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Yes, does Hunter's MA program have a good reputation and placement record at top PhD programs? And are there any other relatively inexpensive or funded MA programs in the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic or Midwest besides Williams, Tufts, Bard, UMass Amherst, SUNY Stony Brook and Hunter? This thread has gotten dead since most people have received their acceptances or rejections by now, I'm assuming.
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@noprovenance Thank you very much for this advice. I'll definitely consider it. Along with Williams, are there any other master's program that offer funding and are good in modern European art? I know Tufts offers funding, but I decided that none of the professors were a close enough match to my interests to warrant applying. I've heard Bard has an extremely good curatorial program too, but if I'm correct, it only focuses on contemporary art. Btw, I love your username haha
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I posted the following on the Christie's thread, but I'll post it here as well because I need as much help as I can get: I've been accepted into both Christie's MA in Modern and Contemporary Art and the Market in New York and the IFA's MA in the History of Art and Archaeology. I'm not sure whether I'd like to work at an auction house or be a museum curator, but I do know that I'm NOT interested in academia and being a professor. I just turned 26 on Friday and I've been told that I should be able to decide by now whether I want to work at an auction house (or other for-profit work) or be a curator, but I'm really just not sure yet. Although I've taken a lot of art history classes, interned as an appraiser and interned at a couple of museums, I still don't feel like I have enough experience to make an informed decision and choose a path. I don't want to limit myself. I'd like to keep my options open, if possible. Would I have trouble getting a curatorial job with an MA from Christie's if I decide that's what I want to pursue? And if I decide to get my PhD at some point, would I be able to get into prestigious/top ten PhD programs with an MA from Christie's, or would it hurt my chances because universities don't consider it academic enough? I have enough money in savings to afford the MA program at NYU, although I've heard it's a cash cow program and that I won't get much attention because it's large compared to other MA programs. Which program would you advise me to pick? I'd greatly appreciate your help. Thanks.
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Reputation of Christie's Education in the US
welshforjohn replied to ldesully's topic in Art History
@GhostsBeforeBreakfast @poliscar I've been accepted into both Christie's MA in Modern and Contemporary Art and the Market in New York and the IFA's MA in the History of Art and Archaeology. I'm not sure whether I'd like to work at an auction house or be a museum curator, but I do know that I'm NOT interested in academia and being a professor. I just turned 26 on Friday and I've been told that I should be able to decide by now whether I want to work at an auction house (or other for-profit work) or be a curator, but I'm really just not sure yet. Although I've taken a lot of art history classes, interned as an appraiser and interned at a couple of museums, I still don't feel like I have enough experience to make an informed decision and choose a path. I don't want to limit myself. I'd like to keep my options open, if possible. Would I have trouble getting a curatorial job with an MA from Christie's if I decide that's what I want to pursue? And if I decide to get my PhD at some point, would I be able to get into prestigious/top ten PhD programs with an MA from Christie's, or would it hurt my chances because universities don't consider it academic enough? I have enough money in savings to afford the MA program at NYU, although I've heard it's a cash cow program and that I won't get much attention because it's large compared to other MA programs. Which program would you advise me to pick? I'd greatly appreciate your help. Thanks. -
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You might feel really isolated without a drivers license then. Which program at NYU were you accepted into? Their PhD or master's?
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It's true that Bard is only a shuttle or train ride away from the city, but that can get taxing, and expensive if you take the train. I went to Purchase College for undergrad, which is right outside of White Plains, and I only went to the city once every two or three weeks because taking the train got expensive and going back and forth would make for a long day and could be kind of taxing. And Purchase is about an hour and a half south of Bard by car, so I imagine the train and/or shuttle is quite a bit longer than the 45 minute train ride I had into the city. If you think you can deal with that though, I've heard great things about Bard!
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It is isolated, but Rhinebeck and Hudson aren't far, and those are cool towns, and Kingston isn't that far either if you need to go to any big box stores or chains for anything. Coming from a city, it probably would be a culture shock though. I'm from the Albany area, so it wouldn't be that big a change for me. I've heard Bard has very good professors, but there's not that many contemporary art museums in the area outside of the campus one, unless you drive to MASS MoCA, Dia Beacon or to one of the contemporary sculpture parks, such as Storm King and Art OMI. You would be able to see more art, and probably make more connections, by doing a program in NYC. On the other hand, the cost of living is much cheaper in the Hudson Valley lol
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Has anyone heard back about BU's master's program? I still haven't heard back and I'm getting very impatient. Last year someone wasn't accepted until April 10 though, so maybe BU just takes FOREVER to get back to master's applicants. Also, I called Penn last week and found out I've been rejected, yet I haven't received any official email or notification from them. I looked at previous years and it seems they have a reputation for this? Strange since Penn had the earliest deadline out of the programs I applied to. CUNY was by far the quickest in getting back. Although I was rejected, I respect their efficiency. @Pie_art I'm sorry to hear that, but good luck in re-applying next year! You sound intelligent and hard-working, so I'm sure you can do it!
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Same. I just got accepted today. Does anyone have any idea what the acceptance rate is for their master's program? It seems like the majority of people who have posted, including past years, have been accepted into the master's program. Is it not that selective? I know it's not as selective as their PhD program, obviously, but I thought it was still selective. It is NYU, after all. Is it under 50% at the VERY least? Otherwise, I'm not going to feel as good about myself as I did earlier today lol Btw, trolls need not answer. @northeastregionalYou need to get your head out of your own ass. You sound as narcissistic as Donald Trump and Kanye West. I scored in the 97th percentile on the verbal portion of the GRE. I know there are some people who did better than me, but I still did better than 97% of those who took it. Please don't question my abilities or assume that I'm not intelligent enough just because I didn't get into a program. Please don't do the same for other posters, as well. Don't you know what they say? To assume is to make an ass out of u and me.
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@betsy303 Thanks for the tips! They're definitely helpful. I'm attending a master's program in the fall since I was rejected from the PhD programs I applied to, so having my master's should help me when I reapply and your tips should be helpful as well!
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@bosie_dearest Thanks for the info and tips! I know that being rejected obviously has something to do with one's application, but one of my friends who was rejected by all of the PhD English Literature programs she applied to (she only applied to top ten programs and mostly Ivies) called all of the programs that rejected her to ask what she could improve, and they all gave a similar answer along the lines of, "It has nothing to do with your application; it was fine. It's just a competitive program." She knows that's not the truth and was disappointed that they didn't tell her what she needed to improve, but she figures they can't answer and look at every rejected applicant because there are more grad school applicants than ever these days. I was thinking about calling Penn and asking what I could do to improve my chances of being accepted, but I'm guessing they're going to give me a similar answer to all of the responses she received, so that's why I asked if I should even bother calling. Also, congrats on attending the IFA's PhD program in the fall! That's exciting!
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Is there anyone who has reapplied to programs and asked what they can do to improve their application/chances of getting in? If so, did they actually tell you what you can improve or did they just say something along the lines of, "It has nothing to do with your application; it was fine. It's just a competitive program."? I'm asking because I know somebody much older than me who was rejected from a PhD program for clinical psychology the first time and they asked what they needed to improve and were actually told that they needed more research experience. They got published and lo and behold, they were accepted when they reapplied. That was at least two or three decades ago, though, so grad programs probably get more applicants now and thus, are not as helpful.
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That was classy of them *sarcasm* I haven't posted on here or corresponded with you or anyone in more than a month because I've been so busy, but I called UPenn today to get an update on my application status before I commit elsewhere and I was told that I've been rejected. The woman I talked to seemed kind of annoyed about having to check though, like she's had to do this a lot or she doesn't like her job. She didn't even say, "Sorry, but unfortunately, you haven't been accepted for admission." She just said, "You haven't been accepted for admission," and that was it. It was kind of blunt. Oh well. To the poster who called Penn yesterday for the same reasons as me and was rejected, did they seem kind of annoyed to you as well? Was that you, bossy_dearest?
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Does anyone know if schools deal with acceptances and rejections for PhD programs before they deal with them for master's programs?
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Congrats! Honestly, I think it depends more on which POIs match your interests more closely.