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I found out today that a paper I wrote was accepted at a conference for presentation & proceedings. This is great, but the conference is in a language I do not speak, and I will not be doing the presentation.

The presenter (originally the second author) translated the entire paper into the appropriate language and offered to do the presentation if the paper was accepted at this conference. Consequently, I agreed to switch positions and I am now second author.

My question is, can I put this paper on my CV? And if so, what heading would I put it under? Could I still count it as a conference presentation if I didn't present it?

Thanks!

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Oh yes. I'd list it under "presentations," even though you didn't "speak the words" at the conference, you created the work and your colleague presented it. That's what collaboration is all about :)

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The presenter (originally the second author) translated the entire paper into the appropriate language and offered to do the presentation if the paper was accepted at this conference. Consequently, I agreed to switch positions and I am now second author.

Thanks!

But it you wrote the paper and your co-author only contributed a bit, should he/she be the first author only because he/she has translated the article?? Is it fair? The ideas are mostly yours, aren't they?

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But it you wrote the paper and your co-author only contributed a bit, should he/she be the first author only because he/she has translated the article?? Is it fair? The ideas are mostly yours, aren't they?

The ideas are mine and the paper was only subjected to a few cursory reviews by my colleague, but I had submitted the paper to two conferences prior to this and both times it was rejected. The paper is based on empirical research and has good hypothesis development (according most of the reviewers) but the methodology is inherently flawed. The methodology was developed primarily by my colleague, but as a Master's student in his first few months of study, I was not in a position to comment on how the study was set up. Furthermore, my colleague secured the sample and funded the entire project (I was even paid in the form of an RAship to help conduct the research). My "colleague" is a tenured professor, by the way, although by now that should be obvious.

So I don't think it is really fair, but to be honest I felt as though the paper was a lost cause and just wanted to have it accepted somewhere so I could move on to different projects. I conceded to swapping first authorship with this professor as a result.

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So I don't think it is really fair, but to be honest I felt as though the paper was a lost cause and just wanted to have it accepted somewhere so I could move on to different projects. I conceded to swapping first authorship with this professor as a result.

I see...

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I forgot to mention, thanks for the response psych21.

And thank you for the link natsteel. Interesting read. I don't feel like that OP in that thread, thankfully. I'm happy that the paper was accepted - was just confused about how to indicate my role in it on my CV.

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Why not just add it to your CV under 'presentations' with a "(presented in [language] by [person] of [institution])" appended?

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Why not just add it to your CV under 'presentations' with a "(presented in [language] by [person] of [institution])" appended?

You mean add the English paper with me as first author to my CV with that information appended?

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You mean add the English paper with me as first author to my CV with that information appended?

Yeah, if you felt it appropriate. Or list the paper's title in the new language with the new order of authors, and then add the bit about 'presented by', maybe? Just a thought (or two * grins *).

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I don't know what the standards are in your field, but in mine, full conference papers (as opposed to abstracts) and journal papers are both peer-reviewed (and both counted in things like faculty productivity measurements), and would both go under "Publications". I wouldn't list it under "Presentations" unless I was the one presenting.

Edited to add: If conference papers are not considered "real publications" in your field, then perhaps you could have a separate CV section just for conference papers. Either way, I do think it should go on your CV in some fashion.

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