ruralpaintin

My biggest issue that I am seeing with these comments is still persisting, and that is y'all are down playing the credibility of other programs that exist beyond NYC/LA/Chicago. To bring in the situation of the 2019 Whitney Biennial, you also gotta let people know about the criticism it received because midwestern artists were not included or that only individuals coming from certain programs were represented. It was a huge debate, and ultimately, while the show was still great, did not fully encompass art-making in America. People who didn't go through these programs are still getting shows, residencies, grants, etc. There is so much more to art-making than where ever you went into debt to be at. These programs which y'all are claiming don't have connections (inaccurate) or resources to get individuals where they want to be are actually doing just that, the same as other places. What I hope others on this forum will take away from this is that you don't have to go to specific programs in order to be successful. Not everyone coming out of the top 10 institutions is making the best work and some of those schools are factories for creating people to pump out "just decent" work for some gallery representation. They don't take all their students places with 'em. Not everyone is their shining prize. The "art world" is a lot more than the top gallery spaces, and people have the ability to change that for the better. Let's not continue systems that don't support the common interest, okay? ? And before y'all make a list of readings from CalArts, remember that other institutions have similar structures and access to these readings is universal in academia. They ain't the only ones havin' people read...really interesting of ya to assume that though. I read these in undergrad (Krauss is a personal favorite, have you read "sculpture in the expanded form"? You can connect it to painting theory really well). I can play art theory academic too ? Too those of you going to state programs or anywhere outside of the NYC/LA/Chi scene, you're doing just as great. I'm right there with yah.

It's classist to tell others that only NYC, LA, and Chicago institutions will get you places. If you really want to be there, then that's a different story but don't let your deciding factors be solely based on capitalist rankings and the school "getting you somewhere." Those programs are expensive and not everyone can afford to be without funding. Don't support individuals who shit on programs that actually offer resources to their students.

Hey Y'all! Just wanted to hop back in and offer some midwestern advice. To the individuals on this forum supporting the idea that only elite schools get you places, I'm sorry to tell ya' but you just ain't correct. Sweetheart, it's okay to admit you're wrong. ? Those individuals teaching at all those "elite" programs didn't come from those places—they came from other programs in their own time. Higher education changes and with that, so does its rankings. The "art world" is bigger than the few blocks of NYC outdated galleries sittin' pretty in Chelsea. And it sure is hell ain't no prestigious papers saying your MFA is from top-tier institute. Art is more than that, so if you're plannin' for a career swimmin' in money then move outta the way cuz you ain't here for the right reasons. A lot of state school programs are really great with what they can offer students: great facilities, full funding, TA/GA positions, etc. The reality is that these elite programs can't offer that because they know students will "pay to play" and eventually compete against other students for resources. If y'all would do some real research and contact current students from varying kinds of programs, you would know that. Yale ain't given millions to everyone who walks through those doors and SVA ain't got the greatest studios (I know because I used to paint in one, ain't got nothin' but a closet and a curtain). And get this, those state programs have professors from these "elite" programs! I know, who knew?! The reality of this post is that some of those on here are spreading misinformation when they haven't even applied to an MFA program yet. You can go ahead and stop because its uncalled for, inaccurate, and irresponsible. Do not affect people's lives and futures like that. I go to a small college in the middle of the country. This ain't no flyover state and there's a lot this region is offering. Y'all have no clue what's beyond those blue-chip, ivory towers. I'll give you a hint: people who invest into what art means rather than the money y'all wanna play with. Don't be classist and do not put down individuals for going to state programs. You ain't got no right and no business to be spittin' trash. ?

Thank you so much! And thank you for letting me know about the timeline. I haven't received anything else yet after my interview but I'll update if I do. We might possibly end up in the same grad program, or at the same school? That's super cool! Do you have an Instagram? You can DM me on here.

Thank you so much! I never interviewed; I was under the impression they simply went through applications and decided based on that. They possibly interview some applicants?

Hey y'all! I had my interview with UPenn late last week and think it went really well. They said I should hear back in a few weeks so probably by the beginning of March. I'm still waiting to hear back from Hunter and Indiana U. This morning I got an email acceptance from U Iowa for painting!

Jumping on the band wagon with a rejection from Yale for painting ? ? From reading past forums other programs I applied to should be sending out notifications soon. Projected timeline for Hunter Painting applicants? I assume with their pushback date of submission, notifications will be later than expected. Waiting to hear back from Hunter College, Indiana University, and University of Iowa. I have an interview with the University of Pennsylvania this week. A friend who interviewed there told me notifications would come out the second week of March for them.

Received a rejection email from Carnegie Mellon this morning ? its alright though, the possibility of something better coming along? Yet to hear from Yale, UIowa, Hunter, Indiana. UPenn interview is next week?

Hey y'all! I've been checking in on this forum for a little while now and felt compelled to create an account and add some content. Recently got my last application in for graduate school. I'm applying to painting and studio programs for this upcoming fall. Below is my list of programs I applied to: Carnegie Mellon University Yale University University of Pennsylvania (Received an invitation to interview) University of Iowa Hunter College Indiana University — Bloomington Such great energy on here and hope folks get their picks! We'll keep manifesting our goals and update as we go along.