Anxiousapplicant01
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18 minutes ago, psychpride9 said:
Slightly off topic, but are people bringing their laptops to interview? I feel like it'd be really nice to just have your clothes and necessary papers with you, so I'm curious if people think carrying a laptop around would be necessary.
Current grad student here who interviewed several places. No one at any of my interviews had a laptop with them, but many brought a nice leather portfolio to carry copies of CVs and other papers. If you're a guy, maybe you could get away with carrying a laptop bag and having it in there just in case, but carrying one around is def. not the norm.
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16 hours ago, cosimaniehaus said:
should I wear a suit/blazer for a skype interview? or is a nice blouse fine?
Nice blouse is fine. Really anything that you would wear out of your house and not be embarrassed to be seen in during the day is probably fine.
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52 minutes ago, psychapp2016 said:
That's a good idea, I was worried it would make me look unprepared but I think having a "cheat sheet" or reminder sheet of a few things would make me feel a little more secure.
When I pulled out a notebook with pre-written questions and notes for my interview with my POI, usually people were nothing but impressed that I was so prepared.
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Usually the unique factors sections are for things like extenuating circumstances that could have impacted your performance in general. Like major things. This would be something like working full time to pay your way through school or a family illness or death that really impacted you in a major way. I don't really think that being a bad test taker is a good thing to put in this section.
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I'm a School psych phd first-year in a program with both phd and eds students (NASP and APA accredited). Feel free to ask me questions, although if they are specific about my experience that might be best addressed by PM
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This is the only book I used. Read the whole thing through the night before the test (this is the only thing I did to prepare), revisited topics that I was iffy on again the morning of the test. It is pretty good. It really hits home on the "this is what you need to know" topics. I scored around the 80th percentile (don't remember the exact score).
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Looking for a good advisor is one of the most personal parts of the application process, and the process of looking will help you narrow your interests even further. It is a great way to learn more about yourself, which is really helpful when writing your statement. It is beneficial to tackle this process yourself. It is hard, but worth it! One way to get a good jump on looking is to look at research articles (search your interest in a database like Psychinfo)that excite you and see who the authors are. See where they are, look at those programs. There might be other people there that share similar interests beyond the authors you found.
Research fit is not necessarily a deciding factor/important for PsyD programs, so things might not work the same way advisor-wise. If you are not clearly decided on PhD vs. PsyD you need to do some introspection and decide what's important to you so you can articulate it clearly in your apps. I hope this is helpful!
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Some schools have "Continuing Studies" programs that might allow you to take more classes and build on what you have done, and maybe build toward getting a second degree. If you were to do that at a new school, your GPA would be entirely new and you wouldn't have to completely start your degree over, but you could still take the advanced classes you are taking about for a GPA you could put towards a grad app. It might take a couple of years. I know people who had degrees who did this, got a second degree in psychology (not sure what the first was in), and then got into graduate programs. It won't erase what has happened, but that may be a way to show that you are serious about showing how you've improved. And usually these programs are designed for people who work as well, so you could work and save some money for grad school at the same time. Just an option to consider...I hadn't heard of this type of program until I realized that my undergrads institution had one. I'm sure there are plenty of ways to make your dream happen with a few years of work.
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There's a book called pocket guide to the DSM (or something like that) that I used in an abnormal psych course. It boils the DSM down to the main points and goes over how it works and things like that. Hope that might be helpful.
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Honestly, I do not know much about California but can try to give you some feedback based on what you said.
For your goals, it doesn't sound like you really need a PhD or psyd, so you could get your degree in a lot less time and start working with an MSW. also, psyd programs at school like Alliant are going to cost a ton and. Degrees from degree mills like Alliant are not really going to carry any sort of prestige (if you are ever going to be doing anything besides clinical practice) and likely won't be substantially more valuable than a far cheaper MSW from a school like UCLA or USC. And if you are interested in long term learning opportunities in psychology, all licensed mental health professionals have to continue learning so the learning doesn't stop at the end of the MSW program. Phd programs in general, but especially at any UC, are very competitive in clinical psych and if you don't have research aspirations than you likely won't be admitted or be happy in a phd program. For clinical, if you don't need a doctorate to accomplish your goals, the application process alone is probably not worth the headache. I would say MSW would be your best bet, and your might not even have to take the GRE so that's an added bonus.
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4 hours ago, kmtobia said:
I'm entering my fourth year as a psychology major, CSP (counseling and social change/ school psychology minor) at San Diego State University. I am a little discouraged about the application process. I originally wanted to obtain a PhD so I could have the option to work outside of a public school, but I do not have enough research experience at the moment. For this reason, I have set my sights on Ed.S programs. Can anyone in a PhD or Ed.S program tell me about their GPS, GRE scores and experience during the time they applied? This will help me understand what I need to do to become a competitive candidate for either program, because many of my experiences are not directly related to psychology or school psychology. If I decide to apply to a PhD program, I realize I will need at least an additional year of research experience after graduation. I really would've liked to get a few presentations under my belt before I apply. Also, I noticed Chapman's Ed.S program gives students the option to work towards becoming a licensed professional clinical counselor. If I would like the option to work outside of a public school, would Chapman be a better choice than the Ed.S program at San Diego State? I included a lot of information so I could get the best responses possible. Thank you!
overall GPA: 3.7 major GPA: 4.0 No GRE scores
research experience
- research trainee in NIH-funded summer biomedical research program, required to write and present a mock research proposal
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research intern in two labs at Child & Adolescent Services Research Center at Rady Children's Hospital.
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assisted with 3 different projects with a clinical and organizational psychology focus.
- Lab conducts dissemination and implementation research related to ASD community-based agencies
- Study factors of sustainment and implementation of EBPs in child therapy sessions in LA county.
- Weight loss study for children with ASD
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Tasks:
- coding / filling out rating forms
- conduct literature reviews
- data entry
- assist in the development of agency feedback forms
- conduct and transcribe interviews
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assisted with 3 different projects with a clinical and organizational psychology focus.
- No presentations or publications.
work experience
- Behavior Technician
- Science Outreach Specialist for San Diego County Office of Education (K-5 schools throughout county)
- High school percussion instructor
- Percussion clinician, experience leading percussion camps with kids across the US and overseas
Honestly, you could be pretty competitive right now for a phd program if you score well on the GRE and maybe consider trying to do some sort of independent study during your final year in undergrad. I was accepted to multiple PhD programs straight out of undergrad. I spent a summer as a research assistant and did an independent study my last semester (after I applied and was admitted to programs). As for practical experience, I taught Sunday school and volunteered for a crisis hotline starting the summer before applying. As long as you can write and talk about what you want to do and why you want to do it, you are a competitive applicant given your credentials. Understanding and being able to talk about/apply the process of conducting a study is also important. Also, being able to explain how the experiences you have and the courses you have taken have prepared you for a graduate program is key (and being able to "sell it"). Once you make if past the minimum GPA and GRE scores, they are looking for fit. I honestly viewed my personal statement as a persuasive essay. As for GPA and GRE, I had a 3.75ish when I applied and my GRE scores were 162V and 161Q. I hope this was helpful.
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I would look and see what each of your programs require and what are the average scores of people who are accepted. If you are close to that, you should be fine. Lots of programs use this test as formality (I got a very similar score, if not the exact same...it's blurry at this point, and my score was never mentioned and I got into programs with full funding and a competitive stipend) and many don't require at all. If you have a masters, there's even less to worry about. I would only worry about getting a very high score if I weren't a psych major ad only had completed undergrad. Also, if you are only retaking it for the subscores, my advisors told me those were virtually meaningless. The way they define "social psychology" vs experimental is very bizarre; I wouldn't worry about it. In general GRE scores of any kind are usable for 5 years, so unless a program specifies beyond that, that shouldn't be a problem. Definitely check to see what the requirements are for each program and you should be fine!
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It's not like there is a rush to sign up for these tests. Seats don't usually fill...sometimes people walk in literally the day of the test and register (particularly for October tests if they are unhappy with September scores). That being said, I sat for the test in October and registered in early or mid September. Signing up for this is a very minor part of your application process (most schools don't even care about this test), so it is not worth stressing over. This process is stressful enough without sweating the small stuff!
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4 hours ago, biscuitsbiscuits said:
I'll be applying to school psych PhD programs for Fall 2017, but I wanted to ask this thread a question since you are seasoned experts by this point.
This might be a silly question, but how do you know whether or not to contact potential POIs at a school before applying? It seems like a given for most clinical PhD programs, but the small number of school psych programs I've asked so far have said specifically *not* to contact faculty in advance of applying.
Did you all contact POIs before applying? How did you know whether to get in touch or not?
Thanks and congrats to everyone who got an acceptance this year!
Honestly, I didn't contact any of my POIs before applying. Maybe i would have saved some time if I had, but I have heard from friends who applied that many of these initial contacts eventually turned awkward so I am happy I didn't do it. If you have a specific reason for contacting them (to ask questions that would need to be answered before applying), then you should. I don't think it is particularly advantageous...you will have plenty of time to ask questions and get familiar with your POI if the program is interested in you.
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19 minutes ago, catsandcrochet said:
My top choice has not contacted me at all to date. I have checked their online system, and no decision has been made. I sent an email to the graduate director of the department yesterday morning and have not received a response. Is this typical? Any advice? I applied & was funded to MA program but would hate to accept and later be contacted by my top choice.
If it's a masters program, it is not unusual not to have heard by now. This is especially true if the deadline is later (like February or later). Reviewing applications takes time and they may not start looking at them until after the deadline. If you have a deadline to commit to the other program, I would call the director and let them know that they are your top choice, but you have an offer and need to respond by x date and would like to know if they can tell you where you stand. There's not much else you can do.
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Just speaking from personal experience, I had two whole semesters of W's and one W each semester following (totally in over 10 W's) and I was still accepted into multiple PhD programs in psychology. Every program I was accepted to also nominated me for a fellowship, so you can still be very competitive with many W's. No one even asked about them in interviews. Maybe I would have gotten more offers without the W's, but I would still consider my application season to be successful. Also, taking natural science classes might actually help you...having taken many math classes actually helped me since I spinned it as a way to better develop my critical thinking skills and things like that. Potential mentors were very excited about that. And you have more research experience than I do so I think you will still be pretty competitive regardless. I don't see any major red flags, so I would say go for it and see what happens.
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This program is very competitive based on what I have read. I looked into it as well (I applied this cycle and didn't end up applying to this program). I think it is particularly difficult to get in because you have to apply separately (and I think you have to be independently accepted) to the masters in public policy program, and georgetown's program is one of the best out there in public policy and its DC location probably makes it even more popular. Based on what I saw in APA guide to grad programs, some years this program accepts none of its applicants. Definitely go for it if it is your dream, but any PhD program is going to be competitive and this one in particular may be more competitive than most.
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1 hour ago, ohhappyday said:
Hey everyone, I am having the hardest time deciding where to send my deposit. I am deciding between temple, william and mary, and umass boston. My biggest factors are program reputation, safety (city), and location of the state and its salary after licensure. Since I will be getting a license at the state I will be attending the program at.
Thanks so much.
I too had narrowed it down to temple and UMass Boston. Don't know much about William and Mary, so I can't comment, but I can comment on the 2 other schools. I honestly think that there are places in both cities that aren't the safest. There are, however, safe places to live in both cities. For a program with a better fit, I would not worry too much about this because there isn't that much of a difference between the 2. People who I know who are school psychologists in PA live pretty comfortably (some grads from Temple, some from other programs), and temple has a very good reputation in the suburbs, so you wouldn't have to stay in the city. This wasn't a concern of mine as I am more research-oriented, so I do not know about UMass in this way. If it is any help, I met some of the incoming cohort at temple at admitted students day (both EdS and PhD) and everyone was so nice. It seems like there will be a decent cohort there full of smart and interesting people. Not to mention how great and kind the faculty are. I am sure you will be happy and thrive at any program you pick, so go with your intuition and pick the program that feels right and that will help you reach your goals. I liked many of the program's I visited, but one just made me feel more at home.
Best of luck!
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25 minutes ago, Anniexu said:
I am serious considering reapplying next year. I have some questions here and hope that I can get some help. Your answer will be appreciated!!
1. About SOP. Should SOP mostly focus on why I love this school? That's a suggestion one advisor gave me. I doubt it. My SOP mostly focus on how much I love my major and what I have done. I do have one paragraph describing how my research interest fit the program and the faculty I choose but it seems not enough.
2.About the funding. As I'm applying for master( because I don't think I am qualified for PHD yet lol), I can't get funding in most of the situations. I would like to know how others deal with this expense issue, taking loans, doing part-time or something else? I‘m not sure the salary my job offer( though I haven't got one yet) can cover my two years expense in the program.
3.About research experience. I'll graduate in June as a bachelor. Most of the research related jobs are only open to person with master's degree so it'll be hard for me to get more research experience to strengthen my appication. What's the suggestion?
I have read through the posts in this topic, most of you guys are amazing! Never give up hope, cheer people up, etc.
I don't know whether it's because of the culture difference, as an international student, I find it a little hard to start over with all these tests, essays and others. I also need to worry about the money thing.. I don't know how you guys going through all these. It's encouraging and I'm sure I'll be fine eventually!
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Hi! For SOP, here is a great article my advisor gave me for how to break it up:
https://cms.bsu.edu/-/media/WWW/DepartmentalContent/Psychology/Docs/PersonalStatement.pdf
that format really helped me keep a balance in my SOP. I also changed it for each program, highlighting different experiences for different programs. I got multiple offers for PhD programs, so I guess my SOP wasn't dreadful.
For research experience, there are several research assistant/research coordinator positions available to those with a bachelors degree. Look at universities, hospitals, etc. A lot of these positions are paid, but some are not. A lot of people who are unsuccessful with their first round of grad school apps take these positions for the very reason you are describing, so there are definitely opportunities out there.
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I think the best things you can do studying-wise are brush up on the basics of each section, then learn how to take the test. Go through the topics that are generally covered and make sure you can do each one/understand each topic. Read some more difficult literature, books or articles, and look up words you don't know to build up your vocabulary. Then do practice questions. A lot of them. Buy a review book and practice their strategies or work to find strategies that work well for you. I liked the Princeton review online course (the cheap one <$200) because the practice tests were on the computer like the actual test and they were thorough with testing strategies and they paced you through it based on when you were taking the test (so no last minute stress piles up trying to cram) . I have also heard good things about the online review on Magoosh.
Another winning strategy, which helped me more than any test prep, was being more relaxed and less anxious during the actual test. Take computerized practice tests alone in a quiet space with no distractions so you feel confident in the context you will take the exam. Don't freak yourself out the night before of the exam (and stop studying 24hrs before you go for the test). Seek out support and validation. Write down your feelings and "vent" before going into the test center. Being more calm the second time around helped me improve my scores much more than any review helped me the first time.
I hope this is helpful!
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The "ideal" funding package looks different depending on what your priorities are. I mean, fellowships are usually best because they often don't have a requirement to work for your stipend (like you would for an assistantship). If you are not interested in pursuing a career in academia, then the package you are considering is definitely not settling. It's one of the better offers you could get! However, if you are interested in research as a career, I would worry about attending a program with no grant money and no RA positions just because I would be concerned about research opportunities. If you find out that that is not a concern, I would say your offer is very good and close to ideal for your situation. There is no one-size-fits-all ideals when it comes to picking a grad program. If you like the program, I wouldn't go through the entire application process again just because you want funding from a different source (especially if your package is sufficient to meet your needs). Good luck deciding!
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@bunnyrabby I applied to temple phd. It took almost 2 weeks for college of the education to process the decision made by the faculty and send an official decision letter. So it will be, at the very least, almost 2 weeks before you get official notice. Could be longer if decisions were not made directly after interview. Hang in there!
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17 minutes ago, estrella said:
Posting some happy news!
Got into two universities, funded offers!! I'm so excited! My first choice (UofM) still has me on waitlist so I'm super confused about whether and when to accept my offers but yay! any advice?
I would decide between the 2 offers you have, decline the second choice, but hold onto the offer you will accept if not taken off the waitist at U of M. Then, call U of M and inquire about your status and let them know you have other offers but they are your #1 and see if they will let you know how likely it will be that you will come off the waitist. No one can make you decide before April 15 but it is courteous to let the schools know by the deadline they suggested if you know so they can give more offers and funding to students who are still waiting.
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I agree that it might be difficult to get a adjunct position with a masters. However, it is possible once you get a bit of experience in your respective field. I do know someone who has a masters in counseling who is an adjunct professor, however she really only teaches courses in counseling...this isn't an option at community college. I do not think it would be easy to get an adjunct position teaching psych courses because there are so many PhDs out there. I think it would be almost impossible to get a general psychology teaching position at a community college with a masters.
School Psychology Fall 2017
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Yes. Being a minority of any kind in this field (and, yes, males are minorities in school psych) will help you. One initiative in the field right now is training more diverse school psychologists (like over 70% of students are white females or something ridiculous like that).