EchoFromZero Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 Are there any fully-funded MA/PhD programs in English Literature for international students? Thank you!
ExponentialDecay Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 What's an MA/PhD program?All reputable PhD programs are funded for everyone. MA programs tend to be funded through TAships and so on, which you can get since your visa allows you to work on campus.
ProfLorax Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 What's an MA/PhD program?I think EchoFromZero means programs that accept applicants with BA's only. Some programs, like University of Illinois and Penn State, describe their programs as being MA/PhD programs for students coming in from undergrad. Echo, do a search for international students in this forum. I feel like there's been talk about how private universities tend to be more open to international applicants due to financial factors.
EchoFromZero Posted October 31, 2015 Author Posted October 31, 2015 I think EchoFromZero means programs that accept applicants with BA's only. Some programs, like University of Illinois and Penn State, describe their programs as being MA/PhD programs for students coming in from undergrad. Echo, do a search for international students in this forum. I feel like there's been talk about how private universities tend to be more open to international applicants due to financial factors. Thank you for your advice! What I mean is, I am undergraduate, and want to apply for some MA programs and PhD programs in English.
toasterazzi Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 I'm not sure how all the specific funding details go for international students, but here at Ohio State, we have an MA/PhD program and there are international students in it with fellowships and assistantships, so that seems like a viable option.
toasterazzi Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 I think EchoFromZero means programs that accept applicants with BA's only. Some programs, like University of Illinois and Penn State, describe their programs as being MA/PhD programs for students coming in from undergrad. That's basically the distinction here at OSU because we don't have a terminal MA. You're either MFA, MA/PhD, or PhD.
EmmaJava Posted October 31, 2015 Posted October 31, 2015 toasterazzi, your mention of OSU has me wanting to PM you, is that alright by you?
toasterazzi Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 toasterazzi, your mention of OSU has me wanting to PM you, is that alright by you?Go for it!
mightysparrow Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) Hi, EchoFromZero. I know I'm late to this (I haven't stopped by gradcafe in several months), but I wanted to reiterate ProfLorax's observation that private universities may be more accepting of international students than public universities. I can only attest to the procedure here at Ohio State (I joined this fall), where there are significant limitations imposed by the graduate school on the English department in its intake of international students (I was told this by a senior professor who has held various administrative positions). Intls do not become Ohio residents after a year (US citizens who move to Columbus do) and so the tuition waiver for Intl students over 5 years amounts to about thrice as much as the tuition for US citizens (A LOT). It's very possible that other state schools have similar restrictions on the number of funded international students they admit. By my count, I'd say OSU takes in at most 1 international student in a cohort of 18-20 (although I have heard that something like 10-20% of applicants are internationals). Hope this helps! Good luck Edited November 26, 2015 by mightysparrow
ExponentialDecay Posted November 27, 2015 Posted November 27, 2015 On November 26, 2015 at 05:11:19, mightysparrow said: Hi, EchoFromZero. I know I'm late to this (I haven't stopped by gradcafe in several months), but I wanted to reiterate ProfLorax's observation that private universities may be more accepting of international students than public universities. I can only attest to the procedure here at Ohio State (I joined this fall), where there are significant limitations imposed by the graduate school on the English department in its intake of international students (I was told this by a senior professor who has held various administrative positions). Intls do not become Ohio residents after a year (US citizens who move to Columbus do) and so the tuition waiver for Intl students over 5 years amounts to about thrice as much as the tuition for US citizens (A LOT). It's very possible that other state schools have similar restrictions on the number of funded international students they admit. By my count, I'd say OSU takes in at most 1 international student in a cohort of 18-20 (although I have heard that something like 10-20% of applicants are internationals). Hope this helps! Good luck Same is true for the UC system.
1Q84 Posted November 27, 2015 Posted November 27, 2015 Anyone who's interested in fully-funded MA programs for international students, check out Loyola Marymount in Los Angeles. Scholarships and TAships fully cover tuition. If you'd like anymore information, feel free to PM me!
__________________________ Posted November 27, 2015 Posted November 27, 2015 On 10/30/2015, 10:27:52, EchoFromZero said: Are there any fully-funded MA/PhD programs in English Literature for international students? Thank you! On 10/31/2015, 8:58:21, ProfLorax said: I feel like there's been talk about how private universities tend to be more open to international applicants due to financial factors. On 11/25/2015, 10:11:19, mightysparrow said: Hi, EchoFromZero. I know I'm late to this (I haven't stopped by gradcafe in several months), but I wanted to reiterate ProfLorax's observation that private universities may be more accepting of international students than public universities. I can only attest to the procedure here at Ohio State (I joined this fall), where there are significant limitations imposed by the graduate school on the English department in its intake of international students (I was told this by a senior professor who has held various administrative positions). Intls do not become Ohio residents after a year (US citizens who move to Columbus do) and so the tuition waiver for Intl students over 5 years amounts to about thrice as much as the tuition for US citizens (A LOT). It's very possible that other state schools have similar restrictions on the number of funded international students they admit. By my count, I'd say OSU takes in at most 1 international student in a cohort of 18-20 (although I have heard that something like 10-20% of applicants are internationals). Hope this helps! Good luck For what it's worth, I'm in a Ph.D. program at a private university. My cohort consists of eight students: half of us came in straight from a B.A. and three of us are international. We are all fully funded under the same financial package. This may not be the rule, but it certainly isn't unprecedented.
Katla Posted December 2, 2015 Posted December 2, 2015 I'm in a Comp Lit programme, so it might be slightly different, but the three schools that actually considered admitting me were all public, two of them were offering full funding whereas one only offered for the first three years, which might have had something to do with my international status. I think half the people in my cohort are internationals all with full funding (assistantships not fellowships). I think it's not so much whether the school is private or public (though the private schools obviously hare more capable of covering your tuition) but how much the department/school seeks to have an international profile, in which case it's probably more likely to fund you even with the higher cost.
lyonessrampant Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 There are usually 1-3 people per cohort of 12 that are international students at my university, and we are all guaranteed the same basic funding package (some fellowships through the grad school or department or research centers can result in some earning more but everyone has access to the basic assistantship through teaching a 1:1 load for 6 years).
ExponentialDecay Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) The point isn't that internationals are offered less funding. The point is that the department has to spend more on the international student in order to offer them the same net funding as domestic students because they can't get discounted tuition and are not eligible for various national awards, which could offset the cost for the department. This situation creates a disincentive for admitting international students. Edited December 3, 2015 by ExponentialDecay
lyonessrampant Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 I don't think most people are making the point that international students are offered less funding, but actually funding packages are not always equal at all universities. At some places (according to my international student friends) international students are offered less funding to offset their higher cost to the department (and not just international students are affected by unequal program funding). Some universities respond to the higher cost by admitting no or few international students, as you and others on this thread note. Some respond by offering unequal funding. Some eat the extra cost and still offer everyone the same funding package. People are sharing that information as well as specific places that offer equal funding to the OP.
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