Putting presentations/publishes done while in undergrad on CV?

[RedPill]

What do you all think about including undergraduate presentations on your CV as a masters, doctoral student or even a post doc? I understand that most do this for purposes of applying, but how about keeping it on until you have enough publications/presentations for the "selected publications" section to apply?

 

Is it seen as naive or pretentious or does it make sense to include presentations/publications done while an undergraduate? 

 

Does it vary depending on if it was at the university's annual undergraduate research conference or a national organization?

 

Share your thoughts!

[DuongVat]

My papers that are in actual peer reviewed journals I will keep on until I (hopefully) have enough to start doing "selected publications".

 

For my presentations, I will probably phase those out much sooner (probably by the end of grad school if I present enough).  I don't want them to water down my work that has a bit more impact, and is a bit more recent.

[jl2782]

Currently as a MS student in the process of applying to Ph.D. programs I included undergraduate presentations/publications on my CV. This included presentations done at my institution (annual university research conference), national conferences, and summer research programs. For the purposes of applying to Ph.D. programs depending on your discipline, you want to include every presentation/publication that is relevant to the program that you are applying to for graduate school even if this includes stuff done as a ug or master's student. Regarding the "selected publications" section on your CV, this would only come into play when you are applying for post-doc positions, but if you don't have any publications then whatever you have should suffice until you build up your selection. 

 

I hope that this helps:-)

Edited January 18, 2014 by jl2782

[TakeruK]

I will keep all my peer-reviewed publications on my CV for quite awhile--for all fellowship applications in grad school and probably when I apply to postdocs too. I will probably think about doing "Selected Publication" when my number of publications reaches like 20 or so, but that is pretty far away still.

 

I do have "selected presentations" and I only include the most recent/most prestigious instance of each presentation/project. For example, I first presented one of my undergrad projects at a conference for students doing research at my school. Then, I presented it at a Canada-wide student run physics conference. Then, I presented it at a American Physical Society meeting. After each presentation, I removed the last entry for this project and replaced it with something better. Overall, I have one presentation listed for each main project I mention in my "Research" section of my CV.

[RedPill]

I will keep all my peer-reviewed publications on my CV for quite awhile--for all fellowship applications in grad school and probably when I apply to postdocs too. I will probably think about doing "Selected Publication" when my number of publications reaches like 20 or so, but that is pretty far away still.

 

I do have "selected presentations" and I only include the most recent/most prestigious instance of each presentation/project. For example, I first presented one of my undergrad projects at a conference for students doing research at my school. Then, I presented it at a Canada-wide student run physics conference. Then, I presented it at a American Physical Society meeting. After each presentation, I removed the last entry for this project and replaced it with something better. Overall, I have one presentation listed for each main project I mention in my "Research" section of my CV.

 

I like this idea. You've presented your same work at multiple conferences? 

[random17]

I have all my presentations at national conferences on my cv, regardless of whether I was an undergrad or grad student at the time. Similarly, I don't have enough peer-reviewed publications yet that it makes sense to take off the ones based on my undergrad research.

 

I don't include any non-national presentations (whether for summer research programs or university-wide events), even if I was a grad student at the time.

[TakeruK]

I like this idea. You've presented your same work at multiple conferences? 

 

Yep, but it's not the exact same presentation or the same audience. In the example I gave above, the audience for the 3 presentations were completely different (first one was basically only other students in all fields of science at my school, second one was all physics undergrad students across Canada, and the last one was a "real" conference, where the audience was undergrads, graduate, postdocs and faculty members doing physics research.) Also, the presentations were, in total, separated by a year, so each one had more details and I finished more work. And I would not count the first two presentations described as the same type as the last one. I think that graduate students and beyond will be mostly presenting in the third type of conference, and I would probably not present the same work at multiple conference with other full time researchers (i.e. not just undergraduates) unless I had major progress/updates.

 

In my field, most researchers are members of the American Astronomical Society (AAS), which has two annual meetings, and usually also members of one of the many divisions of the AAS, e.g. the Division of Planetary Science. These divisions have annual meetings as well, and it is not too uncommon for a person to attend and present similar work at both meetings in a year. However, it would be ideal to have different work to present of course. And, if you are working on a big project (e.g. your PhD thesis), you might present different aspects or updates to your work every year at the annual meeting.

[fuzzylogician]

I choose what to put on my CV not based on when the relevant event happened but according to what it contributes to my CV within the context of whatever purpose it is serving at the moment (job apps, fellowships, etc). When I was applying to grad school, I had pretty much anything that could be relevant on my CV, thinking that what doesn't help probably won't hurt either. At the moment I think undergrad presentations at national conferences will stay on my CV for a while to come, but undergrad conferences are no longer there. I also don't put on there any presentations done within my university, e,g, at reading groups or seminars. A university-wide competitive award from undergrad is still on my CV, but the Dean's List mentions are gone. TAing and teaching from my Masters and PhD are there, but earlier tutoring is gone. This is all based on advice I got from my professors on my specific CV and my specific situation, and if you have someone to ask about this, I suggest you do so. 

[Tall Chai Latte]

I think it depends which stage you are at, and how much you have published. For applying fellowships I put my undergrad pubs on, but I think once I have more publications from your MS/PhD, I would only leave those on my CV.

[Munashi]

My papers that are in actual peer reviewed journals I will keep on until I (hopefully) have enough to start doing "selected publications".

 

For my presentations, I will probably phase those out much sooner (probably by the end of grad school if I present enough).  I don't want them to water down my work that has a bit more impact, and is a bit more recent.

 

I think this is a good strategy, and one that I hope to employ as well.  I am *fingers crossed, if all goes well* going to be making a shift in areas soon and my research from very early in my career may not be relevant after a few years.