Hanyuye
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Wow, everyone's on the waiting list?! Absurd with the credentials we all have, considering their program isn't even in the top 20 nationally, I would expect them to be more lenient towards applicants. But then again, I'm pretty sure hordes of folks just wanted to get in based on the prestige alone and not department.
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2.9 GPA here, applying for PhD'S and MS's in Biostatistics/Biomath. I returned to school to complete more advanced math/statistics courses and ante up my GPA but I still got rejected to 7/9 schools so far. My gpa is that bad because I had SEVERE domestic issues within the first two years of undergraduate school ( went to the wrong school, majored in the wrong major initially, no familial support, advisors at school were HORRIBLE), included a brief description of my issues in my SOP but didn't drag it on.
All in all, I tend to excel beyond my expectations when I'm alone or have my own space. Things I never had and still don't even at this moment of my life. I was hoping for a life-changer starting September 2012 but it seems bleak. Now I'm applying for Spring 2013 in applied math/biomath/applied math programs to reverse the two years of chaos that as I say, ruined my life.
Congrats and glory to those who rectified themselves through hardships, I can't seem the see the light.
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I don't know if you checked, but the results are in, I was rejected by Yale for the PHD Biostatistics/Epidemiology. This sucks bad, really bad. 5 rejections and 2 left to know about.
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I would not be happy with the Masters from my current undergraduate college as it is a two-year program and I won't be taking it full-time if I enrolled.
As for the applied math courses, I can get the ones you listed and most of what I mentioned earlier done by the end of summer with good grades I believe- Also, do you think I should just enroll in graduate courses as an undergrad and see if my graduate choices will see that any differently than completing the major?
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Hi there,
A quick roundabout about this season full of wallops; I applied to 7 colleges, 4 for Masters, and 3 for PHD. So far, I've gotten 3 rejections from Masters and 1 rejection for PHD. I still haven't heard from UNC, YALE, and NCSU (Biomath).
I graduated with a BA in English and right now I'm taking prerequisites to fulfill the entry requirements and beyond. I've taken
Calculus with Analytical Geometry I, II, and III. Graph Theory, Applied Statistics, Fundamental Ecology, Fundamental Physics, Advanced Math Proofs. I'm currently taking Linear Algebra and Probability Theory and my summer courses are pending on suggestions.
My question is, so far as I've been rejected (GRE, V 155, Q 158, AW 4.5), should I keep taking bachelor courses to finish a math major (about 4-5 more courses which are Differential Equations, Discrete Math, Applied Math, and Mathematical Statistics/Stochastic). Or apply for for a super safety school for applied math (the same one I'm taking undergrad courses at) and then while as a grad student in the fall, apply for Fall 2013 Masters/PHD programs?
If this isn't clear, I'll be glad to clarify.
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I think most Biomath programs that I looked at (FSU, NCSU, University of Utah) have about 2-3 Stat classes in their curricula. While Biostat courses have about 6-7 and biomath have a lot of applied math as well. I'm just thinking that Biomath isn't at concentrated as Bioinformatics/Biostats and that it's not that helpful to apply for jobs with it.
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Hi all,
I am looking at programs in Biomathematics and I was wondering, what exactly can Biomath grads apply to after graduation? I've been looking at Indeed and usually see jobs requiring Biostats and Bioinformatics, but never Biomath. Is it something ONLY for research (Research Triangle in NC, etc.) or an actual job job?
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Hi Hanyuye,
just joined, this is actually my first post.
just wanna say that i really admire your determination. I also want to get in MSc Biostats / Stats and I’m actually working in a biostats company (very junior position and company name to be kept nameless) in Canada.
My undergrad major was in Microbiology and Economics. I took some econ courses which were math related, but most admissions would not consider those. Now I am going back to school to take some undergrad math courses, hopefully they will waive me for some of the pre-requisite courses and let me take the senior courses because if I get a choice, I don't want to start from year 1 again. It will cost me a lot of time and a fortune, and I'm working full time now.
I don’t know if I am as determined as you are, but I’m glad to hear from someone in a similar situation, and see that I am not alone.
Thank You Outliers, there are many of us on the same path; just seems like this path is shrouded in fog and we can not see each other.
So I believe you aren't taking any math courses at this moment? Hoping to start the undergrad courses in the spring?
How is working in Biostatistics as a junior? I'm guessing you have Ph.D managers telling you to pursue an MS/Ph.D for advancement? Or is this based on your interests alone?
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So for those of you in Biostatistics, what made you become a Biostatistician or is it a formidable transition for a graduate of just Statistics to go into Biostatistics?
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Also, don't take my tone as aggressive, I was just elaborating myself. Looking forward to your suggestions again!
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Applying to graduate school to study Biostatistics without any math might be a bad idea. From UW's Biostatistics website:
Potential M.S. and Ph.D. students may enter the Graduate Program in Biostatistics from an undergraduate major in mathematics, statistics, or a biological sciences field. Students are occasionally admitted with backgrounds in other fields; however, all applicants should have the equivalent of 30
I took Calculus I, and Calculus II in high school and freshman year of college. Now I'm taking Calculus III, Linear Algebra, Advanced Math Proofs, Probability Theory and Math Analysis within Spring semester. I do have beyond the math minimum, but not much above it.
My independent thesis as I said was the Japanese economy from the Meiji Era to the 1980s, juxtaposition economic facts with film and urban studies at that time. When I did this thesis back in 2009, I had no idea about what I'm pursuing now. I've always been a serious student but my considering I have a tremendous amount of domestic distractions at home and family, my gpa struggled in the first two years. Then I emerged out of the darkness stronger and able to handle classes, focusing on priorities was much easier.
As for the adcoms, the recommendations that I'm receiving from my professors know I'm a serious student and know me personally. However, to convince the adcoms that I'm serious is troubling me. I know there's a Fit, Focus, and Future outline for SoP's. I am certain about the future and focus, but fit?? I can't describe myself as a proper column for their foundation.
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Hi all,
I'll be asking all you great people shortly to edit my SoP. As I'm writing my first draft and almost done, I realized that I do have a specific interest in Biostatistics, which is its applications towards mental health, psychiatry and neuroscience. However, I have NO research experience in math nor statistics. I did complete a semester-long independent study thesis on the Japanese economy. This thesis taught me how delicate and diligent one must be to seek any information or question unanswered. How do I go about this issue that I have no research? Should I just include that I completed a semester long independent study and not explain the details? ( Which I'm more inclined to do so).
Best,
Han
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I'm currently satisfied working for the next few years (especially with the current economy), I'm starting to get a hang of my current position, and the sky is the limit in terms of promotion, but I don't see myself here forever. If I can manage to ride out the economic turmoil in a good job being paid good money I'll be happy. However, being in a consumer driven enterprise does mean my job isn't 100% secure, though much more so than many others. I think if push came to shove I'm more than willing to return to school if it is warranted, I've luckily got the funds to survive a lot of the costs.
You're totally right on continue working. Is the program you're applying to part time and near work/home?
My job has no promotion incentive for two years. And I have to get certified under their permission to be promoted.
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In addition to any economic concerns--working (for 4 years or so in my case) after graduation has really clarified my goals as far as what I want to achieve in grad school. Like some other posters said, there's no hurry--work experience can really only make you a better candidate, showing that you have an idea of life beyond the classroom.
I completely understand, but I really wanted to do this after graduation. It was just recently that I earned this full-time job. Been thinking about what I want for 2 years.
As for Pensar, if you don't have any domestic restrictions and you get accepted to a notable school- GO FOR IT!
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I'm in the same situation. I graduated in '09 and just started my first full time job in July 2011. Between those two years of excruciating pain, I went back to school for a semester (for CIS, then stopped because it was horrible and hated my college) and part time work as tutor (barely 100 bucks a week for that time). Now I'm back at school for Math Pre-reqs to apply for grad school of Fall 2012. I'm 90% sure I want to go to grad school and leave. I know the money is imperative now as I just started working, but for many personal reasons; I can't live in NYC anymore because of severe domestic issues and restrictions.
So I'm torn between my resentment for the issues at hand. In the meantime, I'm working, taking 2 classes and Studying for GRE to take soon.
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Anyone? Also, would anyone know the reputation of UIC Biostatistics MS Program? I'm applying there as a safety school.
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BUMP!
So, another question for you accepted and experienced folks.
How much more competitive is it applying as an undergrad for a PHD program in Biostatistics/Statistics?
I'm looking at the CMU dual PHD/MS program. ( I really want to apply for these programs, any school in Biostatistics/Statistics with the dual program; let me know!)
I emailed a few grad advisors, CMU replied to me stating that if someone is rejected for the PHD program, they are not considered for the MS program. Also, any programs with the dual PHD/MS and where the application for the PHD is rejected and considered for the MS.
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Wow Guthrie. I must admit that you're credentials are impressive. However, let not your GRE prove your academic credentials to be imbalanced. I suggest you should apply for the top 20 schools.
Also, I'm sure you can note in your essay that you're working on that project with the NSF and you could possibly submit that project as coinciding your SOP.
Aim High!
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Professor, do you know the biostatistics program at University of Southern California? It is under the department of preventive medicine, keck school of medicine. Is it good? Do you know any faculty over there?
thanks!
BUMP!
Hoping someone would answer this. I'm applying for at least 10 schools myself.
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And yourself yg7? What progarms are you interested in exactly?
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I'm in the exact same boat. I emailed several committee members of the grad programs for Biostatistics/Statistics (I know you're mainly into math but the prerequisites are quite similar) of UPITT, UCLA, UC DAVIS, BU, UCHICAGO, U MINNESOTA, UW, UNC. They told me if I didn't have the completed major/degree, that the minimum would be 2 years of cal, linear algebra. Then real analysis with abstract algebra. As for GPA, which is my problem too, math was my childhood passion and I was reignited by that passion when I attended a Mathematics Forum (World Science Festival here in NYU), and an audience member asked a PH.D guest from London about regaining passion. I'm not sure who the PH.d was, but I'll look for it again, he said "Try to remember how you thought of things around you, how you looked at a problem. Did your mind analyze it with math terms, scientific reasons, and logic proofs? Is it the same now? And I do remember he said read Gallians' book! So, I hope this helps. I'm applying this coming fall for next year's programs. Cheers!
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I have a question for Hanyuye. Sorry for the stupid question, but what is your status at Hunter? Are you an undergrad student with a major? If not, what is it? I ask this because I'm in a same boat and planning to do something similar.
HI YG7, I'm a graduate from Baruch College and taking undergrad at Hunter. I'm an upper junior status at Hunter. I declared my major in STatistics. Right now , it's not going so good because Hunter notified me of a missing immunization form!! At the last second!! So far, Matrix Algebra, and Math Proof works are filled; I'm only registered for Calc 3 right now, and Linear Algebra is still open. I'm going to give them my immunization form Monday morning. Hopefully, it gets settled by the same night. If not, I'll call the professors/registrar's office to get permission from them.
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Hi Hanyuye,
A few people have mentioned this, but I wanted to stress it again: the US is not the same as Canada. Masters degrees are usually seen as remedial degrees or for people changing fields in the US, and are generally unfunded. This is not the case in Canada. Schools won't admit you into a PhD program without a masters degree in Canada, and masters degrees are fully funded. Being accepted to a masters degree program in Canada is as difficult as being admitted to a PhD program in the US.
Also, you don't need Calculus for linear algebra. They just stick it as a requirement to ensure mathematical maturity. Differential equations and vector analysis probably aren't too important for statistics. If possible, I would recommend taking some of mathematical statistics, probability theory, or real analysis instead.
Good Luck,
Matt
Thank you very much Matt!
That info is invaluable. The courses that I"m taking is being taken ONLY because it fits my work schedule. In fact, I had to beg my boss to switch to the evening shift to take the 3-4 math courses. The sad thing is, the college does have mathematical statistics, probability theory, and real analysis BUT the those class' times are EXACTLY in the 2 hour time slot that encompasses both shifts at work. So I'm hoping I can apply for the winter session at some Canadian colleges during the Spring and take those courses. I won't shoot for a PHD, like a said, waste of time in my situation.
Yale Biostatistics
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I spoke with the graduate advisor and she told me that they accept within 10-12 PHD students a year out of an applicant pool or more.