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skaikru reacted to a post in a topic: Turning down all your PhD offers?
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It's a risk, but for what it's worth, I was in a similar situation as you, took the MA and ended up doing very well as a result. I think you have to figure out two things: 1. how likely are you to get into a better ranked program after the MA? 2. how much better would the higher ranked programs be in terms of placement record and catering to your intellectual interests? Question 2. is something you can figure out for yourself by researching the programs in question. Question 1. really depends on knowing your own capabilities and also thinking about what doing the MA would achieve for you in terms of improving your application. For example, in my case, I didn't have a philosophy undergrad degree, which was a major liability in getting into the top phd programs. I also felt fairly confident in my philosophical abilities, level of diligence and motivation, etc. So I knew I had what it takes to really make the most of an MA program, and I also knew that having the MA would "fill the hole" in my profile - i.e. it would give me the one thing I was missing, which was formal training in philosophy.
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It was a generic email from UBC Grad Studies with a link to the actual offer letter written by Chris Stephens
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I don't think it was trolling because I was accepted yesterday. My guess is they just started sending out offers?
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I got into Stanford yesterday! So stoked!
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Just got waitlisted at Michigan this morning!
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Yep, got my Princeton rejection.
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I got rejected from MIT too Oh well...
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Same here, rejected from ucla
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Did anyone hear back from Canadian MA programs?
cogsguy replied to Ikari Gendo's topic in Philosophy
I only applied to PhD programs. But if anyone has questions about SFU, feel free to message me. -
matchamatcha reacted to a post in a topic: Acceptance Thread
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I got into Pittsburgh HPS today! Super stoked!
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I will be doing the MA at Simon Fraser University in the fall!
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I'm on the waitlist for CUNY and Arizona. If I get off the waitlist for CUNY, there is a good chance I will take it. If not, I've declined all acceptances except Simon Fraser University (MA) and will go there.
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cogsguy reacted to a post in a topic: Your thoughts on where to accept?
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A question regarding Classical Philosophy Programs?
cogsguy replied to thatsjustsemantics's topic in Philosophy
The alternative to graded coursework is having one or more of your letter writers testify to your competence, or efforts to gain competence, in those languages. It's especially helpful if one of your letter writers does ancient philosophy. -
I didn't get shut out this year, but I can try to give some encouragement. You definitely shouldn't feel like a loser for getting shut out. There are too many factors beyond your control, and too much random noise, for rejections from philosophy programs to say something bad about you. I'm sure you've heard this plenty of times, but it's hard to get in anywhere. One thing that I think matters a lot, and unfortunately is out of your control when you apply, is pedigree. It's not just the name of the institution itself that matters, but coming from a top school gives you a better chance of getting letters from the most respected philosophers in the field. A letter from a top philosopher probably goes a lot further than a letter from someone the ad coms haven't heard of before. I remember that Eric Schwitzgebel wrote on his blog that he couldn't recall a single student from UC Riverside getting accepted to a top 15 PhD program in the past decade or so, and UC Riverside is a mid-ranked PhD program. And even if you seem to have everything going for you, you are probably going to get a lot of rejections because there are just so few spots. If you applied and got into a decent MA, then hopefully you'll have a better shot of getting into a PhD program by taking that route. But if you didn't, it might help to know that some very good MAs accept late applications - for example, I know someone who got into a Canadian MA well after the deadline. So I'd suggest looking at some of the good Canadian MAs if you think you have run out of options.
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I agree with qualiafreak. If your primary goal for getting the PhD is just the experience of doing the PhD, or if it's to teach at a community college afterwards, then go for the unranked PhD offer. But if you are looking to get a position at a research university, I think the MA gives you a better chance of getting there. My advice, in the latter case, would be to do an MA. Also, consider other options outside philosophy that would allow you to pursue your interests in case you don't get into a good PhD program out of the MA.