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phil_lang

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  1. Had a low GPA in undergrad ten years ago and going to a philosophy MA program to clean my slate for philosophy PhD applications. Money is a consideration, but not enough to eliminate any of these choices and I'd rather skip the finances discussion and get straight to advice concerning which program would help me 1) enjoy the experience and 2) get placed in a PhD program which is highly ranked. Are the objections to CUNY and Stanford that MA students won't get attention (won't get help with their writing samples and won't get very good rec letters) overblown? How do you account for the fact that CUNY MA students often get highly placed? And are there any general differences between a CSULB which places well when they place but they only do 2-4 phd applications of their 20-25 student class sizes and a NIU which takes 15 a year and places 15 a year? Any thoughts welcome. Open ended. I'm languishing in indecision and running up against deadlines. Thanks!
  2. It's 2025 and I'm in a similar situation. I'm looking at CUNY, CSULB, or NIU. The "a degree that won't do anything for them" might be a bit hyperbolic. In the last two years allegedly half of the MA students at CUNY got into top PhD programs like UT Austin and Stanford. Even if it is a "cash cow" the degree does things for people—how many people and how consistently is unclear. I agree that money is a consideration, but CUNY's tuition is actually lower than CSULB and cost of living isn't far off. Putting money aside, the question is one of faculty attention and educational experience. I am going into philosophy of language and CUNY has people I want to learn from and courses I want to take. There are a lot of PhD students and few MA students, which means that to include us in faculty attention wouldn't place a great burden on faculty but it also isn't as incentivized because MA placement isn't a priority. What kind of "attention" does one need anyways? They have a MA proseminar and they have a MA capstone where you write your writing sample. Being memorable for a recommendation letter seems like a different and lesser form of competition with PhD students than getting support with application writing samples. Where exactly is there going to be a deficit of attention for MA students at CUNY?
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