ineedwine Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 Cries I'm ok i guess Opens yet another bottle of wine I second that. PreciselyTerrified 1
overoverover Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 Just checked out and all my references are in due place. It's finally over! Fantastic! I wish you the best of luck this season. You seem like a fantastic candidate and, even if we might be competition, I want you to do well! reixis 1
reixis Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 Fantastic! I wish you the best of luck this season. You seem like a fantastic candidate and, even if we might be competition, I want you to do well! Thanks! Hope things go well for you too!
NathanKellen Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 Nastasya, I recommend Mike Genesereth's logic class on Coursera. I don't know when he'll be teaching it again, but it's a great class. It also covers relational and meta-logic far more thoroughly than most philosophy logic courses do. https://www.coursera.org/courses?query=logic Or if you like, you can audit my online Intro to Logic course at Rutgers. (This isn't an open invitation...it's a full class, so I can't take on many more people.) I'm using Language, Proof, and Logic (2nd edition), which is an expensive book, but it's worth it for the great software. If you're interested, PM me. I've looked at both Genesereth's and Restall's courses and prefer Restall's - have you seen it?. He also has a series of advanced videos available online which can be used to go along with the two Coursera courses. PreciselyTerrified 1
Nastasya_Filippovna Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 Nastasya, I recommend Mike Genesereth's logic class on Coursera. I don't know when he'll be teaching it again, but it's a great class. It also covers relational and meta-logic far more thoroughly than most philosophy logic courses do. https://www.coursera.org/courses?query=logic Or if you like, you can audit my online Intro to Logic course at Rutgers. (This isn't an open invitation...it's a full class, so I can't take on many more people.) I'm using Language, Proof, and Logic (2nd edition), which is an expensive book, but it's worth it for the great software. If you're interested, PM me. PreciselyTerrified thank you so much for taking the time to provide this information! A self-paced course like that would be perfect right now and I think I may very well do that! My logic course in school was unfortunately with a lot of nonmajors and my professor was wonderful, but he really slowed the pace down for them and we failed to cover a lot of important material. I have some serious catching up to do! PreciselyTerrified 1
Establishment Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 PreciselyTerrified thank you so much for taking the time to provide this information! A self-paced course like that would be perfect right now and I think I may very well do that! My logic course in school was unfortunately with a lot of nonmajors and my professor was wonderful, but he really slowed the pace down for them and we failed to cover a lot of important material. I have some serious catching up to do! Don't forget the Holy Grail for logical progression: http://www.logicmatters.net/tyl/ isostheneia, aojfifjoaisjaiosdj, PreciselyTerrified and 2 others 4 1
isostheneia Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Don't forget the Holy Grail for logical progression: http://www.logicmatters.net/tyl/ How have I never seen this before... this is a fantastic resource. Many thanks.
overoverover Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 How have I never seen this before... this is a fantastic resource. Many thanks. Seriously, Peter Smith is the man. Though I think he was a little tough when he reviewed Enderton's A Mathematical Introduction to Logic, which is the book I used in my mathematical logic course. I really liked it, but I also had an amazing professor who sort of guided us through it, and (I think) Smith reviews books with the idea that you'd be reading them yourself, without an instructor. I guess I don't have a real complaint, then!
isostheneia Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Seriously, Peter Smith is the man. Though I think he was a little tough when he reviewed Enderton's A Mathematical Introduction to Logic, which is the book I used in my mathematical logic course. I really liked it, but I also had an amazing professor who sort of guided us through it, and (I think) Smith reviews books with the idea that you'd be reading them yourself, without an instructor. I guess I don't have a real complaint, then! I used Enderton as well and liked it a lot. I think he has a point that it's a bit tough sledding at times, but it still doesn't seem too bad if you read it patiently and carefully.
PreciselyTerrified Posted January 15, 2015 Author Posted January 15, 2015 PreciselyTerrified thank you so much for taking the time to provide this information! A self-paced course like that would be perfect right now and I think I may very well do that! My logic course in school was unfortunately with a lot of nonmajors and my professor was wonderful, but he really slowed the pace down for them and we failed to cover a lot of important material. I have some serious catching up to do! Nathan's suggestion looks good too, since it's running in April. I haven't taken that one. Don't forget the Holy Grail for logical progression: http://www.logicmatters.net/tyl/ Awesome!
overoverover Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 One week or so before the madness begins in earnest, right? And of course there's a relevant xkcd for it: dr. t, PreciselyTerrified, museum_geek and 3 others 6
reixis Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 I had a dream last night that I was visiting one of the programs I have applied to. It's already happening, haha. Anyway, this would be a good time to find out about my hidden premonitory skills. overoverover 1
PreciselyTerrified Posted January 16, 2015 Author Posted January 16, 2015 My original faux backup plan was to become a barista in New Zealand, but evidently it's more difficult to get a N.Z. work visa than it is to get into a philosophy program. Go figure! a_for_aporia 1
psm1580b Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 How have I never seen this before... this is a fantastic resource. Many thanks. I have to add, read the first few chapters of "Godel, Escher, Bach: The Eternal Golden Braid" by Douglas Hofstadter. I learned more about the development of logical systems from this book than I could have ever imagined.
Page228 Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 My original faux backup plan was to become a barista in New Zealand, but evidently it's more difficult to get a N.Z. work visa than it is to get into a philosophy program. Go figure! One of the baristas from the cafe I frequent actually just left this month to go do that. Now I wonder how she managed it. PreciselyTerrified 1
Infinite Zest Posted January 17, 2015 Posted January 17, 2015 (edited) I have to add, read the first few chapters of "Godel, Escher, Bach: The Eternal Golden Braid" by Douglas Hofstadter. I learned more about the development of logical systems from this book than I could have ever imagined. I just finished I Am a Strange Loop! Edited January 17, 2015 by Infinite Zest
dgswaim Posted January 17, 2015 Posted January 17, 2015 I just finished I Am a Strange Loop! I read Strange Loop a couple of years ago. I don't know what you thought, but I was disappointed. Way too much analogy and metaphor, not much argument or substance. Don't get me wrong, Hofstadter is a wonderful writer and it's quite the aesthetic pleasure to read as he waxes poetical on any number of issues... but I guess I was expecting something meatier.
psm1580b Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 I just finished I Am a Strange Loop! His books are amazing, and what a brilliant insight into the inner workings of logical and mathematical systems. Really brilliant at constructing the picture and making the beauty of these systems clear. GEB is especially good at that--plus it has some great material on paradoxes which I absolutely love. I read an article recently wherein the writer was discussing how the basic concepts of multivariable logic actually appear in Buddhist texts, and how those ways of approaching certain paradoxes or questions which we think are uniquely 20th century philosophical creations are actually not. The writer did a good job of constructing what the logical language of Buddhism would look like. Found the article!
Monadology Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 His books are amazing, and what a brilliant insight into the inner workings of logical and mathematical systems. Really brilliant at constructing the picture and making the beauty of these systems clear. GEB is especially good at that--plus it has some great material on paradoxes which I absolutely love. I read an article recently wherein the writer was discussing how the basic concepts of multivariable logic actually appear in Buddhist texts, and how those ways of approaching certain paradoxes or questions which we think are uniquely 20th century philosophical creations are actually not. The writer did a good job of constructing what the logical language of Buddhism would look like. Found the article! The author of that article, Graham Priest, is awesome! He is one of the main proponents of dialetheism. I heartily recommend anyone, especially the staunchest proponents of the law of non-contradiction, read In Contradiction or Doubt Truth to Be a Liar. Beyond the Limits of Thought is also really fun metaphilosophy/history of philosophy. a_for_aporia 1
brettmullga Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 The author of that article, Graham Priest, is awesome! He is one of the main proponents of dialetheism. I heartily recommend anyone, especially the staunchest proponents of the law of non-contradiction, read In Contradiction or Doubt Truth to Be a Liar. Beyond the Limits of Thought is also really fun metaphilosophy/history of philosophy. Agreed! Graham Priest is awesome. I would suggest reading In Contradiction or the relevant sections in his Introduction to Non-Classical Logic first. Doubt Truth to Be a Liar would be a difficult introduction to Priest's thought as I read this book to answer the question 'what does it mean?' rather than 'how?' Doubt does begin with an interesting interpretation of Aristotle's Prior Analytics that may be of interest. a_for_aporia 1
Monadology Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) Agreed! Graham Priest is awesome. I would suggest reading In Contradiction or the relevant sections in his Introduction to Non-Classical Logic first. Doubt Truth to Be a Liar would be a difficult introduction to Priest's thought as I read this book to answer the question 'what does it mean?' rather than 'how?' Doubt does begin with an interesting interpretation of Aristotle's Prior Analytics that may be of interest. I think that's a good point. I started with In Contradiction, so I probably didn't realize the extent to which my reading Doubt Truth to be a Liar was being framed by In Contradiction. Edited January 18, 2015 by Monadology
Nastasya_Filippovna Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 So everytime I get the buzz on my phone that an email comes in I race to check it- and it's nothing but a damn piece of junk- examples of my disappointment: is this a decision? no, but an isaac's sandwich is 10% off. Is THIS a decision?? No, but I can sign a petition to save the north american quail. Is this a decision? No, but if I buy $200 worth of aveda hair products, I get free shipping. Just thought I'd vent a bit. LOL!
mano Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 So everytime I get the buzz on my phone that an email comes in I race to check it- and it's nothing but a damn piece of junk- examples of my disappointment: is this a decision? no, but an isaac's sandwich is 10% off. Is THIS a decision?? No, but I can sign a petition to save the north american quail. Is this a decision? No, but if I buy $200 worth of aveda hair products, I get free shipping. Just thought I'd vent a bit. LOL! hahaha :) hard times...
overoverover Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 So everytime I get the buzz on my phone that an email comes in I race to check it- and it's nothing but a damn piece of junk- examples of my disappointment: is this a decision? no, but an isaac's sandwich is 10% off. Is THIS a decision?? No, but I can sign a petition to save the north american quail. Is this a decision? No, but if I buy $200 worth of aveda hair products, I get free shipping. Just thought I'd vent a bit. LOL! That's my exact struggle. Every day around 10am our department administrator forwards emails about talks, conferences, etc. That 15 minutes of constant buzzing almost gave me a heart attack. Nastasya_Filippovna 1
isostheneia Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 I received a lovely email from the Harvard... Extension School. Why must they toy with me like this. Monadology 1
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