2023 East Asian Studies (EAS/EALL/EALCS/EALC)

[PhDApplicant23]

Wait so does anyone else here have an acceptance? I was admitted to USC EALC (PhD) along with two other students.

[wanlichangcheng]

UChicago reject; good luck, everyone!

[AppleBird0210]

Rejected by UChicago. Really disappointed, for I love the EALC department here. Good luck everyone!

[PhDApplicant23]

1 hour ago, wanlichangcheng said:

UChicago reject; good luck, everyone!

Me too!

[PhDApplicant23]

Didn't get referred to MAPH at Chicago! Thank god because if I had I would have been totally insulted.

[thinkwisely]

Has anyone heard from Penn? I saw one post about the interview. Did y'all get interviews as well? 

[Natsumeowow]

5 hours ago, thinkwisely said:

Has anyone heard from Penn? I saw one post about the interview. Did y'all get interviews as well? 

Hi! I had an interview with UPenn last week and was told their result would be released later than usual this year.

[wanlichangcheng]

My inbox is getting pretty dusty ?

[Applicant_2023]

Hi all,

Has anyone heard from Princeton EAS? I had two interviews with POIs in early January, but no information since. Does it mean I have already been rejected? I saw several posts about their three interviews process.

[wanlichangcheng]

4 hours ago, Applicant_2023 said:

Hi all,

Has anyone heard from Princeton EAS? I had two interviews with POIs in early January, but no information since. Does it mean I have already been rejected? I saw several posts about their three interviews process.

I haven't heard from them so far.

[Justanotheraspirant]

4 hours ago, wanlichangcheng said:

I haven't heard from them so far.

Did you interview with Princeton? I've not had any interview and haven't heard anything from them, which I assume is a clear sign of a rejection, but I do wonder if everyone they're considering was actually called for an interview.

Edited February 9, 2023 by Justanotheraspirant

[wanlichangcheng]

20 minutes ago, Justanotheraspirant said:

Did you interview with Princeton? I've not had any interview and haven't heard anything from them, which I assume is a clear sign of a rejection, but I do wonder if everyone they're considering was actually called for an interview.

Alas, I've only interviewed with UCLA so far. As you can imagine, my expectations for this cycle are pretty much as low as can be. 

Based on some of the historical data available in the Results section (which we can't take as totally factual), it seems that some programs in EAS/EALC (I'm not sure about Princeton's, but it may be worth checking) have admitted students without interviews. 

And there also appear to have been some errant decisions rendered already for some programs, which suggests that decisions are not made (or at least not published) all at once. So, there is hope, but only time will tell! Good luck, Justanotheraspirant! I don't know your subfield, but this whole process reminds me a bit of that by which men in imperial China studied for the civil service exams in the hopes of obtaining a position in the imperial bureaucracy. It's a bit of a crap shoot. 

[Justanotheraspirant]

Thank you @wanlichangcheng! I was told by a former Princeton EAS PhD graduate that the EAS Department always does interviews, so I always had that in mind and thought that no interview was a direct sign of a rejection. Bu then I thought to myself, she started her program there ten years ago, so it's not impossible that things have changed a bit since.

Based also on historical data as well as on information I could gather from other places, my conclusion is that every department at every institution operates differently and there's no way for us to know anything for sure! Like nothing! That's why only those final confirmations (whether acceptances or rejections) can give us the only accurate answers.

I'm applying for Early China and because of that my options are very limited, both in terms of universities and potential advisors, so yes, expectations are kept as low as possible. And yes, the poor civil service aspirants of the past definitely had it much harder than we do, if things don't work out we at least have other options in life besides academia, whereas many of them were pretty much unequivocally focused on that one direction.

Good luck to you too! Patience and ease of mind!

[PhDApplicant23]

1 hour ago, Justanotheraspirant said:

Thank you @wanlichangcheng! I was told by a former Princeton EAS PhD graduate that the EAS Department always does interviews, so I always had that in mind and thought that no interview was a direct sign of a rejection. Bu then I thought to myself, she started her program there ten years ago, so it's not impossible that things have changed a bit since.

Based also on historical data as well as on information I could gather from other places, my conclusion is that every department at every institution operates differently and there's no way for us to know anything for sure! Like nothing! That's why only those final confirmations (whether acceptances or rejections) can give us the only accurate answers.

I'm applying for Early China and because of that my options are very limited, both in terms of universities and potential advisors, so yes, expectations are kept as low as possible. And yes, the poor civil service aspirants of the past definitely had it much harder than we do, if things don't work out we at least have other options in life besides academia, whereas many of them were pretty much unequivocally focused on that one direction.

Good luck to you too! Patience and ease of mind!

I heard from potential future DGS that not receiving an interview invite, and not receiving a rejection, is POTENTIALLY that you are a candidate that is on their list in the case that an admitted student does not accept the offer. So we could all possibly be candidates at the top of the pool, just waiting for other people to say no. Nothing is over, not even after April 15th. My friend was admitted to her PhD on April 14th last cycle.

[Justanotheraspirant]

1 hour ago, PhDApplicant23 said:

I heard from potential future DGS that not receiving an interview invite, and not receiving a rejection, is POTENTIALLY that you are a candidate that is on their list in the case that an admitted student does not accept the offer. So we could all possibly be candidates at the top of the pool, just waiting for other people to say no. Nothing is over, not even after April 15th. My friend was admitted to her PhD on April 14th last cycle.

Wow, imagine the strength you need to wait until the very end to hear back, but good for your friend! I also think that what you're saying might be true, in which case I would like to know not because I'd be hoping for an acceptance, but because that would at least be an indicator that I have a relatively strong application. THAT would be really good to know.

[wanlichangcheng]

38 minutes ago, Justanotheraspirant said:

Wow, imagine the strength you need to wait until the very end to hear back, but good for your friend! I also think that what you're saying might be true, in which case I would like to know not because I'd be hoping for an acceptance, but because that would at least be an indicator that I have a relatively strong application. THAT would be really good to know.

Indeed! As an aside, it's somewhat of a relief to know--however strange it may seem now with all this uncertainty--that on April 16 we will (likely) know how it all worked out. What we know on that day may end up changing our lives! Who knows. It's funny to think that it's just a few months away. 

[HGereat]

Stanford EALC MA accepted, but no funding. I wonder if they offer any grant or stipend opportunity the second year...

Edited February 13, 2023 by HGereat

[wanlichangcheng]

2 hours ago, HGereat said:

Stanford EALC MA accepted, but no funding. I wonder if they offer any grant or stipend opportunity the second year...

Congratulations! You may want to see if there is any tuition reduction for the second year. My program gives 50% off tuition in the second year, but I'm not sure if it's the case at Stanford. 

[junboroni]

7 hours ago, HGereat said:

Stanford EALC MA accepted, but no funding. I wonder if they offer any grant or stipend opportunity the second year...

Hi, congratulations! Did you apply directly for the MA programme or the PhD programme? I applied for the MA programme but have not heard any news yet :/

[urbandemarcate]

Haven't heard from harvard but I did not receive an interview so I assume its a rejection.

If I'm rejected by Harvard EALC, is it possible to be referred to the MA program? Or does Harvard not do that at all?

[HGereat]

....

 

Edited February 14, 2023 by HGereat

[ismisme]

Just an update but also looking for other accepted students:

 

Stanford EALC MA gave me an offer last Friday. I wonder if anybody else also had it?

[HGereat]

51 minutes ago, ismisme said:

Just an update but also looking for other accepted students:

 

Stanford EALC MA gave me an offer last Friday. I wonder if anybody else also had it?

Congratulations! Same here, any news about funding?

[HGereat]

12 hours ago, junboroni said:

Hi, congratulations! Did you apply directly for the MA programme or the PhD programme? I applied for the MA programme but have not heard any news yet ?

Hi, I applied for the MA program

[junboroni]

Does anyone known what's the difference between an offer and a decision letter? For instance, some people have received offers for Stanford MA's EALC programme -- but when i went to check in with them on my application status, they told me that decision letters have not been sent out yet and nothing has been finalised. Any reason behind the discrepancy?