid Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 I will be in palermo ba. yeah i know its in the spreadsheet but im double checking to verify that the fellowship budget emails went out, i am not sure that everyone who said they got a budget email really did. i think there has been some confusion bte thr budget email and the date confirmation email. also some of the folks who verified recieving a budget email (fellows not scholarship apps) are anonymous and i just want to hear from them.
potatopower12 Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Ugh zero hope... I wouldn't give up hope yet. I mean, look at the scholarship applicants. All of us but ONE got "the" budget e-mail. I highly doubt they have the same weight as last year...
shakazulu Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Ugh zero hope... dude i know the process is stressful and the uncertainty sucks, but rest assured that you WILL get an acceptance/alternate/rejection in the next week. you will only know then. no amount of hypothesis or looking at the google doc will change that. everyone here is in the same boat. just keep your chin up, take a deep breath, and try to take your mind off it.
StyLeD Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 I wouldn't give up hope yet. I mean, look at the scholarship applicants. All of us but ONE got "the" budget e-mail. I highly doubt they have the same weight as last year... I'd be more positive about the budget email. I like to think that, with two years' data, many applicants who did not receive a budget email would not stick around long enough to fill out the spreadsheet. Hence the only applicants that do fill it out are the ones that have reason to. It could also be random chance. queenskid - Don't lose out hope. If you're confident you wrote the best application you could, then there's the chance that you're one of the few recipients who did not receive a budget email, or will receive it soon. I personally know of a fantastic applicant to South Korea who did not get a budget email and still got the award, so it does happen.
alexpen Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Queenskid- I lived in Palermo. Nice area to spend you free time walking around and taking pictures of street art. Well, if you get it, I would be more than happy to send you a list of tips. You can't give up hope because then I must also give up hope (no dates confirmation e-mail).
queenskid Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Thanks everyone. i really do appreciate it. i know you should never place so much importance on an unsure thing,but the boren really does feel like one of those things that can change your life in an instant.
queenskid Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Hey alexpen, I would actually really like that info. i have to be in ba to do my thesis work regardless of whether i get the boren award or not. thanks!
shakazulu Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 (edited) Thanks everyone. i really do appreciate it. i know you should never place so much importance on an unsure thing,but the boren really does feel like one of those things that can change your life in an instant. sure, but at the same time spanish/south america are accessible for americans. if you really wanna go down there or learn spanish, you can do it with or without the boren. if that is your goal, a boren award would be awesome, but not mandatory. imagine if you wanted to study kinyarawanda in rwanda or turkmen in turkmenistan... all of a sudden the award is a lot more important. Edited April 23, 2013 by shakazulu
Lauren2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 sure, but at the same time spanish/south america are accessible for americans. if you really wanna go down there or learn spanish, you can do it with or without the boren. if that is your goal, a boren award would be awesome, but not mandatory. imagine if you wanted to study kinyarawanda in rwanda or turkmen in turkmenistan... all of a sudden the award is a lot more important. right. lol one more week!
queenskid Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 sure, but at the same time spanish/south america are accessible for americans. if you really wanna go down there or learn spanish, you can do it with or without the boren. if that is your goal, a boren award would be awesome, but not mandatory. imagine if you wanted to study kinyarawanda in rwanda or turkmen in turkmenistan... all of a sudden the award is a lot more important. Your absolutely right, but unfortunately neither of those are my languages of focus.
Lauren2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Shakazulu - do you think that is something they take into consideration?
shakazulu Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 (edited) Your absolutely right, but unfortunately neither of those are my languages of focus. err that's what it says on the google doc. dunno what to tell you then. Shakazulu - do you think that is something they take into consideration? i know they take the relevance of your proposed study and language to national security into consideration. that said, it's probably easier to make a case for going abroad to study kinyarawanda (spoken in a huge conflict zone, has continuing relevance in resource wars in eastern congo, etc.) than doing the same to learn italian, swiss german, or swedish. there's just no demand for those languages in the natsec community. although all languages have utility in different contexts, it depends on the person, his or her personal goals, and track record of interest in the region where they propose to study. your guess is as good as mine when it comes to the selection process, but that is the dynamic as i understand it. in the end, it comes down to the individual and how he or she intends to use their linguistic skills. if i wanted to study persian, a hugely relevant language to national security, to become a specialist in medieval islamic poetry, i would most likely get shot down in a heartbeat. Edited April 23, 2013 by shakazulu
alexpen Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Lets save the regional conflict for the real world :/ Queenskid, I'd be glad to help you out however I can. Post your e-mail at some point- or create a temp one if you feel uncomfortable posting yours and we can talk about all things porteño.
lunatik Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 I've been following this thread for a while now and though I don't have anything to contribute, really, just thought I'd pop in and say -- OMG, I don't think I can wait any longer. How long, O Lord? I do have a pretty basic question, though. I applied for a country that, as far as I know, is pretty rare for Boren scholarship applicants (Ukraine)-- does the popularity of a particular country or language have any effect on one's odds of getting selected?
queenskid Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 err that's what it says on the google doc. dunno what to tell you then. i know they take the relevance of your proposed study and language to national security into consideration. that said, it's probably easier to make a case for going abroad to study kinyarawanda (spoken in a huge conflict zone, has continuing relevance in resource wars in eastern congo, etc.) than doing the same to learn italian, swiss german, or swedish. there's just no demand for those languages in the natsec community. although all languages have utility in different contexts, it depends on the person, his or her personal goals, and track record of interest in the region where they propose to study. your guess is as good as mine when it comes to the selection process, but that is the dynamic as i understand it. in the end, it comes down to the individual and how he or she intends to use their linguistic skills. if i wanted to study persian, a hugely relevant language to national security, to become a specialist in medieval islamic poetry, i would most likely get shot down in a heartbeat. I agree with you but I have to point out that a Boren fellow did receive an award to study the Spanish poetry of Borges in Argentina. She was able to demonstrate a link between poetry and politics/history. Not disagreeing with you but it does happen occasionally that seemingly trivial disciplines are chosen over very obvious ones. Depends on how creative the applicant is. good luck everyone!
KGrard Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Luckily/unluckly, final projects and school has been consuming my life the last week. I'm hoping that this next week will also fly! Queenskid - where are you studying? Shout out, any other New Yorkers? Next Tuesday will certainly be a very long morning at the office.
shakazulu Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 (edited) alright, im getting off this forum for the rest of the week. it's not conducive to being productive. best of luck to everyone and all the best! Edited April 23, 2013 by shakazulu
queenskid Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 alright, im getting off this forum for the rest of the week. it's not conducive to being productive. best of luck to everyone and all the best! Goodluck!
qaiswalayla Posted April 25, 2013 Posted April 25, 2013 I would be so happy if they just told us on Friday!
shakazulu Posted April 25, 2013 Posted April 25, 2013 (edited) Decisions are out. I got it. Dear Mr. ****, Congratulations! This email serves as unofficial notification that you have been selected to receive a 2013 National Security Education Program (NSEP) David L. Boren Fellowship. We are mailing you an award packet, which will include a Notice of Award. In order to accept your award, you must fax or email IIE a signed copy of the Notice of Award by Tuesday, May 7, 2013 or within three days of receipt of the packet. If you do not receive the packet by May 6, please let us know. A checklist of all required materials, as well as downloadable forms and deadlines can be found athttp://borenawards.org/boren_fellowship/awardee_checklist.html. Congratulations once again on your successful application! We look forward to working with you this year. Sincerely, Christopher Powers I sincerely wish the best of luck to all of you! Edited April 25, 2013 by shakazulu
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