riverstyx
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Well, I read the rest of the thread and Ian points out that CUNY has a history of taking several days to send out all the acceptances and waitlists (and rejections). I'm not sure why that would be the case if they're just being emailed out, but it seems consistent with no one posting -- with many of the other acceptances, I've witnessed a flurry of posts within a few minutes or hours of each other. So there's still hope as of yet.
Maybe you're right. But the silence from CUNY about my application is consistent with the string of rejections I personally received so far. I think what you say may have validity for the other posters on here. But I imagine in my particular case, I am rejected, or waitlisted if I'm really really lucky. I haven't heard from Wisconsin either, but I can't imagine I'll have a chance there. They sent out acceptances, waitlists, and *a few* rejections. But like you said, some schools like CUNY just spread their notices out. I imagine I will hear from both Wisconsin and CUNY over the next 2-3 weeks. But I appreciate the optimistic and hopeful tone of your post. I received a master's degree from CUNY in philospohy myself a couple of years ago, but apparently my good performance there doesn't count for much in the final analysis.
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That was me, to confirm. Email was sent at 1:32 PM EST, so I'm not sure what to make of the fact that other notifications aren't posted as of yet. Given that I didn't receive it until much later, I would have thought others would have beaten me to it.
Thanks for posting the details and congratulations to you. Maybe you were the only one on here among those waiting for CUNY notices who actually got accepted. Maybe everyone else is waitlisted or denied. If you received a notice at 1:32pm EST that means a long time has elapsed for other acceptances to go out. But as Ian Faircloud pointed out, far fewer people are using the gradcafe forums this year than last, so maybe that's a factor here. Who knows. But I see that some people who post acceptances occasionally do so several days after actually receiving them. So it's possible that other posters have received acceptances but are just late about posting them to the forum. Who knows. One of my professors said he "knows someone" at Miami, where I'm waitlisted, and he will "put in a good word for me." As if that is likely to matter....
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So I just saw that someone posted an acceptance from CUNY today. I guess that means that all acceptances are going out right now, or at least, to the top applicants. The only hope now is probably a waitlist.
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Has anyone had NO news from Wisconsin? (I haven't.)
I haven't heard a thing from wisconsin
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The CUNY situation is a mystery. CUNY typically admits people beginning around Feb 20 to Mar 1. There's a pattern of admitting people over the course of many days. I can't find precedent for the rejections coming first. This year is an odd year, though. For some reason, people aren't using Grad Cafe as much as previous years. This forum, e.g., is not as busy as the last few years. One friend of mind speculated that there's a culture change in graduate philosophy admissions, one of avoidance of Grad Cafe. Why does any of this matter? Well, I wonder whether a few people were admitted to CUNY and didn't post. CUNY does occasionally admit quite a few people weeks after the initial offers. (See, e.g., 2010.) CUNY has sent wait-lists very late. (See, e.g., 2014.) Near as I can tell, CUNY's approach is heterodox among grad programs.
I have a friend at CUNY, but it's been a year or more since I last spoke with her. Does anyone have a CUNY connection?
If you applied and have not been rejected, there's reason to be optimistic. CUNY does typically send a bunch of rejections at once. From what I can see, CUNY admits or wait-lists most of the others.
Thanks Ian. I wonder if some were admitted already too. Although it would be unusual not to post, since it seems most people are generally more eager, willing, and enthusiastic to post acceptances and waitlists rather than rejections. Only time will tell, I suppose.
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Arghh, I wasn't thinking clearly. Yes, Hcarp's suggestion is probably right. The Grad Admissions Office is probably not familiar with when the department will release results. In fact, the office may give everyone the same, generic response: "We will release decisions in a few weeks." That's very standard. The philosophy admissions committee knows when the decisions will be released. I'll be shocked if we don't hear from the philosophy department sooner than two weeks from now. We really should have already heard. If I were forced to pick a date, I would pick tomorrow. Note that every well-known philosophy department released results by March 10 last year. That's roughly a week from this coming Monday.
Sorry to change the subject....what do you think is going on with CUNY Ian? From a historical perspective, it's unusual for them to release rejections before acceptances and waitlists. Maybe there are more rejections in store. But then again, CUNY usually released on the last Friday in February last year, exactly as predicted. I imagine they will do the same this year.
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I haven't received a rejection either. I think I've seen at least 8-10 people who haven't. So chances are the posted rejections were just the first batch...... More...will...come.....
And now someone posted a rejection by Stanford. Damn, these programs keep giving us hope.
Maybe most of the 8-10 people who didn't receive a rejection yet are either on the acceptance list or waitlist? It is possible. I've heard that CUNY admits around 15-20 people in its first batch of acceptances, and then waitlists several more. So who knows.
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I'm wondering how many people have *not* received rejections from CUNY yet. I figure if more than 8-10 people have not, then it's safe to say they probably have not released all their rejections yet. I, for one have not received a rejection. Neither has my friend who has applied.
I haven't received a rejection either. I think CUNY will release acceptances on Friday, the 27th. But still, only three rejections were posted yesterday. So I imagine they still have quite a few more to send out, either today, or during the coming week, imo.
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Congrats, all!
Accepted to Madison.
A: Madison, Toronto, Penn, UCSD, Arizona
W: Chapel Hill
R: Duke, Brown, and probably a bunch of other ones unofficially
Congratulations to you! Are you in England, or the Continent? It says that it was added tomorrow, February 26th (I'm on the East Coast in America).
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Well... yeah. Rejecting applicants as they determine who is the best fit for their program/who they most like/what have you. Perhaps I should say, Notify all the people you know you're not going to accept when you know that you're not going to accept them.
The predictions for CUNY were spot-on last year, and I think CUNY will come out with acceptances on Friday just like they're predicting this year. So probably more CUNY rejections tomorrow, and then acceptances on Friday, and waitlists over the the next one or two weeks.
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It is odd for them, but some schools (notably WUSTL) use this procedure every year. My understanding is that it's often used when a school decides on a group of applicants to either accept or waitlist, rejecting everyone else before settling on who gets accepted and who gets waitlisted. It's hard to say, though, without a pattern of them using this procedure year after year.
I talked about this with one of my profs and the procedure makes sense. Notify all the people you know you're not going to accept, so they know while you continue deliberating on who is the best.
Maybe, but let's not forget that some schools release their rejections in waves, too. It may be that CUNY is going to release their rejections over the next few days, and not just today, and then they will release their acceptances and finally waitlists. University of Virginia released acceptances and waitlists, and then rejections over a several-day period this year, so there is precedent for this. So just because someone (like me) didn't hear a rejection from CUNY today, doesn't mean s/he won't hear a rejection over the next week as they deliberate and narrow down their pool of acceptances and waitlists.
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Why would CUNY post rejections before giving out acceptances and wait lists? It doesn't make sense....
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Thanks everyone, I feel somewhat better now. I will keep my hopes up about Miami and also hope for the best with the remaining schools. Good luck to everyone!
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Riverstyx: don't worry too much yet. A lot of the admissions process for many schools has to do with the AOS of the students, not just the perceived quality. Some of the smartest graduates I have met from any school got rejected at plenty of places, just because the departments "didn't need another student working on x".
Don't get discouraged! You knew coming in that this was going to be a shitty ordeal, and that rejections don't mean anything about you as a student, an applicant, a person, etc. There are two reasons that immediately come to mind as to why UVA passed on you. One, of course, is fit. Even if you are very very good, if you aren't interested in something that they want to do, or if someone very very VERY good already got an offer from them in your AOS, then maybe you just were screwed out of it by unfortunate chance. Alternatively, maybe Virginia realised that you were such a good applicant that you would undoubtedly get offers from top schools and ultimately reject their offer, so they decided to save themselves the heartbreak of thinking you might go there just to have you go somewhere else. So, a rejection DOES NOT mean you are bad, or worse, or any such rubbish as that. Be confident and don't give up!
I will try to keep a positive or at least realistic spin on things. But everything is just either neutral or disappointing news. Miami made it sounds like I was at or near the very top of the waitlist there. But then they admit somebody off of the waitlist a few days ago. So obviously some of the admittances at Miami must be turning down their offers already. Either the Miami waitlist admittance was a fake, or I'm not as high on the waitlist as I first thought. Either way, it is confusing and extremely disappointing. Has anybody been rejected from lesser-ranked schools and got in at more top-tier schools? What do you make of that?
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I just received word of my rejection from UVA. This is really so very depressing. I had a mediocre application last year, and I was waitlisted. This year, I have a much better application, and I was flat-out rejected. This is not a good sign. I've applied and been rejected at all the schools I applied to a few times before, and I don't think I have the stamina to go through this ever again. Realistically I have five schools I am waiting on, and two of those already started sending out acceptances: University of British Columbia and University of Western Ontario. My application credentials arrived a little late due to customs inspection in Canada, but they were very forgiving. I saw that UBC released an acceptance the other day about 10 days after releasing its first few, so I'm keeping my hopes up. The graduate secretary there was very insistent that I get my official transcripts in to her, so who knows, maybe they're interested in my application. She said I would hear my decision when it's available and that that would likely be before the end of March (the UBC philosophy website says decisions go out by the end of March, too).
I have a waitlist from Miami, and the person who emailed it to me said my application was "very strong" and that I am one of the ones they would "love" to admit. He said they've gone to the waitlist every year for the past several years and anticipate doing so again this year. Sounds like I'm near the top of the waitlist, right? But the other day someone posted an acceptance to Miami off of the waitlist. I emailed the admissions contact to see if there was any movement on my application, and he said that these things go until close to April 15th because most people decide last minute. I'm not an overly anxious person and so this is hardly consuming my life. But I do get discouraged easily. And this is very discouraging. The fact that I didn't get into UVA is a bad sign. I don't know why they rejected me, but if this is indicative of the way things are going to go, it will be a very hard application season for me.
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For what it's worth, one of my UNC professors (who has sat on admissions boards for a very long time) told me that it is very common for schools to decide upon and release acceptances in rounds, so not all at the same time. He didn't say what the spacing between those rounds normally was, and I really don't if there is a point at which enough time has passed since an initial acceptance (or set of acceptances) at which one can certainly conclude that they have not been accepted. However, it would not surprise me if that time frame was large if existent at all (of course, if April 15 comes and you haven't heard back then that is bad news, but that is another matter). You seem to me to be right- there is A LOT of speculating on this forum. I wouldn't let that scare you too much. At any rate, if you are not successful this time around, that needn't be the end of the road for you. If you still want to pursue this goal, take the year off, re- work your sample or write another one, and this time try to get help from faculty. It is also not too late to apply to some MA programs (GSU, for instance) and that may be of help for you.
So does it follow that among the schools that release acceptances in rounds, they might release the first batch of acceptances, then waitlists, then rejections, and then somewhere in between or after all of that release their subsequent rounds of acceptances?
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I think the way it probably works with University of Virginia is this: they send out acceptances, then they send out their *initial* batch of waitlists. *Then* they send out the rejections for the people they are definitely not going to accept, no matter what. Then, based on how things go with their initial round of acceptances and waitlists, they keep a few people "on hold" to be put on the waitlist, in case their initial waitlist is too short or they have space for even more applicants to be considered.
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Riverstyx, I am in the same situation. When I log in to my application, it is the same. I do not know what this means either! I am hoping not a rejection but am also preparing myself for that possibility. Maybe they haven't sent out all of the rejections yet?
I tend to think a little optimistically and hope it means a waitlist. But I don't really have anything to go on either. I mean, if they haven't sent out all rejections yet it must mean they are still considering some applications. Like the other person said, last year UVA's acceptances were all over the place as far as dates were concerned. Maybe one of us should call and inquire about the status of our application and whether a decision has been made. I called last week and they said they would pass the message on to the graduate admissions professor, but she never got back to me. So I don't think I can call again. I really think that if we were accepted we would've received an email from the department stating that, so I personally cannot imagine that we've been accepted and that they just "forgot" to tell us. If we were accepted we would've heard from either the department or the graduate school by now. I think the best I personally can hope for is a waitlist. But again, there's not much to go on here.
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I am in the same boat with Oregon. I imagine that if waitlists have been sent out, then so too have the acceptances, and so the rejections are the last step. But, then, what is taking so long? I just want confirmation.
Then you look at the acceptance thread for last year and accepts are all over the place. There's no rhyme and reason to this machine. Best to probably stay away from this place haha.
I agree that rejections are the last to go out, but people have already reported receiving rejections on the admissions page. But I haven't heard anything. So I'm not sure what that means or if they messed up something with notifying me? Maybe we are on the waitlist somewhere and they are still deciding. I imagine if we were rejected we would've heard about it, especially since rejections have already gone out at UVA.
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OK, I put up that I hadn't heard from the University of Virginia about an admittance, waitlist, or rejection. It seems that acceptances, waitlists, and rejections have been posted for UVA already. What could this mean? I see that one other student put up the same thing. I checked the website and my account and there is no notice of any decision whatsoever. I know some people posted rejection notices were on their accounts, but that was not the case with me. Should I call them or just leave them alone for now and wait until March 15th?
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How come so many of the "big" schools haven't released acceptances yet? Don't they usually release something by this time, if not earlier? Is it that they *have* released, and the applicants who were accepted just aren't posting on the gradcafe, or what?
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A bunch of people reported rejections from Pittsburgh over the past week. I didn't hear anything. Should I take that as a good sign? I didn't apply to the history and philosophy of science program, but for another concentration in philosophy. I don't live far from pittsburgh so it's not like the mail has to travel across the country to reach me.
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Hi, does anybody know whether University of Wisconsin, Madison posted yet this week? Thanks!
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Is there any chance that Virginia will spread out its acceptances over a few days, like not just today (Wednesday), but Thursday and Friday? They seem to have done that in 2014, but in 2013 there was only one acceptance notification for Virginia on one day and one waitlist notification on another day before all the rejections went out. I'm just wondering if I should give up on the school and move on to somewhere else.
2015 Acceptance Thread
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I just got finished looking through the posts from last year, and what people are saying about CUNY acceptances and waitlists is exactly right: CUNY tends to spread its acceptances and especially its waitlists out over a significant period of time. Its rejections, however, only came on 10 March of last year. They were not spread out like the acceptances and waitlists. Though I didn't look for years before 2014, I think that provides at least a little reason for hope.