smurpy2 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I'm trying to choose between two great programs (at least, i think they're great). I'm taking into consideration every factor I can think of (funding, faculty, 'fit,' cohort, atmosphere, location, you name it). And, of course, job placement. To my finding, this last factor is really a bundle of things: 1. What is the statistical placement rate of people in academic positions? 2. How many of these positions are tenure track or other desirable setups (meaning not academia's version of cheap, abused labor)? 3. How does the program go about professionalizing students? At the moment, i'm most interested in the last point. The programs that I'm looking at seem to have diametrically opposed philosophies about how to best professionalize students for the job market. Though they both have structured, mentored approaches, they simply each take a different tact. University A: Expects students to teach a lot through the degree and does not advise that students go on the market before diss. has been defended. This program tells students to wait until they are finished with their project--then, when they are done, degree in hand, the students go on the market in an additional year at the univeristy while they serve as postdoctoral lecturers (with relatively minimal teaching loads). They think students who have taught a lot and taught widely in different areas--and who wait that extra year before going on the market--do best. University B: Expects students to teach, but much less than Uni. A. In fact, students teach only when/if they must to meet stipend requirements. Students are expected to finish diss. and go on the job market at the same time. Though this may initially be more work, students are though to do best when they are shaping their professional scholarship in light of their job search. In this sense, the diss and the student's resume/portfolio are designed more deliberately as a package. According to Uni. B., waiting even a year may actually hurt your chances by marking your dissertation as 'stale'-- the longer you wait, the harder it is. I'm intrigued because the schools seem so different, and, yet, they both do (relatively) well in today's market. Their results are quite comparable. I'd love to hear anyone's thoughts about the 'philosophies' as I've set them out. Whether you're in a position similar to me or you've been on the market, let's hear what you have to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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