Professor-Student Relationships: How Close Is Too Close?

[DontHate]

... I was compared to a Nazi several pages back. This is the only time I have referred to personal attacks but, yeah, that was a big one. I'm not always talking about you, donthate, promise.

Plus, yeah, when we're talking about whether or not their is room in the discussion for non-normative sexual identity, that IS about my person. Sometimes they do actually overlap. Unfortunately, acknowledging that opinions and arguments are not free from humans and feelings IS a feminine trait. I possess that trait.

Ok so you're a girl who is a lesbian. Amiright amiright?

[practical cat]

"Well, I think we've just proven that we aren't actually talking about whether one is male or female, but rather whether one is masculine or feminine. Which, as any good gender theorist can tell you, is performed regardless of biology."

This.

Era sorry guys I have no idea why gradcafe won't let me actually quote things today.

Edited December 21, 2012 by girl who wears glasses

[gilbertrollins]

... I was compared to a Nazi several pages back. This is the only time I have referred to personal attacks but, yeah, that was a big one. I'm not always talking about you, donthate, promise.

Plus, yeah, when we're talking about whether or not their is room in the discussion for non-normative sexual identity, that IS about my person. Sometimes they do actually overlap. Unfortunately, acknowledging that opinions and arguments are not free from humans and feelings IS a feminine trait. I possess that trait.

Scratch that. Transgendered pre-op.

[practical cat]

This is such a hilariously disturbing situation. Playing "guess gwwg's identity" is the nastiest thing that has ever happened to me on the Internet. Seriously guys, keep being bullies. It's cool.

[gilbertrollins]

HEY YOU GUYS: how normal is it for your prof to sign off his email to you by saying "lots of kisses"?

= I propose that we have sexual intercourse in the near future.

[lisajay]

HEY YOU GUYS: how normal is it for your prof to sign off his email to you by saying "lots of kisses"?

 

your prof reminds me of my friend's ex-wife. "keeess keeess keeess"

 

also: i now want to go home & watch the goonies.

[gilbertrollins]

You want to interpret every opinion in a discussion as a personal attack on your feelings, and you're surprised that nobody likes having a discussion with you. Is that right?

Elevated hand slap.

[dazedandbemused]

You want to interpret every opinion in a discussion as a personal attack on your feelings, and you're surprised that nobody likes having a discussion with you. Is that right?

Well gee, I wouldn't say EVERYBODY. I think it's just you, econosocio, and DontHate. I won't try to speak for you though, and I'd appreciate the same courtesy.

[practical cat]

I'm bothered that it even matters at all. It shouldn't.

[Two Espressos]

I think I've been lurking long enough to have known you to indicate, two espressos. I think.

 

Oh?  If you want to take a stab at my gender (or not, as this is all pretty superfluous), shoot!  I'll tell you if you're correct or not.  I'm kinda curious, actually.

[practical cat]

No one is man-bashing. Promise that bothers me too!

For what it's worth, my username -- regardless of whether or not it is descriptive of my identity -- is from a poem. Because I am a lit nerd.

[practical cat]

"Oh? If you want to take a stab at my gender (or not, as this is all pretty superfluous), shoot! I'll tell you if you're correct or not. I'm kinda curious, actually."

Nah. I like your kind of gender-irrelevant identity here. (Which is why I may have filed a comment away actually. I am just as guilty of wanting to know, I guess?)

Edited December 21, 2012 by girl who wears glasses

[DontHate]

choosing a picture of dorothy parker as your avatar and calling yourself a "girl who wears glasses" kind of makes it seem like you want to be identified as a girl...

[gilbertrollins]

I'm bothered that you weren't bothered by the same thing a few pages ago in this thread when people were berated for being male and thus regarded as unqualified to participate in this discussion.

Can I get an amen? "AMEN!" Can I get a hallelujah? "Hallelujah!"

I mean, really folks. When it comes down to it, outside all of our careful pretentious language -- a substantial portion of people I've been arguing with here are upset that a man has called into question the salience of male professor / female student relationships, assumed that I make the points I do merely because I'm a man, and have for the last four pages attacked my position solely on that.

I mean, seriously. Grow up.

[DontHate]

two espressos: guy

[Two Espressos]

Nah. I like your kind of gender-irrelevant identity here. (Which is why I may have filed a comment away actually. I am just as guilty of wanting to know, I guess?)

 

I'm wondering which comment you've filed away? Hm...  I know you like the gender-irrelevance, but...

 

two espressos: guy

 

Correct.

Edited December 21, 2012 by Two Espressos

[practical cat]

And that's fine if I'm identified as such but I don't have any stake in that being true. As I have said, I am usually quite careful to remain fairly neutral in presentation but not here. The only reason I even asked you, donthate, is I wondered if I had actually indicated anywhere. (I totally may have and even probably did in this thread!!) I'm being cagey now because, honestly, because I can.

I have a particular love of that poem. She's hilarious in general but that one is special to me.

[practical cat]

<p></p><blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Two Espressos" data-cid="1057888312" data-time="1356053480"><p>I'm wondering which comment you've filed away? Hm... &nbsp;I know you like the gender-irrelevance, but...</p>

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<p>&nbsp;</p>

<p>Correct.</p></blockquote><p></p>

Nooooooooo. It was probably forever ago. I have been lurking around here for about three years now, (Maybe the last time this came up?)

[gilbertrollins]

There it is ladies, smug white smile and all. Disregard the graffiti in the background - I've since realized the errors in my ways and now only hang out to plan the systematic oppression of marginalized groups -- English Lit discussants working on gender issues, mainly.

[Two Espressos]

If I have to choose between spending a night with a giant semi-educated cockroach and a Literature PhD, I'd choose the invertebrate.

 

Ouch.  Notwithstanding your curt, overgeneralized disregard of an entire discipline, I'll give you props for being memorable.

[lisajay]

hard to tell on my screen, but you appear to be a ginger, so i'd say you classify as marginalized yourself.

[gilbertrollins]

hard to tell on my screen, but you appear to be a ginger, so i'd say you classify as marginalized yourself.

Single tear.

[DontHate]

aww he's cute

[dazedandbemused]

I also tend to be cagey about gender on the internet because I like seeing how people engage with me based solely on my performance. Which isn't to say that I'm "pretending" online, just that I think the anonymity makes discussion easier and less "boyz are stupid" and "girls are such sluts" than often happens on your average forum or even comment thread.

[gilbertrollins]

*stands again, shoulders back, ready to argue from newly-discovered privileged perspective*

Edited December 21, 2012 by econosocio