snowcapk Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 was hoping that every day that went by that I was NOT notified was a good sign. But I guess not? I consider myself something of a NSF result notification hobbyist... A few years ago someone uploaded two copies of their personal statement, omitting the research proposal by accident: Sinking feeling develops as I read my ratings sheet, seeing "uploaded wrong file" and "missing Research Plan." I look at my submitted application, and my personal statement is there in place of my research plan. On a brighter note, my broader impacts were both 'Excellent.' Despite the obvious DQ, menzies was notified on the same day as everyone else. Ineligible applications are supposedly notified sometime between November and February, but evidently not always. Otherwise we all hear back on the same day...and apparently that's what's meant by "as promptly as possible." ::giggle:: menses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanglish Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Ineligible applications are supposedly notified sometime between November and February, but evidently not always. Otherwise we all hear back on the same day...and apparently that's what's meant by "as promptly as possible." Yeah, the man on the phone at their offices said that the ineligible people had already been notified, and that everyone else, regardless of whether they won or not, would be notified by email at the same time and date. On the downside, though, he also said that it would be early April this year, and almost certainly not in March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_ruth Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 maybe we should start an NSF news phone or email tree? you know, in case of hackers like last year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowblossom2 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Is there somewhere online were we can view proposals/statements of previous winners or did you just ask people you knew? I'm going crazy just wanting to know either way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_ruth Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 I had been googling for weeks and found a handful. Don't have any of the links handy now, but they are out there to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowblossom2 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Yeah, I've been trying to and while I've found some hard science examples, I haven't been able to find any for the social sciences (or sociology in particular)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_ruth Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 I wasn't able to find any social science ones either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anth Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Any news or thoughts on how the stimulus package will affect the 2009 grfp if at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartshorneBoy Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 This was just sent out over the National Scholarship listserv: Thank you for your interest in the National Science Foundation (NSF) Graduate Research Fellowship Program (GRFP). We are still waiting to find out exactly how many awards will be made. We actually would expect the announcement date to be either the very end (31 March) or, more likely, early April. It is almost certain that the awards will not be finalized next week. If you have any further questions, please contact this office toll-free at (866) 673-4737, via postal mail at the address below, or via email at info@nsfgrfp.org Sincerely, GRF Operations Center 1818 N Street NW Suite T-50 Washington, DC 20036-2479 Website: www.fastlane.nsf.gov/grfp/ www.nsfgrfp.org Good luck waiting, guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowcapk Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Did anyone else notice this page showing that the NSF's EHR got a cool $50 million more than they requested for the 2009 budget? The GRFP accounts for ~20% of the EHR budget so maybe we will see some of that surplus. Since the budget request included a 33% increase in GRFP funding, I guess we're guaranteed some more awards this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scigrad Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I don't think it would be wise for NSF to just start handing out awards all willy-nilly. We have to be brutally honest with ourselves and realize that some proposals don't get funded for a reason. To lower the bar because NSF has some cash laying around would be detrimental to the award itself. Just my .02. edit: I'm sure I'll eat my words when I don't get funded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexTurtleGrad Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I don't really think that the increase in funded proposals really translates to "willy nilly" funding... Only the top 10% of people who apply are funded currently (as is my understanding), so even an increase to the top 20% of proposals being funded would still be guaranteeing good projects. It would decrease the prestige of the fellowship a bit, but I think it would help more than it hurts. Additionally, just because NSF doesn't fund a project doesn't mean its not going to be done (I'm still doing my research no matter what - just determines if I can eat regularly or not ). So those projects that are not funded for a reason would likely still fall below the 20% mark and would likely be partly funded by the home institution anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkpate Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 more money for GRFP awards could mean a larger number of absolute awards, but wouldn't necessarily raise the percentage of successful applications if more people applied overall. I know a couple people who are leaning towards staying in school for another degree mostly because they don't want to have to search for a job just yet; does anybody know if more people head to grad school in hard economic times? I remember seeing a phdcomics that showed that the number of engineering phd students varied roughly monotonically with unemployment.... and if people do head to grad school more in hard times, there might be more GRFP applicants overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexTurtleGrad Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 While I think that would be the case for subsequent years, I don't think this year had an increased number of applicants - meaning a higher percentage of successful applications. I do remember seeing the same phdcomic about that, which might explain why the government is dumping more money into research - woot! Next year, will probably see more applicants if there are increased number of funded individuals, evening it all out again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clementines Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Has anyone received any notifications from the grfp list-serv? none here, but i thought i was signed up... what's this national scholarship list-serv? thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BioC Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 And the waiting continues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
math123 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 If the past few years are any indication, they should be making a slip-up sometime soon. I keep trying that html trick from last year. Eventually, I'm convinced, it will work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bioangele Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Just keep us updated on your hacker progress math123!!! We appreciate your skills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexTurtleGrad Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 What is this html trick you speak of? And is it really wise to go through blocked areas on national organization websites (even if they are poorly designed)? Especially if you do want to get funded ... The waiting is killing me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
math123 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I'm not hacking anything. I'm just editing the html file to allow me to see what's already there (albeit poorly hidden); nothing more, nothing less. The trick is explained in the previous year's thread if you are interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qpd Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 It shows 2009 awards by default, though. So I don't think it's really necessary. They probably changed that to prevent exactly this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
math123 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 It's just a facade. Even after they put the info onto their server, the "default" award list won't be populated until they change the html to allow "2009" to appear in the drop-down menu. Point is, you catch them in between. It may not work, but it did last year. It gives me something to do. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alh126 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 so we should know in about a week, right? I'm so tired of waiting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
math123 Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Last year's rating sheets have been disabled today. Maybe things are imminent?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BioC Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Arghhh...How much more do we have to wait?? Has anyone look at those budget reports from NSF to see if there is something regarding the GRFP? The last one I saw was from March 18, but there was nothing relevant there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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