@2222222 thanks! I'd still consider hunter if I were you, based on the pricetag, location, faculty etc. I'm just relaying a sense of what I've seen, but also know people who did great going there, and didn't go into massive debt like you would at other spots. Getting a foot in in New York is pretty priceless. Were you accepted anywhere else? Upenn seems like it should have a lot of clout considering the reputation of the university as a whole- I just don't see a lot of people, especially painters, coming out of there and showing here in NYC. From what I understand it's on the up as a program, I'm just not sure any of these programs are worth taking on tons of debt.