Babar_Suleman Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 ^ Yeah, I'm thinking Fulbright too. Would you say going to a top school (CMU in my case) is a good investment even if my dad was rich? Like I dunno. I keep thinking if it's worth the total buck even If i had the ability to pay for the whole thing myself.
Song Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 ^ Yeah, I'm thinking Fulbright too. Would you say going to a top school (CMU in my case) is a good investment even if my dad was rich? Like I dunno. I keep thinking if it's worth the total buck even If i had the ability to pay for the whole thing myself. Well, that's really up to you - after all, your money is your business. I can say that in my opinion, education is the best way to spend one's money. In my case - I will be spending money I don't have - but I'm able to stay in the States, work and pay it back [not that it will be easy]. If you're planning on going back to your country after you graduate, but you think you can already get a good job there right now - then you should ask yourself if the extra education and the experience of living abroad are worth that amount of money. And ask yourself if with the salaries payed in your country, it is possible to cover the expenses of this education over a reasonable period of time. kazoo 1
Babar_Suleman Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 ^ The thing with Fulbright is that I'd have to return home for two years right after I graduate. That probably really hampers your chances of starting a career in the US later on, no? I do plan on staying/working in the US but if my mother needs me to take care of her by the time I finish my degree, I might head straight back home. And then I'd have paid a hundred thousand dollars and still be in the same position as I would be with an all-expenses paid Fulbright study. And then there's the possibility that if I decline my acceptance, I might not win the Fulbright- or win it and have them order me to attend a school other than CMU (which is my dream school/program). I would probably be able to break even in 10 - 15 years if I worked in my country after I graduate. I'm guessing employed designers in the US could make a total of $100,000 in 2 - 5 years? This is a very complex decision for me and I'm thinking long and hard about it.
cxxxxxx Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Do Pakistan have a Fulbright which fully funds study? in the UK they only offer up to $25,000 for the first year only, but I believe this may have changed this year. Also I don't think they order anyone to do anything. They advise you to apply to a range of schools based on what you want and what they thing you are likely to get into and what they think are likely to be funded. I had no problem and they were happy to let me go ahead to apply to CalArts and SVA, in fact I half wish they had been stricter on advising me on programs as now I'm in a difficult position of having an offer from my 'dream' school but no funds to support it. Again though, it doesn't bother me about returning to UK and if I was from a different country I would be considering ways of staying after I;d graduated. Are there a lot of people applying for MFAs as a route to find work/career in the US?
Babar_Suleman Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) ^ Clearly the graduate Fulbright program in the UK is very different from the one in Pakistan. Here, you mention your field of interest and 'preferred' programs and schools on your app. Then if you get selected for the Fulbright, THEY apply on your behalf and decide where you eventually go. That could or could not be your preferred school. And yes, it's an all-expenses-paid scholarship covering 2 years of graduate study. The objective of the Fulbright grant is to improve the understanding between citizens of two nations. And I think it wouldn't be wrong to say that there is more room for improvement of understanding between Pakistanis and Americans than there is between the Brits and Americans. Edited March 27, 2012 by Babar_Suleman
cxxxxxx Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 Wow! If definitely go for it! It sounds amazing, 2 years tuition and living costs would be a dream!
Babar_Suleman Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 ^ Don't say that. It makes me feel bad coz I'm now leaning towards paying for my studies. The thing with Fulbright is that there is no guarantee that I would win it (though I have a solid chance) and they will send me to my dream school/program. Also returning to your home country and being stuck there for two years has some serious implications that a number of Fulbrighters aren't happy about.
cxxxxxx Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 Haha well I guess only you can know what's best for you! I hope you get the funding, if it's any consolation I'm probably going to have to turn down my dream school AND go home after 2 years!
Babar_Suleman Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 Somebody else's misfortune should never be a consolation for ourselves, though. Hope things work out well for you too.
Jun182 Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 It's April.2 Has anyone received a financial aid email from CalArts?
Song Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 It's April.2 Has anyone received a financial aid email from CalArts? Nope, still waiting too.
miyamoto81 Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 Cal Arts just sent out their financial aid info . . . just a heads up.
thisandthat Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 Cal Arts just sent out their financial aid info . . . just a heads up. and if its anything like mine, i would advise a tin helmet and possibly some kevlar. miyamoto81 1
miyamoto81 Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 Ha! I concur with that, my friend! and if its anything like mine, i would advise a tin helmet and possibly some kevlar.
thisandthat Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 Ha! I concur with that, my friend! It costs less to join the real mafia, never mind the calarts one. miyamoto81 1
miyamoto81 Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 It costs less to join the real mafia, never mind the calarts one. Yeah . . . it's fairly ridiculous if you think about it.
mica_c Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 Yeah . . . it's fairly ridiculous if you think about it. Just got mine too... so small... well at least they offered some, CCA did not offer anything at all.
zaquon Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 anyone get the big bucks? It's bad form to talk about offers at the school you're probably going to, but anyone who's not going, do tell.
miyamoto81 Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 Sure as hell wasn't me. I'd better start looking into selling organs . . . anyone get the big bucks? It's bad form to talk about offers at the school you're probably going to, but anyone who's not going, do tell.
mica_c Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 (edited) I still love CalArts anyway. LOL. My boss/mentor of 6 years went there, and this awesome awesome awesome design studio wouldn't exist if it weren't for his CalArts experience. Don't think I'll be going though. Edited April 3, 2012 by mica_c
Ruby Chen Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 I'm also waiting for the financial aid... crossing my fingers for it !!! CalArts is my dream school and comparing with school in NY with scholarship, it still costs less in CA btw, I've received a large number this morning from a school that I decide not to go... haha... (why not calarts!!! yelling in my heart...)
cxxxxxx Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 Well that's my dream crushed. Financial info received and the rumours are true.
thisandthat Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Well that's my dream crushed. Financial info received and the rumours are true. you and me both, sometimes you wonder what its all about. It can't be great for the people that pick us either, that's their ideal class gone. A bit of a strange one. miyamoto81 1
mica_c Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 I wonder how many kids will actually go to CalArts this year considering the state of global economy??? miyamoto81 1
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