slavsquat
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honestly i have a feeling it's going to be next week, but we've waited this long at this point one more week isn't too bad hahah
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well here we go again... so close guys, so close ?
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6 minutes ago, Bayesian1701 said:
I am antideficit but cutting NSF funding is not the way to do it in my opinion. You could probably save more money by being more efficient when it comes to the big expenses: defense, entitlements, and bureaucracy. Banning student loans for for profit programs would also save a ton of money since a lot of for profit graduates default and have tons of debt. I think the NSF is important because we need basic research for our society to advance. I don’t think we are inventing research jobs with NSF that wouldn’t have existed otherwise. There are over saturated fields and under saturated ones. Maybe in some fields where industry opportunities are low we are producing too many PhDs but I think there is a case for a shortage in certain fields where industry demand is high (stats, cs). Also a 2.1% unemployment rate is pretty good. The goal unemployment rate they always talked about in my economic classes (it was my minor) is 3-5% so that the market can be fluid. That probably indicates to few PhDs over not enough.
i agree with you on all of that 100%
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4 minutes ago, nanograd said:
It is quite bold, I know, but my reasoning is as follows.
I am a bit of a minimalist, and I think we can do the same work ("we" = PhD workforce as a whole; all fields, academia+industry. "work" = pursuit of scientific and technological advancement) with much less. We don't need as many professors in academia if we stop encouraging everyone and their brother into getting a bachelor's degree, and instead offer some technical secondary school and beyond options, to help save trades which are necessary and dying. We will need less funding for PIs, and thus smaller incoming PhD classes.
I'm not saying their aren't jobs out there, but I am posing the question; were these jobs created so that PhDs could work, or were PhDs created so they could do these jobs?
I'm just offering up my opinions here to stir up some thoughts in some young bright minds, not saying I am right or wrong.i mean i completely agree about the trades aspect. i am the daughter of an electrician and i see the value of it very clearly, especially with it dying out in america.
however, there are people who want a PhD for other reasons then to become a professor- such as getting certain jobs in industrial fields. just a thought because academic isn't the only option.
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1 hour ago, nanograd said:
We are over-producing PhDs, as well as BA/BS students. And continuing to pump funding into research only drives this siphoning of funds from kids who will see little return on their time spent earning a degree which has been devalued.
where are you getting the numbers to back this? it really depends on your field of study. if we're talking about finding jobs, in engineering and science such results were found (here):
"A special analysis of the 2010 SDR data found that only 2.1% of Ph.D. scientists and engineers were unemployed 2 years after earning their degrees. And that number drops to 1.9% for those 3 to 5 years beyond their degree."
this is super unrelated to the original thread obviously, but i think that claim you're making is bold especially on this particular thread
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I'm still waiting for 2 schools, but they were basically my "safety" schools. I had gotten into 3 others, and rejected from another. I got into one of my top choices and decided to accept after my visit because it's an amazing school, program, and they provided me with tremendous funding. In a weird way my intuition really pulled through for making my choice. Guess I'll see how it pans out!
I was definitely freaking out when I wasn't sure where I was going to end up. I had a lot of self doubt and thought that maybe I'd make the wrong choice, but ultimately there are plenty of options out there regardless of the outcome. I think that's what comforted me the most through this- knowing that I could always find something out there for me if I didn't like where I was.
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23 minutes ago, GoldenDog said:
To be clear, there is a fairly informative post on stack exchange, here, that explains the application process fairly well. They split the applicants into different pools based upon status (UG vs grad, etc). So you compete against other peers within your year. This makes it fairly easier to get grfp as an undergrad, but less undergrads apply of course.
thanks so much for sharing this!
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54 minutes ago, octocat said:
Oh I totally meant to add this above - do people ever negotiate? A friend of mine said he negotiated with NYU when he got into Tisch. Would it be worth it to give Cornell a call and explain that I have another offer?
I haven't heard of many people negotiating, mainly because there are other people usually in the same boat as you with the same funding offers. however, it wouldn't hurt to reach out to cornell and ask if they have any internal fellowships or research assistant/teaching assistant positions that you could possible qualify for. if you have a specific professor is mind at cornell, reach out to them and see if they have any funding. obviously you really have to have research interests that align with a given professor to be seriously considered but it definitely gives you an edge (especially since you've already been accepted)! i would be careful when mentioning other offers and mention these other things beforehand.
a big help in making my decision was reaching out to current and past grad students from the programs i got into. they gave me insight on the pros and cons, professors and classes to avoid, basically the entire low down on the stuff that you can't see on a visit or the college's website. if possible, a visit can really help make your mind up as well so try to make it out to them.
i hope this helped somewhat. best of luck in your decision!!
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4 minutes ago, grilledcheese1 said:
Oh, that's not too bad. Maybe they try to evenly award them based on year. Where did you find those numbers?
on the NSF award announcement page from the previous years (they break down several stats about the people who won)
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12 minutes ago, carlsaganism said:
sorry, I was very unclear. What I meant "by year" was senior ugrad vs 1st year grad vs 2nd year grad. Someone claimed that it is more difficult to get the fellowship as a 2nd year grad and I don't think that's accurate.
oh my bad! i see what you mean and i do agree- i genuinely think it's just based on the strength of the applications and there's not a necessarily a different standard from year to year. i mean after all, there's undergrads with multiple applications and significant accomplishments.
5 minutes ago, grilledcheese1 said:Why don't you think that's accurate?
I'm not sure myself, but I feel like as a 2nd year I have no shot at all. NSF says that they strongly encourage undergrads to apply - I wonder if they award disproportionately more to undergrads? Anecdotal, but it seems like every time someone posts that they got the GRFP, it's an undergrad. The stakes are also higher for 2nd years it seems. It seems like reviewers expect all 2nd years to have multiple 1st-author pubs, even if you're in a field (like mine) where most students don't have pubs until at least their 3rd year.
last year there was 726 senior undergrads and 627 senior undergrads in 2016- so i guess not!
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7 minutes ago, GoldenDog said:
If you look at my the post I made earlier, you can see that last year it decreased by like 30%, which seems pretty significant to me. But I would think it would be similar, maybe with 1-2k less this year because students previously grandfathered in are gone.
I'm pretty sure it's been 2k every year (google grfp winners for 201x and you'll see they have posted about it officially on their website- 2015-2017 have been 2k winners) the $$ amounts have varied through the years because the budget changed and a few years ago there was a significant increase to the budget. however i feel that for this year the budget won't affect the amount of people accepted and the reward they had mentioned (but i suspect that the years to follow might be affected as a result of any budget changes)
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are you guys gonna move off campus or do graduate housing?
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wooo! so excited to join in the fall
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maannnn the anxiety of finding out is real... hoping for this friday tho!
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