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I guess they can't quite know for sure, but they do have your transcript so they at least know what school you go to (if you have that listed on your FB).

I know a professor on the admissions committee at my school, and I doubt (s)he actually looks at applicant's social media cause (s)he just looks over the applications. If anything, i guess the secretaries or other people involved might look, but as far as professors that are not the committee, I don't think so. They literally get a stack of 150 so applicants and have like 1-2 weeks to 'grade' the applications for when they later have a discussion about who's in and who's out. Doubt they would spend extra time looking for FBs of every applicant... Now maybe once the pile is dwindled down to the top 50, maybe?

Well what are your topics? They might not be dumb. Independent studies are usually just literature reviews (you look up research on your topic and write a paper) and not really actually doing research, so you might want to see what he thinks you'll be doing. If you'd rather actually be doing research, maybe see if you can assist in his lab while you write the paper? Within those skills what are you most interested in... it can go lots of ways... awareness of social skills, awareness of what certain situations require etiquette- wise, ability to detect emotion. So generally, if its just the paper, you're writing on something that has some research already, but then you can criticize it and say if more stuff needs to be known, etc. So you might not need to know what skills need more research (if its just the paper).. I'd suggest looking at papers your professor has written, and look up names/papers of others that are listed on his research. See what his area of research is within social skills to get a better picture. That's not to say that if you find something more interesting you can't do it, he can still help but he might be more knowledgeable on his little area to show you were to look for papers.

She doesn't necessarily have to provide that. I mean, it may be helpful if her GPA or GREs are low, but otherwise we can just tell her places that accept post-baccs or places she can do pre-reqs. Here's your options: Do a second bachelors--- some people go this route, and that will end up being 6 years (4 years for bachelors , 2 years for Masters)... BUT There are some schools that are accelerated (meaning bachelors +masters in 5 years... The ones I know off the top of my head are Duquesne University, University of Rhode Island,University of Central Florida, and Calvin College... pretty much once you get in then you don't have to worry about applying to grad school cause you'll be there the whole time. Since you're international you might get some funding. Do a Post-bacc and then apply to Masters programs-- These don't guarantee that you get into a Masters but they give you the classes you need so you can apply to programs. Some programs that fit this are Portland State University, LaSalle university, University of Pittsburgh, Loyola University, Chapman University... many more if you search "SLP post bacc" ** Actually here is a site that lists a good amount... and some are ONLINE, so you can stay Bali, make money/work and do the prerequisites online and not have to worry about moving until getting into a grad program. http://www.scribd.com/doc/139339993/Post-Bacc-Courses-in-Speech-Language-Pathology Last option: Some schools accept Masters students without the prerequisites but then you take them the summer before classes start. I don't know of many, so maybe others can help... Massachusetts General Hospital Institute of Public Health might? Good luck!

I'd say 5-8 schools is a good amount. Don't do all reach schools. Think about if you have a certain population you're interested in. If you like the medical side of things.. make sure there are placements in hospitals or VAs close by (their website SHOULD list some placements students can have). Likewise, if you're interested in Autism or Voice, see if the school offers a certificate in that or has a clinic for that. See what things the professors teach. Somewhere on the website it might list classes (if not try to find their student handbook, they should be listed there) and compare what classes they each have.

I've had a horrible time with school SLPs as well. Try contacting your local hospital or children's hospital. See if they having something about volunteering or interning. You can check their volunteer page or SLP department page. I looked up the SLPs and emailed them, who then referred me to the volunteer person to get clearances done. But you can contact either. I'd suggest asking if you can shadow them for a day to see if you want to volunteer there. Then after your experience ask about volunteering more regularly.. You can even just volunteer for the hospital (doesn't have to be SLP ... they like seeing you have interests outside of SLP too). Try to do an independent study. You'll get to look into something that interests you with a professor's help. It usually has something to do with what the professor does, and you just look up articles and stuff and then either write a paper, make a poster or something along those lines. Find a club you enjoy-- like i said they like seeing you're just involved. Maybe join big brothers, big sisters... or a volunteer group (in something you are interested in... don't "force" it)... or just another group. If you're interested in business then maybe join a business club, if you like the enviro, then an enviro club. As for me, I've been an officer in the linguistics club, a member in the NSSLHA club and then I've just been volunteering at a children's hospital (in high school I worked at a daycare as well). I also do research with a professor, work in his lab and I am doing an undergraduate thesis with him (but that's cause I like research... so don't feel forced to do it. That's why I mentioned independent study so you can just write a paper but not go through the research process). Besides these I've also travelled to Spain. In my personal statement I mostly talked about the differences between spain and here and how we communicate and also mentioned how I saw a kid who had a neonatal stroke develop in my daycare. I think i wrote a couple sentences on doing research and stuff too. Basically just use what you got but don't just list everything you've done... that'll be done in the resume part of the application. I just focused on two or three nd how those shaped me, I didn't just list them! tl;dr... just find one or two things you REALLY enjoy and focus on those and use them in your application. Doesn't have to be in SLP, can be related.

I'd suggest looking at the results page on this forum. Just type in the school and "speech" and it'll show you results for people applied in past years and what they might've had scores-wise. ASHA's EdFind also lists (possibly outdated) scores info for each school.

Just a warning-- if you're doing any schools on CSDCAS the scores might not come in time for the Jan 15 deadline if you take it after finals. That doesn't mean it won't, but there's a chance. If you've already submitted your CSDCAS application for CSDCAS, then you can maybe just warn schools that another GRE score is coming so they look out for it, but for now they'll have the other score. If you're waiting til after you get the new scores in Dec to submit to CSDCAS... I wouldn't. I know my school wants it "verified" by Jan. 15 but that usually means submitting the application on CSDCAS by Dec 15 to give them time to go through your credentials and verify it before the Jan 15 date. But if the school only wants it "completed" by that date then you can wait a little longer.

I agree with the person above... Plus now you can take classes that may be more interesting to you but still related to the field... like in education, psych, linguistics. They all would look good. See if your school offers classes that would help you get licensure to work in the schools after you have your Masters (if your state requires teacher licensure to work in the schools, that is). Then you can take those classes before you're even in the Masters so you're already set.

Plus, that's just the "average" overall GPA... so some students get in with GPAs below that, although I'm sure they weigh the CSD gpa more heavily, so no worries. If you have certain schools in mind check their website too, as ASHA isn't always uptodate with that... sometimes their websites aren't either, so its even better to go the top of this page and click on "results search" and then type in your school and SLP (ex. UCLA SLP or Temple SLP) tog et recent results from last years application crowd to give you an idea of who got in and who didn't. Some post their GPA in the comments section, or under the column where it says if that person was accepted/rejected there is sometimes a red diamond--- hover over it and it will tell you their GPS and GRE scores. That will give you a better understanding of those accepted into that school... (Take it with a grain of salt though, as they don't mention their extracurriculars, and so some with 3.5 GPA and slightly above average GREs got into a school but then a person with 3.8 and average GRE didn't... so we don't know the deciding factors there)

Yes-- definitely guess if you don't know! Don't wait to guess til the end though, just incase you run out of time, its better to have an answer and be possibly right than o answer at all. So after a minute make an educated guess and mark the question then move on... if you have time at the end then go back to the ones your marked/guessed on. Sometimes going on and coming back helps you think about the question better as well. Just go over the simple math rules the day before to help math go more quickly-- like divisibility rules (ie. add up the digits, if the sum is divisible by 3 then the whole number is... like 345 3+4+5= 12 and 12 is divisible by 3 so that means 345 is as well.), know the squares of 1-13, pythagorean theorem, prime numbers from like 2-19 (2 is the lowest prime # and the only even prime #)... stuff like that. I'm sure if you search like "GRE math cheat sheet" or something you'll find these all listed. Although you can do it on the calculator, if you know it off the top of your head it makes it even quicker. Like hter person said above, just be calm and do it question by question. If you didn't know the one before just forget about and and focus on the one you have now. You can always go back and you might know how to do ones later on... so don't waste time on one question. I'd say give 2 min max for a question, even less.

I would think that since you kept the 2.0 and didn't get suspended that no academic disciplinary action was taken. To make sure, I'd contact your academic advisor or the admissions/financial aid office.

A general ruleof thumb for GRE id 50%tile in math and verbal and about 4+ on the writing so you're good on that. the best thing to do is go to the school's website and see if they list average stats... you can also go to the top of this page and click on "Results Search" and then type in the name of a school and Speech (ex. Temple Speech or UCLA Speech) and it will give you results from last year and people will list if they got in or not... then under the column where it says if the person is accepted/rejected there might be a red diamond... just hover over it and it will say their stats to give you an idea. (Someitmes ppl post their stats in the comment section to the right of their entry too)

I'm not sure about AP classes, but I went with the abbreviations, although my application was for the school I'm currently attending so they knew what most meant. With that said, the entire title of the course you used as an example probably won't fit in the space they provide. You can maybe alter it so its more understandable, I think I did that for one class and CSDCAS people still took it.

I called about a similar question. From what I understood, you can't edit a pre-existing essay, but you can add a new essay to a school. Although I'm not sure if that includes schools that were in your application the first time applying or if they have to be new after already submitting your application, if that makes sense... Basically one of my schools required submitting the CSDCAS application this past week and should give decisions by this week (early admissions for undergrads, but nothing guaranteed). So in the case I don't make it in I still have time for the regular season. I only had that school on the CSDCAS system when I submitted the application to CSDCAS. I called CSDCAS and they said the only revisions you can make after submitting are adding new schools and adding new essays (possibly to already existing schools as well?).

Always take them for credit-- I talked to my advisor about even doing pass/fail for physics and she said no because you might be able to do it now, but some grad programs won't accept it and ASHA most likely won't access it for licensure. :/

Yes working on the side is great, but you have to watch out for ethics. You generally don't want to take your own students from school (unless your school allows it). You can always have people refer their patients to you so that it takes away the conflict of interest, but still check with you school to serif they allow it. You can always take up PRN work at a hospital or do teletherapy. If you do do private therapy most suggest getting liability insurance to cover yourself... I'm not trying to deter anyone away form this, just saying what I've read in other forums! I do agree with being able to carve out your own niche and such. We've heard several times in our classes how there's few SLP PhD students so you'd have a decent shot at getting in deepening on what your ideas are. There's always university jobs available it seems too.

Great, thanks!

Hey everyone Are we allowed to e-submit the CSDCAS app before our letters of recommendation are in? Or do you have to wait until they are all in before you e-submit it (and thus cannot change anything anymore)? Thanks!

Last thing-- both fields are good but have an influx of applicants. I think my roommates that were nurses said there's almost too many nurses with BSNs (but don't count me on that completely), whereas SLP has lots of applicants but not enough spots, so once you get in you're golden cause there's a decent amount of jobs nationwide and in a variety of settings. Of course, if you're like me an always looking at jobs to get an idea of where they are and what not, then you can look on job sites for both SLP and nursing jobs in your area to see if there are some close. With SLP there's also the rising concept of tele practice, and there's several staffing companies that provide that so you can pick up extra money or do all tele practice.

Which state are you in? You can also look into online programs, although those usually require you finding your own clinical placements. Also, most are good for timing about accepting and beginning, but be aware that NOVA Southeastern's program usually has a 2 year time period of sending in items and hearing back for an acceptance and starting. The rest usually let you know that application period. I think several online programs begin in summer, spring or fall. Pay depends on where you are and what setting you work in. Some areas you begin in the 40's while others you begin in the 60's. So I'd go to ASHA (American Speech-Language Hearing Assoc.) and find their salary listings. It's fairly detailed about region of the country, vs setting. Schools tend to give worse pay. You'll have to take pre-reqs before beginning... check the schools you're interested in to see if they allow for post-baccs or have a leveling semester/year. Some programs just have you do all the pre-reqs in the summer before classes. Others might have a leveling year/ post-bacc year... If this is the case check to see if this leads to automatic enrollment into their Masters program. Not all do that, in which case you'll have to apply to that program and others to actually get into a Master's program. You can maybe start now just doing them part time if you're not applying this application cycle. Go to ASHA's page for the list of pre-reqs (or your prospective school might list them too, but ASHA's is more thorough-- like only Physics counts of physical science, etc. some pre-reqs can only be taken at schools with a Communication Sci. and Disorders (CSD)/ speech pathology program.... like intro to SLP, speech science, etc. Working in the schools will give you both good schedules for the kids so you'll be home weekends/afternoons/holidays/summer. This can let you maybe work PRN in a hospital or clinic in the summer for extra money, or during extended school year in the summer too. Jobs in the other settings have fairly good hours too, but you won't have summers off. This doesn't matter as much now though, as you may change your mind during grad school, lots of people do. They'll love kids and then halfway through have a placement with adults and love that. So you'll see where you end up going. One thing-- I slightly mentioned this before, but during grad school you might have limited time between classes, schoolwork and the clinical placements. So if you're planning on having kids, I would wait until afterwards (but if you already have kids or really want them now, it's still do-able, especially since you're not the one carrying it.) One thing about nursing-- there's odd hours. Most shifts are 8 or 12 hours, I think 12 hours are usually 3-4 days a week and then 8 is spread across 4? But keep this in mind for the future when you may want to be awake and spend time with family. You might have evening or night shifts and thus sleep during the day the next day, so pretty much losing two days for a night 12 hour shift. Of course, you can maybe find a job that just has day shifts, but then thats typically 7-7 or 9-9, so you're still gone most of the day, but still have several days off the rest of the week and have a regular sleeping schedule. Just like with SLP you can specialize too, like with pediatric nursing, cardiology nursing, emergency... (Since you were once a journalism major you might've research SLP quite a bit already, but in case you haven't, you can specialize in quite a bit with SLP... neurogenic disorders, stuttering, swallowing (yes we do that), child language, aphasia, motor disorders...) Also, so if you opt for a program that has a leveling year or just do a post-bacc year, then that'll be 3 years (leveling + 2 year masters)... buuuut you aren't certified yet. You then have to do a mandatory internship year (~9 months) called the "clinical fellowship year"and then you can apply for your license to be certified. This is a paid year though!

I don't think it's really that possible to do a PhD in three years including your Masters, as PhDs usually require a student to take other classes as well... not to mention thats research on top of classes (which is still do-able but takes up lots of time). I think most PhDs take and extra 2-3 years after your Masters, but that also depends on your study and how long it might take to gather data. It's worth it if you want to do research or be a professor... there's an extreme shortage of SLP PhD students (and people with them in our field), so it might be fairly easy to get in as long as you have a decent topic that matches a professor's interests. There's definitely plenty of faculty openings nation wide. As for doing it to get a pay raise, not sure about that... I would look at prospective schools and see what their average length is when looking at their curriculum and such. Some have a MA-to-PhD track, but I don't think I've heard of them being 3 years total. If there's a school you really like but they don't have that track but do offer both a MA and PhD you can email them about your interests and see if they will let you do a combined thing.

If you want to still be working for the US while abroad, then consider looking at military bases working as a civilian. Most jobs at in the schools of military bases, but some can be in clinics as well. Usually the DoDEA lists jobs on usajobs.gov ... sometimes you can find things through the different branches as well. I know some people that are on the 'lists' and get contacted every so often about new opportunities and they can decide to decline or accept them. Other options are the mutual agreements with Canada, UK, Ireland, New Zealand, Australia... I think some say Australia and Canada have good prospects, but the UK/Ireland barely have jobs for even their own SLPs. You can also try working for international schools. This might be more difficult to find jobs, but it's worth a shot. If you have a specific country in mind try to find international schools and see if you can send an application or if they even have SLPs already (this option might mean you need to buy tests and supplies though). Also, I highly recumbent going to ASHA's find a professional page... there's an option to search for other countries. Then you can find ASHA certified people in those countries and try to contact them (or even Google them... some have websites). They can then give you tips on working abroad. If you're bilingual then you of course have more options and can work in clinics or hospitals in those countries too. If not... then probably just schools (unless there is a big expat population that might need a private clinic for English. You can also try finding the respected country's speech pathology organization website... or find Facebook groups with professionals to ask if they think there's a need for an English SLP in X area, and to see about conferences and such around there too. I've done this for Spain... searching for 'logopedia' and 'logopeda' (speech-language pathology and speech pathologist in Spanish) and found several groups. You can also see if there are expat groups on the web or on FB. Some websites list english-speaking therapists or people searching for therapists... and you can also use these to ask people if they think there's a need for a SLP in that area.

There's also the option of an independent study, rather than regular volunteering in the lab. It'd be a "class" but the professor usually just has you research and write a paper on a certain topic in the area that they study and maybe come in for an hour a week to discuss stuff. It does vary from professor to professor, but it's usually something like that.

Maybe it varies from school to school, but I don't think mine care. I think if they ask then just mention that it was due to working too many hours but you have fixed that now and would love to gain more research experience... It's also good if you read some of their research so that you can mention it or discuss it. Maybe they did a study that interested you or something. I wouldn't e-mail every professor... only e-mail maybe two that taught a class you found interesting. keep it short and sweet, just saying "Dear Dr. X, This is Jane Doe. I was in your [ name of class] and found it very interesting. I was wondering if you had an opening in your lab, or if I could participate in lab meetings to gain more experience in [whatever they research]. Thank you." Or if you have read some of their research, then say you would like to meet to talk about their research or ask something about it... then when you're there ask if there is a way you can volunteer or attend lab meetings.