Cottagecheeseman

no its hell

Wait did no Talbot's get into Notre Dame this year?

It wasn't me. I think I'm going to go and cry for a while now. I will say though, it seems all of the other UVA admits all came by email, so who knows...

University of Virginia! Maybe if I say it enough times it will come true!

Which can be put in coffee to create awesomeness.

This is the calm before the storm. In two years we will SLAY. You'll get into Chicago or Columbia or something, and I'll get into USC or Princeton or something. And people are going to be like "HOWD YOU DO IT" and we'll be like:

I went to a fellow Virginia public university, and I've met some of the faculty. They were all nice and pleasant and really smart, plus I've heard good things from students there. Contact actual MA students if you want to know though. Don't forget though, Dr. Ott is leaving to UVA apparently, according to Leiter. Blacksburg and surrounding area is beautiful as well. I do want to say, however, that I was told by multiple members here and (informally and namelessly) from a faculty at VT that I shouldn't attend VT without funding. The chance of getting into a good phd from there isn't like at Tufts, and it's a lot of money to put into that. They all advised that if Tech was the only offer I got, without funding, I should try again next year. That being said, I don't know your position, so I'm not saying don't do it, but I'm saying doing a terminal MA that isn't Tufts without any funding isn't a good idea in philosophy. You might end up with a nearly worthless MA*, no further graduate school, and a lot of debt. *An MA in philosophy is only really good for two things. Getting further education in philosophy or related fields. Teaching community college. And with the job market so bad in philosophy, phd students are getting a lot of Community College full time positions, so that's tough as well.

Yeah, if Leuven is a respected school and it costs that much it sounds like a great option. Man, I wish analytic had continental European programs like that... The only problem I can think of is applying to US schools from that program with the language barrier, but I have no idea how that works. And you want to get a Phd at an American school if you want to teach in America. My understanding is that doctorate degrees from outside of the country aren't very well respected in any discipline, but I'm not sure why.

Who posted the most recent UVA waitlist? Did they just email you or is it an email you got a while back?

I had a dream the other night where I had memory in my dream of a dream I had months ago but in my waking life I had completely forgotten about. I dunno why but I find that supremely interesting. Also you didn't need to hint I know who you were talking about

Oh I was just assuming he was interested in Religion and stuff because he's doing Theology and whatnot.

There may be people who know, but colleges outside of the US/Canada/England aren't well known to the standard analytic philosophy people. Philosophy in general though, is notoriously competitive at the graduate level, but I don't know if that carries over to European schools. If your goal is to get a phd in theology but have philosophical backing, then I doubt a school like the one you mentioned wouldn't be a wrong choice, but it's a lot of time and money spent working on that. If you are catholic (as your picking of catholic school lends support for) there are some good catholic universities in America that offer philosophy programs that include a lot of medieval philosophy as well as philosophy of religion, like Fordham, St. Louis University, Catholic University of America. I'm not sure if these programs offer MA's, but if you're only after more philosophical training you could enroll as a non-degree seeking graduate student. Really, if you really want to move in a philosophical way rather than a theological way, there are many great terminal MA programs in the US that offer funding and don't require super strong backings in philosophy, like GSU, NIU, WMU, Miami Ohio. This is the way you should go if you want to attempt a Phd in philosophy at any reputable US/Canada/England department. This includes the catholic universities Phd programs I mentioned above. Like I said though, I can't really speak on European universities. I know at least one or two members here might be able to say something more.

Yeah didn't you say you'll buy my plane ticket and I could stay with you?

Yeah nobody knows you're just gonna have to wait with the rest of us. My guess is it's a fairly large waitlist.

A few people here have taken themselves off the waitlist/acceptances, but UVA hasn't done anything else yet. The lst contact I had said not to expect anything till closer to April 15th. Why are you on the waitlist?

Wait-list Hell right now:

I'm friends with someone who friends with someone whose dad is a major political figure in a foreign state, so lets get this going!!!

Typically it's like a 3.0 or a 3.5. My understanding is anything below a B+ in graduate school is pretty much an example of failing.

oops I've had my scholarships/loans go over the amount of tuition I had to pay, and got a refund from my school, and then used it to pay for books, gas, and what little was left over, beer.

I'm pretty sure Matt's right. It's not going to help you, and you'll have plenty of time afterwards to talk to faculty about whatever.

Google doesn't seem to help me with this question, and there doesn't seem to be a forum devoted to financial aid shit, but does anyone know if it's possible to get a student loan with a stipend/tuition remission. If I attended Florida, though I have funding/tuition, there are some fees I have to pay every year, plus the start up costs I'll incur from moving there, and I was hoping to take out a modest loan to help cover that. But I have no idea if you can still take out federal loans with stipend/tuition. Anyone know?

Honestly, I just know your Reddit username and name of the college you attend. Add me on facebook and I'll know your name

It wasn't very hard. Same with your name. Or what college you went too. Or your social security number.

I don't see anyone on that list outside of the old-dead people who I have read or see as major figures in philosophy. Which is good. We make fun of continentalists in America. Don't you know that by now? (I should note that this is in jest, and mostly a reference to Bar "dirty continentalist" Gambler's other posts elsewhere)