Determinedandnervous Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Syas said: Someone in the survey page said that UIUC did not even elaborate his/her application. Does anyone have any information about that case? I was very surprised to see that, they were really nice to me.
IndEnth Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Seems odd that they didn't look at the file, and say that so openly. Maybe the application was incomplete? Even though I was contacted by another school that didn't receive all of my materials, so... What are our chances that Berkeley will come out tonight? I've been browsing through the results page, and it really looks like they don't admit internationals, so I shouldn't even bother to check my email I guess.
bhudson Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, IndEnth said: Seems odd that they didn't look at the file, and say that so openly. Maybe the application was incomplete? Even though I was contacted by another school that didn't receive all of my materials, so... What are our chances that Berkeley will come out tonight? I've been browsing through the results page, and it really looks like they don't admit internationals, so I shouldn't even bother to check my email I guess. Have no fear- Berkeley admits plenty of international students- http://polisci.berkeley.edu/people/graduate-students Edited January 29, 2016 by bhudson
studugarte Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Do we think it's likely that the 'informal' penn state emails might turn into more formal ones today? If it's a reject I just want to know already.
IndEnth Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 36 minutes ago, bhudson said: Have no fear- Berkeley admits plenty of international students- http://polisci.berkeley.edu/people/graduate-students It's impossible to tell from that list who is an American citizen (with foreign roots), who is an international with US degree, and who is - like I am - an international without a US degree. So... judging by the results page, they at most admit those with US degrees, but internationals without seem to have almost zero chances.
Syas Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, IndEnth said: It's impossible to tell from that list who is an American citizen (with foreign roots), who is an international with US degree, and who is - like I am - an international without a US degree. So... judging by the results page, they at most admit those with US degrees, but internationals without seem to have almost zero chances. What could their rationality be for not admitting international students?
bhudson Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 1 minute ago, IndEnth said: It's impossible to tell from that list who is an American citizen (with foreign roots), who is an international with US degree, and who is - like I am - an international without a US degree. So... judging by the results page, they at most admit those with US degrees, but internationals without seem to have almost zero chances. I didn't apply there so don't know the program and know most profiles don't include a full CV- so you know more about the students there than me. However, I googled a few people and found LinkedIn profiles and personal websites. Several had degrees from Europe and Asia. Again, I don't know the program, but was just trying to make you feel better and attesting to the presence of international students there wb3060 and IndEnth 2
IndEnth Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 It's partly a funding question. I talked about it with several UC professors. The UCs in general had a policy in place that made it ridiculously expensive for departments to take in internationals. That's only changed recently, and most UCs have had a significant rise in internationals over the past two years. But my UC SB contact said that Berkeley is the one that's been slow to change that. Don't know why exactly. And of course there's probably a certain... "snobbism" about non-US degrees as well. European and especially Asian degrees are usually discounted in comparison to American ones.
IndEnth Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, bhudson said: Again, I don't know the program, but was just trying to make you feel better and attesting to the presence of international students there Thank you!
Syas Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 They could indeed choose a US citizen over a foreigner with share similar qualities due to financial reasons. However I would doubt that they have a "no international student" policy. From a utilitarian perspective, I think that the unique perspectives of international students, and their knowledge about specific countries/regions add valuable intellectual diversity, which may expand the research areas and even increase the number of publications of programs. These factors alone could make the financial costs of admitting international students worthwhile.
s1994 Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Syas said: They could indeed choose a US citizen over a foreigner with share similar qualities due to financial reasons. However I would doubt that they have a "no international student" policy. From a utilitarian perspective, I think that the unique perspectives of international students, and their knowledge about specific countries/regions add valuable intellectual diversity, which may expand the research areas and even increase the number of publications of programs. These factors alone could make the financial costs of admitting international students worthwhile. Moreover, unless the international student's letter writes have mainstream publications and renowned pedigrees (i.e. Tsinghua/Peking in China, or Tokyo/Waseda in Japan, ...), the efficacy of the letters is also diminished. Syas 1
Straightoutta Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 If I have to go through another weekend without a decision......
worryandhope Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, Straightoutta said: If I have to go through another weekend without a decision...... Agreed. Although I have decisions, just not good ones. A yes from any of my remaining possibilities would put me over the moon.
TheHopefulGrad Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 47 minutes ago, Straightoutta said: If I have to go through another weekend without a decision...... Right?! I'm so anxious...
s1994 Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, TheHopefulGrad said: Right?! I'm so anxious... At least no news is better than bad news at this juncture ...
whatwasithinking Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Anyone heard back from Davis about their funding packages?
joseon4th Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 33 minutes ago, whatwasithinking said: Anyone heard back from Davis about their funding packages? I have not, hopefully by COB. Waiting on that before replying about the visitation weekend.
whatwasithinking Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 7 minutes ago, joseon4th said: I have not, hopefully by COB. Waiting on that before replying about the visitation weekend. fingers crossed I guess...any idea on what their average package looks like?
wb3060 Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) To those people who have gotten informal acceptance emails from DGS, POI, or admissions coordinator, are you replying to those emails? I want to write back to express my excitement about the program but I was wondering what the norm was here. Edited January 29, 2016 by wb3060
BFB Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 20 minutes ago, wb3060 said: To those people who have gotten informal acceptance emails from DGS, POI, or admissions coordinator, are you replying to those emails? I want to write back to express my excitement about the program but I was wondering what the norm was here. I can say with some certainty that roughly 10-20% of the people who receive such letters respond.
Khaari Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 1 hour ago, shane94 said: So... no Duke today I assume? Looks like no Berkeley or Stanford either...
Determinedandnervous Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 I suspect next week is going to be a huge influx of decisions. With the general trend of schools releasing decisions early this year, I have a feeling that some schools may move them up from the second week of February to the first week.
IndEnth Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 17 minutes ago, Determinedandnervous said: With the general trend of schools releasing decisions early this year, I have a feeling that some schools may move them up from the second week of February to the first week. And some schools moving it back from the last day of Jan to early Feb apparently...
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