phil1 Posted November 2, 2013 Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) I scored a 161V, 161Q and 4.5W on the GRE recently. My GPA and letters of recommendation will be strong. I am wondering if I should retake the test or devote the time to my writing sample that I have yet to complete. I am an undergraduate student and will be applying to PhD and MA programs in Continental philosophy. Thanks! Edited November 2, 2013 by phil1
alesso Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 It just so happens that I was just reading someones opinion about this topic one tab ago : ) Good luck. . phil1 1
maxhgns Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Writing sample. That's the most important part of your application. Your GRE scores are the least important, especially if they're already decent. phil1 1
philstudent1991 Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 ya, youre scores are already decent. bigger fish to fry than that phil1 1
MattDest Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 If you haven't completed your writing sample yet, you should definitely work on that instead. phil1 1
tomjonesy517 Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 no, your scores are fine. continental programs put a lot less focus on the gres. they really don't care. phil1 1
phil1 Posted November 4, 2013 Author Posted November 4, 2013 Okay, so the consensus is to focus on the writing sample. Thanks everyone for the input!
greathenate Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 I'm also wondering about this for programs besides continental. My verbal and quant were 166 and 162, but my writing was only 4. I have no idea what happened, but I'd really rather not take it again. I'm applying to top schools in philosophy of mind from a well respected undergrad program. Does anyone think that this 4 could be a defeater?
philstudent1991 Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 Doesn't help you but otherwise your scores are great and if your sample is great then no problem.
PedroMatinta Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 So, I was also wondering if I should retake the GRE. I do realize that other aspects of the application, such as the writing sample, will take precedence. That notwithstanding, I also worry that departments may grossly understate the importance of the examination. To be precise, I got a 164V and 154Q and still do not know about the analytical writing part. My undergrad gpa is 3.75 (3.9 in Philosophy) and I am expecting a First-Class MA degree from King's College London, which is not in Philosophy but in Critical Methodologies, the "continental" counterpart. So should I retake the GRE or, given the more positive 'first-cut' objective factors, is my current score sufficient? I'm anxious because of the competitiveness of those degrees as you all well know. It's worth noting though that I am not applying to any 'top-5' departments. I'm applying to Penn State, Vanderbilt, University of Oregon, Duquesne and UC, Berkeley (the last one for 'Rhetoric' and not Philosophy). So what do you think?
MattDest Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 Pedro, I would concentrate on your writing sample - those are pretty good scores, and most people who retake the GRE (myself included) don't change their score too much. May I ask what "first class MA degree" means?
PedroMatinta Posted November 10, 2013 Posted November 10, 2013 Hey, thanks for your response! A First-Class Honor Degree is the equivalent of a 4.0 GPA in the UK, though it sounds much more pretentious. The system is a little odd. You can get a Pass, a 2:2 Second Class, 2:1 Second Class and a 1:1 First Class degree.
Conscia Fati Posted November 10, 2013 Posted November 10, 2013 Do not retake it. Your scores are past the minimum threshold.
philstudent1991 Posted November 10, 2013 Posted November 10, 2013 Can I just end these threads once and for all? I completely understand applicants angst with regard to low GRE scores. But it's November, and apps are due in the next month or two. Literally everything else is more important than the GRE right now. Focus on this semester's grades, focus on your sample, focus on hunting down your letter writers and getting everything in shape for applying. Even if your GRE scores are truly abysmal, do you think you can change that in the next month? I don't mean anything against the OP, who had a 161, 161, 4.5, but those scores are just fine, and in the grand scheme of things they are really pretty good. Could they be better? Of course. But unless you got a 170, 170, 6, whose couldn't? Just focus on what really matters now, which is literally everything except for the GRE
bar_scene_gambler Posted November 10, 2013 Posted November 10, 2013 Well said philstudent. My GRE scores aren't that great, but I haven't worried about it. Poor GRE scores can be overcome if you have a good writing sample and good recommendations. Those matter more in the long run anyway, and they tell the program more about you as a potential graduate student. Focus on what matters guys/girls, because we don't have much more time.
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