rococo_realism
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8 hours ago, PoliticalOrder said:
What's the difference?
I believe what @telkanuru is saying is that, because three meals a day is arbitrary, merely omitting one from your diet is simply changing the amount of meals you have a day. If you normally eat three meals a day, but decide not to eat, say, lunch one day, that's skipping.
He said he's being persnickety about it.
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I think a gap year or two is a good idea; that's what I did.
Wisconsin is a great program with some great faculty members. (They really have almost all bases covered, chronologically and geographically speaking.) However, the university is kind of going through it apropos to its budget. (If you're not familiar, Google it.) And I'm not sure if they fund their MA students anymore; I'd check with the students. And I think that Boston only funds its doctoral students. Notre Dame, from what I've heard, may freeze their MA program, and I don't think anyone there works in your area.
I've heard nothing but good things about UMass. They have an East Asian specialist, Christine Ho, but I think that she specializes in Chinese art. But it is a fully-funded program, and you'd have the opportunity to take classes at any of the other colleges part of the Five Colleges Consortium. I'd reach out to them anyway. And equestrian19 listed some more good programs to consider.
Good luck!
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@runjackrun Not apologies necessary; thank you for going in-depth about those neighborhoods!
I'll be taking you up on that PM at some point.
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Anyone have advice on where to live? I feel that Minneapolis, in general, is a bit...sketchy. I've even heard of neighborhoods like Uptown as being a bit dangerous lately. All of the lovelier neighborhoods seem too far away or too pricey. My stipend is fairly generous, I think, so I have a nice amount to work with. I dunno...I'm pretty stressed about the move, honestly.
Would the west side of St. Paul be an alternative? Or do any grad students live in, say, the St. Louis Park area west of the lakes?
Maybe I should just get a car and live further out. Le sigh.
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On 4/14/2016 at 7:12 AM, Sajid said:
@katpillow , @Citizen of Night Vale What about areas north/west of evanston? Skokie, Wilmette, Winnetka etc ?(these seem to be connected to evanston by metra, wonder how that compares with the 'L' ; everybody only seems to be giving advice on living south of NU, was wondering how the north would be like)
Everything from Wilmette to Lake Bluff is made up of affluent, primarily single-family houses where properties of $1,000,000 are considered normal. (Though you might find the occasional apartment.) Unless you're independently wealthy, you're better off in Evanston/Rogers Park.
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ETA: I want to add a caveat that I am not a current Notre Dame student or alumnus/a; I'm but a mere, mortal townie who's leaving in the fall.
Michiana (the greater region in which Notre Dame is located) tends to be fairly...sleepy. Yes, Chicago is about 1.5 hours away, but in the immediate area, you have to really hunt for exciting stuff to do. I've lived here for most of my life, and I think that I'm lucky that I'm kind of an introvert who doesn't need a lot of nightlife, because it's hard to find here. The only time the area has much hustle and bustle is during, of course, football season (which is actually pleasantly festive), and First Fridays (https://downtownsouthbend.com/downtown-south-bend-first-fridays ). And I agree with @dumeigui that there really are some hidden gems in the form of local cuisine, and the art scene--while still small--is growing, though we really only have two museums. (Both of them great.)
I get the sense that, based on the graduate students I've met, many graduate students probably entertain themselves in low-key ways, like gathering at someone's house for dinner, etc. They're (and we all are/were/will be) quite busy, anyway!
If anyone is interested in learning more about life from a townie's perspective, feel free to PM!
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@unanachronism I'm simply having a hard time deciding if I simply want to get an M.A., work for a while, and, maybe, get a Ph.D., or just go into a Ph.D. program now. I'm not really soliciting advice; I'm just whining, lol. Just seeking commiseration.
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Has anyone else made a decision about where s/he's going? I'm kind of having a hard time with making a decision, and decision day is looming on the horizon!
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4 hours ago, Effloresce said:
i went to amherst college for undergrad and got around without a car.
the bus system is pretty okay from what i've experienced, so it's easy to get around via that but I imagine as a grad student you'd be doing more cooking/running for groceries etc than I did (since I was on a meal plan), and that might be annoying. in regards to supermarkets though, there's a stop and shop, target (with groceries), and trader joes along the bus route and about 10ish minutes away from the UMass campus. it's not awful to travel with groceries on the public transportation either as long as you time things nicely to avoid the rush of undergrads.
you can go straight to NoHo via bus too..takes about 30-40 minutes, so it's really nice if you want to go somewhere else for food, bars, etc.
Thanks!
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How is it living without a car in Amherst? I might live on campus the first year if I go, but after that, I'll probably move into an apartment. I'm sure that this has been answered, but I want a fresh perspective.
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@bosie_dearestCongrats!
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8 hours ago, m-artman said:
I'm the BU admit! Thanks for the well wishes.
@rococo_realism I chose to apply to schools in Boston over NYC for the same reason. I thought it was at least a tiny bit more affordable in Boston.
@lasirko Best of luck with BU! Mine was just a good research connection with my POI. My GRE's weren't exactly stellar, but otherwise everything just fell into place. I was honestly a bit surprised. I expected to be sent to MA program without any funding. Best of luck to you!!
Well, again, congratulations! I definitely steered clear of NYC.
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22 hours ago, marie_ret said:
Hi Hi - I was the CUNY admit - I received an email from Prof. Koussser (who is not who I applied to work with FYI). Sorry to be weird, but I don't want to publicly broadcast a lot of info - feel free to DM me if you have questions!
Totally not being weird! I'm the same way, which is why I may not even mention any of the particular schools I applied to until after April.
1 hour ago, feelthebern16 said:Wonder if anyone has had communications with any schools regarding decision times or stuff like that. Quiet group this year!
I've heard from only two of my schools thus far. Happily, they're acceptances (and one with full funding!), but I'm super anxious about the other four schools!
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To send official transcripts, you'll need to go through your previous university. That is, it has to send the official transcript directly to UC Irvine.
ETA: Ah, I just realized that you said that the department didn't need the official one just yet. That is strange. Perhaps they've made up their minds (!) and need official confirmation now?
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Alrighty, so I have all six of my apps signed, sealed, and delivered. So relieved, but now I'm just bloody nervous!
I hope everyone else has made/is making headway!
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I'd go for the art history paper over the English one.They're going to want to see your research skills. My own writing sample is only slightly related to my proposed topic, but it's still art history. Basically, it should be your best writing, but you also want to show that you can do extensive research, analyze images, and situate those image in some historical period(s).
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I happened to have the same issue as you, robertmck. My B.A. is in English, and I minored in Art History. Earlier this year, I was going to study rhet/comp (like you were going to study mathematics), but I realized that I was quite charmed/transfixed by my art historical interests (listed on my profile) more than I was in my English ones. (And I'm interested in museum and non-profit work, not in teaching, necessarily.) When I decided to apply to AH programs, I was told, unequivocally, that I needed at least two of my letters to come from art historians. Luckily, I had gotten to know the art historians on my campus fairly well, and a couple have agreed to write letters. People in your eventual discipline are just better at assessing your readiness for graduate-level coursework in your respective discipline.
Definitely do ask those other professors. Their letters will be very important. And I agree with ExponentialDecay; it is strange that you were turned down when there's still about two months--give or take--to get things together. Perhaps they think you're being flip about this?
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ashiepoo's description is very accurate, in my experience.
Another obvious but socially-significant aspect is the duration. When I was an MA student, two years felt like a lot of time. But now that I'm in a PhD program, the MA students seem like short-timers, barely skimming the surface of our field. They also don't get as involved in the workings of our department, because they aren't spending a huge chunk of their life attached to the place.
I made good friends with the MA students who arrived in my year. Then they left, and the new batches arrived. MA students outnumber PhD students by far -- and there are just so many coming & going all the time. As years pass I feel like a wise old tree, collecting rings while MA-saplings are felled all around me.
Oh, that simile at the end is awesome!
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Yes, what theartman1193 said. But if you're hellbent on getting it to AH standards immediately, you can look at art historians' profiles on Academia.edu to get ideas. You don't need to be a member of the site to look at peoples' profiles.
And for what it's worth, here's the CAA standards and guidelines page: http://www.collegeart.org/guidelines/arthistcv.html
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my_muse, I believe that ponzi scheme, here, is merely supposed to be a synonym for "scam." Though, a ponzi scheme isn't exactly analogous to what's being discussed, of course.
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Hello, all! There's no thread going for those of us in the Fall 2016 cohort, so I thought that I'd get the ball rolling.
I'm an Americanist, and I'm applying to 5-6 programs, mostly Ph.D. I tend to take a sociological bent in my analysis, and, because I majored in English as an undergrad, I also like to incorporate critical and literary theory.
Care to share, anyone?
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Uh, Williams is in the NE! And I wouldn't discount it out of hand, because, as has been mentioned, they do offer some funding. I'm afraid you'll have a hard time finding programs that will let you enroll in an MA program and, then, if you feel like it, continue to the PhD; some of the less prestigious programs require you earn an MA first and then require you to apply to the PhD program after. That might be one route--though I'm not sure how competitive it is. Make sure you think long and hard about why you want an MA and what you hope to do with it. If you're not totally committed and highly talented, you shouldn't even be considered a PhD for all the reasons you can read about in the chronicle of higher ed, etc.
Yeah...I totally didn't read over that before I wrote it--my gaffe! It's as New England-y as it gets! I think I was just mentioning my (ideal) geographic parameters as an aside.
I'm plenty committed to this. I suppose that I'm a bit insecure about the fact that my undergraduate degree isn't in Art History. It just seems like a foundational MA would be good for me before deciding, through and through, that I want to pursue the Ph.D immediately. (Though the Ph.D. has been THE goal.) Self-doubt is awful in situations like these.
Trust me, though, I'm not being flippant about this.
My understanding is that Williams and Tufts are considered the most prestigious terminal MA programs in the U.S. They both have funding available for top candidates. Delaware is pretty good, too (esp. for material culture, where it is considered the best), as are some of the other programs listed above. You can also consider going abroad for the MA (I have met lots of successful people from the Courtauld, which is only 1 year long and so is a $$ saver). One thing that my various advisors have always stressed to me is that one shouldn't do a terminal MA without funding - most of the time you are just helping to fund the department's doctoral students, and those programs are generally held in lower regard, even if they are part of otherwise prestigious institutions. No to poopoo those who can afford it/have gone that route, but if you don't have independent means it isn't worth it, IMO, to go deep into debt just so you can get a low-paying museum job or get paid ~$20k/year as a PhD. student. Perhaps better to gain more work, research, or language experience and try to go straight for the PhD. I did that and it has worked out great, though of course there are multiple paths to success. Just a word to the wise/my 2 cents.
Oh, trust, I've been through all of that: if there's no funding, I'm not going anywhere! That's why I've been trying to locate schools that fund M.A.s with no strings attached.
I would imagine that getting an MA from a program which typically does not offer MA and then applying for PhD would make the prospective PhD committee think twice and see you as non committed or having issues with previous school. At the same time, getting away with an MA or MPhil from a program which usually offers PhD in order to leave the academia should not be a problem at any uni. People leave for a variety of reasons and unis will probably be "OK" with you not finishing although funding conditions might change.
Therefore: imo it s better to apply to programs where a terminal MA is explicitly offered. Such programs are available in the UK and Canada and hey, if you do it in Germany, how cool is that! Aim high so that you can apply ever higher for PhD.
The main issue with applying for PhD in you state of mind is that you are currently clearly not committed enough to work as hard as it gets to do an awesome PhD application. Desire to do it is important.
Yes, definitely. An old professor who's been advising me mentioned this, and while the professor does support my endeavor of finding M.A. programs, this professor has also told me to focus on Ph.D. programs first. I'm just soliciting advice from those of you who know about any funded M.A. programs.
Have you thought of Canadian schools?
Most good schools here offer terminal MA's. I can speak for Toronto's program, which is both methodologically challenging and in recent years geographically diverse as well. Sadly, Toronto does not offer scholarships to international students (but at $16,500 for a one year M.A. it is considerably cheaper than schools like Williams, not to mention the kind of international exposure it gives you). There are OGS (Ontario Graduate Scholarship) and SSHRC (Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council) grants but the latter is open only to Canadians, the OGS, on the other hand, is open to international students as well.
Here's a list of some terminal M.A. programs in Canada (most have some form of funding available for students either as entering fellowships or TA/RA positions):
University of Toronto, Department of Fine Art, Toronto, ON
McGill University, Department of Art History and Communications Studies, Montreal, QC
University of British Columbia, Department of Art History and Visual Art, Vancouver, BC (an interesting Alumni profile page exists as well)
University of Victoria, Department of Art History & Visual Studies, Victoria, BC
Queen's University, Department of Art History & Art Conservation, Kingston, ON (least diverse of the six, no faculty specializing in non-western areas, such as East Asian, South/east Asian, or Islamic art)
University of Montreal, Department d'histoire de l'art et d'etudes cinematographiques, Montreal, QC (French)
There are other programs at Concordia, Carleton, Alberta, and York, but they're fairly provincial and as international students that might not be the best environment.
Yes! I'm definitely considering Canadian schools.
Thank you for that information and that list; it'll be very helpful this summer!
Thank you all for your advice--you all sound like my advisor! (Because I've spoken to with that advisor recently since I last posted here.)
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Hey, thanks! I'm already looking into UMass-Amherst, but I had no idea that UW-Madison's AH department was okay with students looking to get the M.A. as a stepping stone the the Ph.D. at a later time. I considered asking my POI from there, but I got worried that the person wouldn't take me seriously.
Williams is a bit rich for my blood, and, as it stands right now, I'm only looking at schools in the NE and Midwest. (And Canada, too.)
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Choose *funded* programs, like UMass, Case Western (I believe), Tufts, Iowa (I believe), Williams, etc. Really, don't take out loans for this degree.