exvat Posted March 11 Posted March 11 19 minutes ago, marcelswann said: Got into Columbia with a 20k scholarship! Only acceptance so far so i'll take the W but still very pricey 1a/6r/2w Congrats, that's a huge W for sure!!
Tinky C. Clown Posted March 11 Posted March 11 holy shit waitlisted at brooklyn college, really shocked. they never interviewed me. pananoprodigy, everything bagel lover, prufrock_ and 9 others 12
nikolairostov Posted March 11 Posted March 11 5 hours ago, baguettemagique said: Congrats! And yeah, it'd be hard to turn down a fully funded spot at Iowa... I'm on the WL and am not holding my breath. Congrats and good luck - you never know! Someone could easily prefer another program's location, faculty, cohort size, etc.
SheBop Posted March 11 Posted March 11 7 hours ago, exvat said: Assuming same money, it would depend on goals and vibes, esp after visits. I'm 40 and have a strong work history, an MS, and a desire to focus on craft (rather than pedagogy, say). So for me and what I'm looking for, I'd probably choose NYU. If I were younger and looking to build a strong CV ASAP in a program, I'd probably choose Columbia. I'm in the same boat re: NYU v. Columbia. Can you say a bit more about the differences? How does Columbia help you build a strong CV faster, etc.?
exvat Posted March 11 Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, SheBop said: I'm in the same boat re: NYU v. Columbia. Can you say a bit more about the differences? How does Columbia help you build a strong CV faster, etc.? The course credit requirements at Columbia are like double NYU's, iirc. Plus their history of hiring alumni for their small army of adjunct and full professor jobs, as well as developing tenure track candidates in the MFA program. I think they also beat out NYU in total Stegners? My understanding is that Columbia also has the best job placement prospects of all the programs, or something like that? My draws to NYU are the faculty (poetry), the lower course credit requirements (more time for poet vibes/a job), and the fact that I can actually afford it 🤷♂️ baguettemagique 1
nauseated Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Once again congrats to everyone! Something that's been on my mind these last few days, ever since the Columbia incident, is that I'm not sure if I have a lot of respect for these universities anymore. It had been dwindling since the crackdown on pro-Palestine protests anyway, but the silence about Sunday has really cemented it. Wondering now if it's for the better that I might not get in anywhere this cycle, considering my country might come under Mr. Orange's travel ban, too spewilicious, smallchange, Jane Wyman and 1 other 1 3
SheBop Posted March 11 Posted March 11 4 minutes ago, exvat said: The course credit requirements at Columbia are like double NYU's, iirc. Plus their history of hiring alumni for their small army of adjunct and full professor jobs, as well as developing tenure track candidates in the MFA program. I think they also beat out NYU in total Stegners? My understanding is that Columbia also has the best job placement prospects of all the programs, or something like that? My draws to NYU are the faculty (poetry), the lower course credit requirements (more time for poet vibes/a job), and the fact that I can actually afford it 🤷♂️ Thank you! That's helpful 😃 exvat 1
exvat Posted March 11 Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, SheBop said: Thank you! That's helpful 😃 Welcome! Happy deciding ✨ SheBop 1
szymborskasy Posted March 11 Posted March 11 (edited) 46 minutes ago, nauseated said: Once again congrats to everyone! Something that's been on my mind these last few days, ever since the Columbia incident, is that I'm not sure if I have a lot of respect for these universities anymore. It had been dwindling since the crackdown on pro-Palestine protests anyway, but the silence about Sunday has really cemented it. Wondering now if it's for the better that I might not get in anywhere this cycle, considering my country might come under Mr. Orange's travel ban, too i graduated undergrad at columbia in december, and i have to say––campus atmosphere, if that's something that's important to you, is incredibly changed in recent years, from how it was my first year. Police everywhere, closed gates, general fear/tension/uncertainty, and a student body deeply angry with the administration. It's hard to picture it unless you're there. I mention this because my college experience (and honestly, my perspective) was deeply changed by the events on campus last year (not that my experience is nearly as crazy or upsetting as the experiences of others), and perhaps i had a more extreme experience as an undergrad, but i can imagine that graduate students were also deeply affected. not a warning against columbia, but i'd definitely take this into account for people considering the program there. (FYI i got accepted today, and will be taking another offer one hundred percent, not just because of the funding, but because of my disillusionment with admin and the exhaustion of living in that tense atmosphere for the last few semesters). this is not to talk down to anyone/necessarily discourage anyone applying or planning to accept - it is truly a wonderful program, and some of the mfa students ive met there are absolutely fabulous talented people. but campus atmosphere (and the national attention it gets) really has the ability to shape any students' experiences there, and so definitely keep that in mind folks <33 Edited March 11 by szymborskasy exvat, nauseated, pananoprodigy and 1 other 4
nauseated Posted March 11 Posted March 11 5 minutes ago, szymborskasy said: i graduated undergrad at columbia in december, and i have to say––campus atmosphere, if that's something that's important to you, is incredibly changed in recent years, from how it was my first year. Police everywhere, closed gates, general fear/tension/uncertainty, and a student body deeply angry with the administration. It's hard to picture it unless you're there. I mention this because my college experience was deeply changed by the events on campus last year (not that my experience is nearly as crazy or upsetting as the experiences of others), and perhaps i had a more extreme experience as an undergrad, but i can imagine that graduate students were also deeply affected. not a warning against columbia, but i'd definitely take this into account for people considering the program there. (FYI i got accepted today, and will be taking another offer one hundred percent, not just because of the funding, but because of my disillusionment with admin and the exhaustion of living in that tense atmosphere for the last few semesters) Thank you for sharing - that's really helpful and I'm sure it must have been so stifling. Congrats on your other offer, too! I hope you find a wonderful cohort and lots of success and peace. And yeah - that is what I was thinking of, too. Everything I've seen online has been so... repulsive that for the past couple of years I have seriously been reconsidering if I ever want to pursue grad school in the States, especially under this admin. Not like I can do so anyway with no acceptances yet, but would be a much more heavier decision if the time ever comes
ksiezniczka.monisia Posted March 11 Posted March 11 When, do you think, would it be appropriate to email the department about the decision?
everything bagel lover Posted March 11 Posted March 11 (edited) Big day for news yesterday, congrats to those that got acceptances and waitlists!!! ❤️❤️ Today I'm manifesting the GTA position at CSU 🕯️ I submitted my application on December 1st and now that I'm so close to the finish line but it's not yet in reach, the wait feels intolerable. I've become insufferable to those around me because I keep endlessly speculating about the circumstances around the waitlist. Soon, I imagine we'll be entering waitlist purgatory for a lot of folks and I wish you peace and good news ❤️❤️❤️ Edit to add: I took some deep breaths and I'm feeling more normal again lol I just keep bouncing between heart wrenching desire for this program and knowing that things will be okay regardless and nothing meant for me will pass me by Edited March 11 by everything bagel lover sanity prufrock_, misssalem, exvat and 2 others 5
everything bagel lover Posted March 11 Posted March 11 (edited) I'm seeing stuff on the draft about people accepting an offer with a deadline before the April 15th date from schools that didn't sign the resolution (CSU didn't) and people talking about accepting and then pulling out later which I think if that works for you that works, but it makes me even more stressed about funding at CSU because their deadline is around this week and if people are accepting the position with the intention of pulling out for a better offer that comes along (which do the best for yourself) it makes me think I shouldn't decline the CSU offer until it's closer to when decisions have been reached? But then I'd be taking up a spot for someone else to potentially fill? Idk, what's the call on that? Am I overthinking? (yes) Like I think it's really uncool of CSU and other schools to set a deadline so much earlier because it creates more tension and uncertainty for all parties. I don't want anyone to pass up a funded offer because they have to bank on an uncertain future. I also want to know that if the GTA is accepted, that I can move on and not linger excessively just in case. This is literally why they made the April 15th resolution Rant over, thank you, sorry Edited March 11 by everything bagel lover clarity Chex and pananoprodigy 2
exvat Posted March 11 Posted March 11 (edited) 16 hours ago, lurkingwriter3 said: I'm an ivy league grad and I've gotten all rejections. Shocked. To summarize what I've learned (from program professors, department FAQs, and here), 80% of admission to an MFA is work sample quality, 10% is SOP to provide context on your potential fit for the specific cohort/program, and 10% everything else—a small percentage of which MAY include alma mater. Anecdote: this cycle, with basically 3 identical applications, I got into NYU and Columbia, but was rejected outright from UMass—my own alma mater. Edited March 11 by exvat Anecdote Cdoodles and DJ Lambchop 2
zaira Posted March 11 Posted March 11 8 minutes ago, everything bagel lover said: Idk, what's the call on that? Am I overthinking? (yes) This is such a tough situation to be in. I don't know if there's a perfect answer tbh. In situations like this you need to do what's right for you, put your own mask on before assisting others, etc. If you're waiting on GTA funding for CSU, I'd say continue holding out as long as you can, and if need be, yeah, accept the offer by the deadline with the knowledge you might have to pull out of the offer later should the GTA funding fall short. At least I think that's the scenario you're working with here? I might have missed something. Ultimately it's not your fault that their system is set up this way. I wouldn't feel guilty if you need to sit on your other offers until you know for sure what the CSU situation is. People on waitlists are aware that it can take a while to move. You don't have to feel guilty! everything bagel lover 1
tomat0tomat0 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 (edited) maybe we should start placing bets on what schools we think'll say something today. any guesses? i've assumed rejections but technically still haven't heard back from: JHU (still!), WashUstLouis, notre dame, iowa, NYU, UTexas NWP, rutgers-N, and last but not least UVA-- anybody else in a similar spot? still waiting on Brown, rutgers-C, UofMiami, and UofFlorida too. manifesting those 🙏 edit:typo Edited March 11 by tomat0tomat0 misssalem 1
VOID DARLING Posted March 11 Posted March 11 wondering why the brown poetry notifs still haven't dropped!!!!!!!! Tuxedocat 1
crossingmyfingers1212 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 any fiction news from UVA, Brown, or UT Knoxville? Losing hope
nauseated Posted March 11 Posted March 11 1 minute ago, tomat0tomat0 said: maybe we should start placing bets on what schools we think'll say something today. any guesses? i've assumed rejections but technically still haven't heard back from: JHU (still!), WashUstLouis, notre dame, iowa, NYU, UTexas NWP, rutgers-N, and last but not least UVA-- anybody else in a similar spot? still waiting on Brown, rutgers-C, UofMiami, and UofFlorida. manifesting those 🙏 No word from NWP, Brown ORRR JHU! Want to send a fruit basket to whoever does admin at Michener for at least giving me a clean rejection tomat0tomat0, bucket and prufrock_ 3
Hjanep Posted March 11 Posted March 11 5 minutes ago, nauseated said: No word from NWP, Brown ORRR JHU! Want to send a fruit basket to whoever does admin at Michener for at least giving me a clean rejection Yeah I’m waiting on my hard Rs from NYU, Iowa and JHU, plus brown, uva, uci, Montana. I’m assuming goose egg for me this year but we’ll see tomat0tomat0 and Jane Wyman 2
prufrock_ Posted March 11 Posted March 11 6 minutes ago, nauseated said: No word from NWP, Brown ORRR JHU! Want to send a fruit basket to whoever does admin at Michener for at least giving me a clean rejection I'm in the same spot w/ those three. "I've never met this man in my life" - JHU to all of us, somehow. misssalem, bucket, tomat0tomat0 and 3 others 5 1
tomat0tomat0 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 7 minutes ago, nauseated said: No word from NWP, Brown ORRR JHU! Want to send a fruit basket to whoever does admin at Michener for at least giving me a clean rejection right!!!! i don't understand what's so difficult about emailing a rejection?! and i Really don't understand how they decide what order their "batches" are sent out in. literally shoutout to syracuse, michigan, and michener for at least being efficient with their cruelty lmao. i fear i sound rude complaining so much but also like. cmon. pananoprodigy, spewilicious, Hjanep and 2 others 5
prufrock_ Posted March 11 Posted March 11 6 minutes ago, tomat0tomat0 said: right!!!! i don't understand what's so difficult about emailing a rejection?! and i Really don't understand how they decide what order their "batches" are sent out in. literally shoutout to syracuse, michigan, and michener for at least being efficient with their cruelty lmao. i fear i sound rude complaining so much but also like. cmon. there's two ways i simultaneously look at it: 1) as long as it's before april 15th, then they're not 'late'. We shouldn't technically know that other people already got in/waitlisted/declined. we only know because we're anxious little freaks (affectionate). 2) they probably know we know yet still they aren't putting us out of our misery so its fair to be upset. tomat0tomat0 1
bucket Posted March 11 Posted March 11 brown, you’re killing me here… Hjanep, _redrabbit7 and writeordie 3
misssalem Posted March 11 Posted March 11 (edited) 13 minutes ago, bucket said: brown, you’re killing me here… Girll, Brown and UVA are putting me through it rn Edited March 11 by misssalem Hjanep and bucket 2
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