KD35 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 48 minutes ago, fredrogers3 said: Any luck in the past with people getting off the waiting list? Did they tell you you were waitlisted? What was the email like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrogers3 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, KD35 said: Did they tell you you were waitlisted? What was the email like? They basically said I was in the top 200 but not chosen. As such, it said I'm on the "alternates selection list" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD35 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Alright, it's been over 8 hours and 20 minutes since the first rejections were sent out, and many of us still don't have ours. This is just cruel at this point... threephoton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threephoton Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, fredrogers3 said: They basically said I was in the top 200 but not chosen. As such, it said I'm on the "alternates selection list" That really sucks. I'm sorry. So unfair that they can cut down the number like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natolambert Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) As another member of the group receiving final 200 but not selected because of funding, I called a couple representatives and it sounds like a contact with the DoD will be following up next week RE funding. Don't expect much, but would want more transparency in the future at least. "As you know, your application was chosen to move forward to the final step in the process: the DoD Panel Review. We regret to inform you that you were not selected as part of the 2018 class. This year we planned to award roughly 200 fellowships and only 69 were selected due to the budget. You were in the top 200 and have been placed on the alternates selection list for the fellowship. This does not guarantee that you will be awarded the fellowship but serves as notice of your ranking and your potential in the unlikely event that the DoD will select additional awardees." Edited April 13, 2018 by natolambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrogers3 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, natolambert said: As another member of the group receiving final 200 but not selected because of funding, I called a couple representatives and it sounds like a contact with the DoD will be following up next week RE funding. Don't expect much, but would want more transparency in the future at least. "As you know, your application was chosen to move forward to the final step in the process: the DoD Panel Review. We regret to inform you that you were not selected as part of the 2018 class. This year we planned to award roughly 200 fellowships and only 69 were selected due to the budget. You were in the top 200 and have been placed on the alternates selection list for the fellowship. This does not guarantee that you will be awarded the fellowship but serves as notice of your ranking and your potential in the unlikely event that the DoD will select additional awardees." So there's still some hope? Were these representatives at the DOD you spoke to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natolambert Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, fredrogers3 said: So there's still some hope? Were these representatives at the DOD you spoke to? I called my congressional representative + senators, and they sent me an email of a congressional staffer Jain Thapa who supposedly works with budgeting on DoD matters. He responded to my email saying he would follow up next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icapybara Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) I just spoke with Barb and she said all emails have gone out. She said to email ndsegf@sti-tec.com if you didn't get one. Edited April 13, 2018 by icapybara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icapybara Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 If you're still waiting on an email, maybe give them a call. She was pretty insistent that they've all gone out, and it's an error on my part that I didn't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD35 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I just called and spoke to Barb. She said that if I hadn’t received an email yet, to assume I had been rejected, but to email ndsegf@sti-tec.com to make sure. So looks like we should assume the worst, sorry guys Well, I guess I had better begin looking for industry jobs now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threephoton Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, icapybara said: If you're still waiting on an email, maybe give them a call. She was pretty insistent that they've all gone out, and it's an error on my part that I didn't get it. @icapybara were you able to find out what the outcome of your application was? I emailed and tried to call, but no response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icapybara Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, KD35 said: I just called and spoke to Barb. She said that if I hadn’t received an email yet, to assume I had been rejected, but to email ndsegf@sti-tec.com to make sure. So looks like we should assume the worst, sorry guys Well, I guess I had better begin looking for industry jobs now... Lol Barb is so done with us. She was incredibly short with me on the phone. And no, I didn't find the outcome of my application. She wouldn't tell me. Edited April 13, 2018 by icapybara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threephoton Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, icapybara said: Lol Barb is so done with us. She was incredibly short with me on the phone. And no, I didn't find the outcome of my application. She wouldn't tell me. lol sounds like we won't find out for another month then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entangled Phantoms Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 On 12/9/2017 at 9:43 AM, DiscoTech said: http://www.ndsegfellowships.org/faqs Spell check. How does it work? Web design. How does it work? I would not count on the clowns who put together this second rate website to notify ALL applicants. threephoton, warrigan and HereForTheAnticipation 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrogers3 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 56 minutes ago, natolambert said: I called my congressional representative + senators, and they sent me an email of a congressional staffer Jain Thapa who supposedly works with budgeting on DoD matters. He responded to my email saying he would follow up next week. I think this was a great idea! I just contacted my congresswoman too to gain a little more insight on the funding issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campuscat Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 No email yet either I'll assume I was rejected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenDog Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, campuscat said: No email yet either I'll assume I was rejected This is so bullshit; for these types of programs feedback is important to help young scientists and engineers grow. Fine, they dont provide that. But I at least deserve a results email in a timely fashion. Its so bullshit that I both called and emailed prior to 10 am this morning and still have no result despite the April 15th deadlines. This is how you make a generation of scientists pissed off for a lifetime at your company. mana_chique 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campuscat Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, GoldenDog said: This is so bullshit; for these types of programs feedback is important to help young scientists and engineers grow. Fine, they dont provide that. But I at least deserve a results email in a timely fashion. Its so bullshit that I both called and emailed prior to 10 am this morning and still have no result despite the April 15th deadlines. This is how you make a generation of scientists pissed off for a lifetime at your company. I'm so sorry you're dealing with this too. I guess according to others that the lady said if we didn't receive the email to assume we are rejected. It's horrible. I understand the no reviews but to not even get an email regarding the status of your application is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorjuice Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, GoldenDog said: This is so bullshit; for these types of programs feedback is important to help young scientists and engineers grow. Fine, they dont provide that. But I at least deserve a results email in a timely fashion. Its so bullshit that I both called and emailed prior to 10 am this morning and still have no result despite the April 15th deadlines. This is how you make a generation of scientists pissed off for a lifetime at your company. Or there could just be no award in the first place? There's definitely a lot that can be improved in academia, but waiting an extra week for an award decision has little practical effect on anyone, unless you let it. Edit: I should say though, never receiving a notification at all is pretty rude. But they did say business closing hours Friday and the day is not over. Edited April 13, 2018 by doctorjuice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superlative_high Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I think they're screening phone calls at this point haha. Called twice and no one picked up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenDog Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, doctorjuice said: Or there could just be no award in the first place? There's definitely a lot that can be improved in academia, but waiting an extra week for an award decision has little practical effect on anyone, unless you let it. Edit: I should say though, never receiving a notification at all is pretty rude. But they did say business closing hours Friday and the day is not over. It is past closing in their timezone and has been for nearly an hour. Let me be clear-- my issue is not waiting for a week but instead with the lack of consideration they show for students/applicants. They have a stake in this program, and thus by damaging its reputation, they have screwed themselves over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenDog Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 hour ago, natolambert said: I called my congressional representative + senators, and they sent me an email of a congressional staffer Jain Thapa who supposedly works with budgeting on DoD matters. He responded to my email saying he would follow up next week. This is a great idea. Can you share the email/correspondence you had with them so I can share similar thoughts with mine? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superlative_high Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Aren't they in the central timezone? So it's not past closing for five minutes right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenDog Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, superlative_high said: Aren't they in the central timezone? So it's not past closing for five minutes right? Ah youre right. When I had called earlier I had gone straight to voicemail. I thought I remembered from a previous correspondence that they werent CST, but their answering machine states that they are. Edit: Scratch that, still unsure. In previous emails with them, the NDSEGF employees I had emailed were out of Ohio. Edited April 13, 2018 by GoldenDog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenDog Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, DiscoTech said: As long as NDSEG offers high stipends, STI-TEC can unfortunately be as shitty as it wants. There will always be plenty of people lining up to apply for it. Let me just point out that just because someone can do something doesn't mean that it is in their best interests, that it is right, ethical, or permissible. qubitwrastler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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