wknd_worrier

I've been reaching out to whoever my primary point of contact has been (i.e., who informed me of my acceptance, answered questions, etc.). For most programs this has been the grad director, but for one it was the department chair so that is who I reached out to inform of my decision. I've also been sending a quick email to any other faculty at each program who took the time to talk to me just to let them know and say thank you for their time etc. 

Out of curiosity, what were some things that made you guys so confident in your decision? Any insight on post-admit visits/what to expect/things to look out for? I'm just in a position where I formally declined one offer I felt certain wasn't a good match, but still have 4 schools that I don't feel ready to cross off the list (2 stand out ahead of the other two right now, but I was offered a university fellowship at one school I applied to that was much lower ranked than all the others and spoke to my POI there and I really liked her and got along well with her, but my POIs at the two programs I'm leaning toward are a bit more in line with my interests and were very nice via email so I'm a bit conflicted). I'm visiting the two programs I think my decision might ultimately come down to in about a week and my only comparable experience is UCI's pre-admit interview weekend so any insight would be much welcomed— if you don't mind of course

I figured I'd make a post in case anyone wanted to discuss/ask questions about anything related to the decision stage of this process (e.g., deciding factors, campus visits, post-admitted communication w/ POI, grad directors etc., meeting w/ POI, informing programs of decisions, etc. etc.)  
 
I know for me personally I'm still a little nervous about campus visits and meeting w/ POI just because I'm horribly shy and I'd also like to hear others perspectives about factors that have made them lean towards/away from certain programs and for those who have already made final decisions how they came to that 

Congratulations @warwick, @RoadtoPhD, and all others that have already made their decision. Making a choice can be extremely difficult, but finally making a decision is a huge relief.
Best wishes and good luck to all those still trying to make their final choice. 

Good luck to all of you still trying to make decisions.
I'll be honest my decision was pretty simple, UCI had been my top choice entering into the application process. Although I was admitted and waitlisted at other programs I made my decision based on the impression I got during my visits. The faculty members, the students, the feel of the campus were the most important factors for me. Although I think I would have been happy with any of the programs that I applied to. 
Best wishes to all as you make your final choice. 

Hi everyone! 
Just wanted to post that I'm attending UAlbany's PhD program starting this fall. Albany was my top choice for awhile, and after attending the visiting weekend I knew my decision was made.
Good luck to everyone else who is contemplating decisions and nervously waiting replies. Just remember in the long run nothing is ever worth worrying about because we are all in the same situation. Everything happens for a reason! ? 

Hi guys! Congrats to all of you who have made decisions on great programs. I'm officially going to attend Northeastern in the fall. It was a little bit of a tough choice between there and Cincinnati but I feel like I picked the best fit for me!
 
Good luck to everyone making their decisions

Thanks! I made one last week or so I'll be doing the same.. hopefully it'll get some action at some point haha 

Thank you :)) 

I got into Maryland on Friday- but that doesn't necessarily mean anything! I heard back from Cincinnati a few weeks after others on here got in and I'd been convinced that I was waitlisted when I first saw those posts!

Anyone like the idea of making a new thread for decisions? I know there's lot over in the general decisions forum, but it might be helpful to make a thread within the C&CJ forum to discuss stuff like factors being taken into consideration w/ choosing, post-acceptance communication w/ faculty/DGS/etc., & other miscellaneous stuff related to the post-waiting stage? 
I just feel like with this being centered a lot around waiting for decisions it might be shitty/annoying to have this thread used for those types of discussions simultaneously. 
Just a thought! What do you guys think?

These are the first ones that come to mind. There's certainly more...
1) What support is there for students applying for external fellowships (e.g., NSF GRFP, NSF DDRI, SSRC, etc.)? Are there successful applicants within the department who are willing to share their materials?
2) Specific placement record and trajectory of recent alums of the department in general and your POI in particular.
3) Summer funding. Are there opportunities to teach a summer course as instructor of record? Is there summer funding available for preliminary fieldwork/data collection if your project requires that?
4) If needed for your work, what are the opportunities for language training? How common is this among PhD students?
5) What is the mix of MA and PhD students in courses in the department?
6) Are there any requirements to take courses outside of the department? If you're interested in courses outside the department, can you take them or are there restrictions on this?
6a) Can or should you have a committee member from outside the department involved in either your comps or your dissertation? If so, what's the protocol for doing this?
7) (Again, this is only if you're interested in this kind of thing.) What professional development training is there for teaching? Are there workshops, a graduate certificate, a 1-2 credit course, etc.?
8) More broadly, what professional development opportunities are there for graduate students?
9) How often and how closely do grad students get to interact with invited/colloquium speakers? Are there regular brown bag or colloquium talks in the department? Do people go to talks from outside the department?
10) Conferences. Is there funding available for travel and, if so, what are the requirements for getting it? Do students travel to regional conferences or only national ones? Do profs co-author presentations with students? Are there any conferences on campus where you can present your research?
That said, I wish I'd asked more about the department's culture/atmosphere. Some of this changes year to year as people graduate and a new cohort comes in but, it's still good to know what the overall department atmosphere is.

I want to return to what several of us have said above (and what I think is honestly the most important point in this thread): Do not worry about trying to impress people.  You're already in.  They're sold.  Now it's their turn to sell you.  It's not really even necessary to "prepare" for these meetings.
You'll probably want to ask what people are working on (and this is useful information to have), but reading recent publications won't really do much for that conversation.  Just ask about it and then listen to the answer.  If it seems appropriate, ask about opportunities for collaboration (not in the sense of "hire me now as your RA" though).
Be prepared to talk about your interests in a general way.  You're not being quizzed  - you don't need to be impressive, but sharing your general research interests will help faculty POIs tell you about relevant resources, etc.
Ask about training, especially methods training, as appropriate.  Feel free to ask about culture.  With potential advisors, feel free to ask if they have any plans to leave in the foreseeable future.
These are casual conversations.  In general, expect the faculty member to do the vast majority of the talking but make sure to ask any questions you need answered.

You can PM me if you want specific information.
I got accepted with full funding to a top 3 PhD CJ program and it was my first time applying. My grades are nothing special. I have lots of work experience as a security guard and recently as a mental health case manager, but that's not what got me in.
My point is, getting into a PhD program is much more than grades or work experience. Your statement of purpose is the MOST important thing, followed closely by your letters of recommendation.  
If you don't know how to articulate WHAT you want to study, and how it is original AND important to the overall understanding of your field, you won't get it anywhere. If your professors cannot say anything positive about your academic rigor or insight into a specific research topic, you won't get in. The purpose of a PhD is to conduct groundbreaking research, and if you cannot convince the admissions committee of your ability to do this, then you are never getting in.
 
BTW I don't mean to be facetious or blunt, but I am just trying to help you out. I'm sorry if you're frustrated. Keep revising your research interests and rewriting your statement of purpose. Ask previous professors to critique your writing too. Last but not least, make sure you go into it with a positive attitude. It will only help you if you remain positive.

Anyone like the idea of making a new thread for decisions? I know there's lot over in the general decisions forum, but it might be helpful to make a thread within the C&CJ forum to discuss stuff like factors being taken into consideration w/ choosing, post-acceptance communication w/ faculty/DGS/etc., & other miscellaneous stuff related to the post-waiting stage? 
I just feel like with this being centered a lot around waiting for decisions it might be shitty/annoying to have this thread used for those types of discussions simultaneously. 
Just a thought! What do you guys think?

Now that I've received my revised funding offer from UCI, I'm ready to submit my SIR. It's a relief to finally be done with this part of the process. 
Best of luck to all those still waiting and in the decision process. 

The best 'fit' advice I've received was to identify people I'd like to be like, research I'd like to join in, and ideas that are thematic in my life and interests. Then, find out what connections those people, research projects, and ideas have with universities. Like a puzzle, in which you start with the answer and work backwards to find the pieces that fit.

Specific responses:

1. How important is it to identify potential advisers who work in your region of study? - This depends on your field and the existing programs. I'm interested in a particular and subfield that could be addressed from an ecological, geographical, or social science perspective. For that reason, I looked for professors who worked interdiscipline, even while grounded in one specific field. You do want someone who easily 'gets' where you're coming from and see where you want to go. In undergrad, I had to battle some well-meaning but cloistered politics and biology profs to keep my research from becoming about their discipline.

2. If you want to work in a relatively new or niche field, or want to innovate in an established field, how do you deal with the paucity of people who worked on your research interests? - It would make your life so much easier to find a like-minded advisor who has experience in your proposed field. Again, look for the keystone paper, idea, or professor and see where they came from. Perhaps you can at least find an advisor who is well-read in your emerging field? Or see if they've advised students in the past who are playing with similar ideas? Also, ask the professor directly if you'd be a good fit with their research, their program, and the school. If they say no, they may recommend elsewhere.

3. If you have several different research interests, would you recommend emphasizing one over the others and letting your "fit" rest on that one set of interests? - Ah, that's a personal decision. Compromise is necessary, especially if you're having trouble finding an advisor. However...when I visited grad schools, it was remarkable how almost every student in my field said that they came in focused on one subject but, as they learned and researched, their interests shifted significantly. Professors, too, have multiple research interests. Don't get hung up on exclusive fit... a good atmosphere, a helpful advisor, and interesting research prospects would be more important to me. You can make your grad degree experience what you want - even as your interests change.

4. Pragmatically, how important is it for your future career that your adviser pull some weight in the field-- being famous, well-connected, well-published, etc? It makes life easier... having a well-respected advisor will help you get published faster, get better grants, and be better networked.

5. What are the risks in identifying junior, untenured faculty members? (Aside from them-- horrors!-- not getting tenure.) I think you know the risks - they leave. Don't go to a school to work with them. But definitely talk with them and ask for guidance.

Anyone like the idea of making a new thread for decisions? I know there's lot over in the general decisions forum, but it might be helpful to make a thread within the C&CJ forum to discuss stuff like factors being taken into consideration w/ choosing, post-acceptance communication w/ faculty/DGS/etc., & other miscellaneous stuff related to the post-waiting stage? 
I just feel like with this being centered a lot around waiting for decisions it might be shitty/annoying to have this thread used for those types of discussions simultaneously. 
Just a thought! What do you guys think?

Congrats !! And yes I didn't apply but I heard Maryland is one of those schools that does more than one round of acceptances 

I got into Maryland on Friday- but that doesn't necessarily mean anything! I heard back from Cincinnati a few weeks after others on here got in and I'd been convinced that I was waitlisted when I first saw those posts!

Although I am still in the process of choosing what school I will attend in the fall, I find myself in a great situation of choosing between four top-20 programs. I thought I'd start this thread because I would have been thrilled to find such a thread last spring/summer when I began the long process of applying. Hold on to your hats, because this might be a long post -- and I'm hoping other successful applicants will jump in with their tips afterwards
 
Ten Steps to Putting YOUR Best Foot Forward in Ph.D. Applications
 
Step I: Research
This is obvious, but put a lot of time into researching the different programs you are considering. I made a spreadsheet in Google Docs so I could access it from anywhere and add new information as I found it. This spreadsheet included things like POIs, short descriptions of their research, program structure and length, etc. Research all the "big name" departments in your field, but also figure out where scholars whose work you admire are now. Look at the stats of current students -- do you seem competitive? I'm not saying you shouldn't aim high, just that you should aim to construct a realistic list, with some "reach" schools along with some where you think you are around the midline of their statistics.
 
In the course of this research, you will rule out some programs - maybe even the top ones in your field! Maybe Great School A is too focused on theory, while you prefer a different approach. And maybe Great School B is in transition with regards to your specialty -- in the process of hiring some unknown new person. On the other hand, maybe Fantastic School Z, a school that seems out of your reach, is such a perfect fit for you that you really feel that application is the only option. Let me tell you what I find baffling: posts on the results board that are like "Princeton/French/Rejected/Comment: "not a great fit for the program."" Why, oh why, did you apply to Princeton if you weren't a truly great fit? Make sure your list reflects YOUR INTERESTS, not just big fancy names. I got into big fancy name schools -- BECAUSE their programs align with my interests, not DESPITE of divergence in specialty.
 
When you think you've finished your research, contact your undergraduate or master's mentors with your list. They may suggest additional programs to look into. Keep honing your list until, I would say, October or so. Then close the book on it. There has to be a final list sometime!
 
Step II. GREs
I think the GREs are dumb. There, I said it! Nevertheless, I studied hard for them over the summer and took them in June so that if I wasn't happy with my scores, I would have plenty of time to take them again before my MA program began in September. I don't know what kind of impact they have had in all this, but I had good scores. You can too if you plan ahead and study hard!
 
Step III. Transcripts
Order copies of official transcripts for yourself, even if your list isn't finalized. You can scan these and upload them to the various applications when you're applying. It's very handy to have them already scanned. Just do it now!
 
Step IV. Letters of Recommendation
I strategized pretty hardcore here, making sure I had three different people who showed off three different strengths. I didn't use a recommendation from one of my most beloved professors, on his own advice, because he didn't have a big enough name and was nearing retirement. Instead, I chose a well-known person who didn't know me as well because I knew my other two references would be more personal and fully developed in their knowledge of me as a scholar. Even though my MA program is only one year, I had two references from my MA (yes, even though I'd only known them for 3 months by the time applications came due) and one excellent one from undergrad.
 
Step V. SoP
The statement of purpose struck fear into my heart. I shed many tears over it! I felt like I was grappling with a demon that I couldn't see. Here are a couple GREAT articles and websites that I found posted here that helped me hugely:
 
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhurapps.tamu.edu%2Fdownloads%2FPersonal%2520Statement%2520Invitation%2520to%2520Frustration.pdf&ei=CekZU6zrNaSHygGK1ICoAw&usg=AFQjCNGzqZrX6UidMqDVr5uQEkHFZU6Log&sig2=U4F_ftEVqIyOFzVzDo7hcQ&bvm=bv.62578216,d.aWc&cad=rja
https://sites.google.com/site/gradappadvice/application-essays
 
After doing my best to follow the suggestions on those websites, I met with a couple professors to get advice. Here are some golden nuggets of wisdom I received:
1. Don't have a plan for your dissertation project? Me neither. But I said that I did in my SoP and laid it out convincingly. One prof said to me, "I'm not saying you should bullsh*t. But can't you make something up?"
 
2. When you have a draft that isn't a total disaster, print it out with super wide margins. As you read what you have written, jot down in the margins what you are thinking. For example, if you have written "My year studying in Mallorca influenced my decision to focus on Cresques's mappa mundi for my project," perhaps you are thinking, "The first time I heard of that was in this little café talking with so-and-so." It doesn't matter if what you are thinking is smart or polished. Write it down anyway.
 
3. Now, integrate some of what your were thinking back into your SoP. If you're like me, your SoP felt accurate in terms of the project you set out and the indications of your background, but stilted and maybe not that "you." Getting some of your true thoughts back into the polished draft will give it some authenticity.
 
So I did all these things, then I sent it back around to profs and fellow students. Days before I was planning to submit it, I received completely contradictory advice from two sources I valued! One said to make it more personal, while the other said to make it more businesslike. I reflected on these pieces of advice and decided to go with more personal because that is more aligned with who I am as a scholar and a person. You need to make the choice that is more accurate for yourself.
 
Obvious, but not to be forgotten, is to customize each SoP for each school. To be honest, my "customization paragraphs" got a lot less attention than the body of my SoP. But because I had done my research thoroughly, they were accurate and described how I fit into each program. Save each school's version in a separate folder with a header indicating the school name and department.
 
Step VI. CV
Make your CV! Ha! It really is that simple, even though it's tedious. Here is a good post about them. Since I don't have any publications or conferences, I made sure my CV included things like language proficiencies and described the various awards I have received in some detail. I saved different copies of the CV in the different folders with custom headers, like for the SoP.
 
Step VII. Any other weird requirements?
Some schools require a statement of diversity. Prepare that. (Honestly, I loathed such additional requirements and did not spend the time I should have on them.)
 
Step VIII. Contact professors
At all of the schools where I was admitted, I sent emails to the professors I was interested in about a month before the application deadline. Almost all of them wrote back. I found the process very awkward, but suck it up!
 
Here's a sample of an email I sent to a POI with details blurred:
 
Dear Professor Great Guy,
 
My name is xxxx, and I am applying to begin my PhD in Humanities at Ivy League in 2014. I did my undergraduate studies at XXXX University in XXXX, and I am currently taking a Masters at  XXXXX.
  My research has, by and large, focused on two major topics up until now: blahdy blah, and boogidy boog.
  As I researched Ph.D. programs, a few things stood out to me about Ivy League, not least of which was your research in blahdy blah (nb. same blahdy blah as above!). I hope you don't mind me contacting you, but I was wondering if you will be working with any new students in 2014. (this bolded part was specific to a professor who I thought might be nearing retirement. it was my coy attempt to ask him about it -- and it worked!)
  I know this is a busy time of year, and I am grateful for your time!
  Sincerely,
Me
 
Step IX. APPLY!
I set aside a weekend in late October/early November and completed ALL my applications that weekend, well in advance of all deadlines. Because of all my preparation beforehand, I was ready to fill out each application IN FULL as I went through them. Check everything two-three times to make sure there are no typos and that the uploaded documents are in the correct format. If you are going to ask for fee waivers, do so well in advance; otherwise, pony up. Don't try to do it at the last minute: it could result in your application not being reviewed.
 
When I hit submit on my first application, I almost puked! Nevertheless, you have to apply to be admitted.
 
Step X. Wait
As grueling as all that was, I almost think it doesn't compare to the waiting part! But here's the thing: eventually they are going to let you know One way that I kept from losing my head was to dream up a back-up plan in case I didn't get in. I even contacted a beloved former boss about perhaps returning to that job, making it clear that this was dependent on Ph.D. outcomes. Having a safety net helped me stay sane. (Mostly )
 
 
 
TOP THREE TAKEAWAYS
 
1) Be INSANELY organized. Mockably organized. Your peers think you're nuts organized. This is how you will have time to hone your SoP into a finely worked weapon of glory! This is how you ensure you have good GREs! This is how you remember to write those profs! This is how you get excellent LoRs, since the profs have enough time to write them! And maybe most importantly, this is how you will meet all the deadlines!
 
2) Putting all that work into the SoP is worth it. I swear.
 
3) Apply to programs where you are actually a great fit, programs where you could see yourself excelling. Don't apply somewhere just for the name or (another favorite quote from results board) "because it's Berkeley." Would YOU thrive at Berkeley? Would YOUR research be supported?
 
What say ye, other successful applicants? Let's give back to this community
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Confused....

Keep it brief, simple and earnest. Mine followed a pattern like this:

Hello, I'm [name] a student at [university]. I'm applying for graduate programs in history for next fall, and I'm interested in studying [subject related to prof's interests]. I've done work on [a few words about a project related to this, if applicable]. Are you taking graduate students next fall?

That gives them the opportunity to respond to your research and even ask for more details, but it also could initiate a conversation by asking a direct question. If you have another direct question, stick that in too.

Avoid trying to sell yourself in the email. Your application will do that - and the Prof will be smart enough to detect this. Just get whatever information you need from them. And honestly, they will almost certainly forget your email, no matter how well-crafted, by the time that application season rolls around. So a simple email requesting information is best, to me anyway. If it strikes up a conversation, then great - but don't be disappointed, and don't take it personally, if a Prof. ignores your email or sends back a one line response.

It helps to know if a Prof. is taking grad students, or is going on sabbatical soon, etc, but I don't think these emails have to be very important. In retrospect, I stressed out about mine all out of proportion to their significance.

I didn't email a single professor. I got into 6 of the 9 programs I applied to. It's an ingratiating process that people spend way too much time thinking about.
First, unless the professor is outwardly rude to you, I wouldn't read too much into the tone of your exchanges. Professors can fawn over you now but drop the ball later. Other professors may react a little coolly until they see your application materials. Professors can just be really busy and not reply.
Second, everything is up in the air until application season, when your actual application materials get printed off and passed around, and when the DGS has to put together a cohort. A lot can change at that point. You can have a great conversation with a professor in field X, but if the department's strengths are Y and Z, they might not be taking students in field X if they can't place them in TT jobs. 
Professors do look at the applications of students expecting to work with them, and some of them do expect that you at least touched base with them. Case in point: at my top choice, my POI—and now advisor!—was personal friends with one of my letter-writers, and when he read my application he turned around and asked my letter writer if I was "serious" about the application. He was impressed by my materials, but my radio silence made him wonder. This makes perfect sense given that my advisor is very hands-on and very, very concerned about his graduate students. I didn't know that at the time. I got lucky, because I had a connection through my letter-writer plus a state flagship on my CV (every school I was accepted to was also a state flagship and it is my unsubstantiated belief that like attracts like). At other schools, people obviously didn't care. 
So the value is that: the professor knows who you are, can put a face to an email, etc. If your application gets to their desk, they'll remember who you are, and for some people that's important. But your application itself makes the biggest difference. It has to, has to, has to, stand on its own two feet. A good application—a good writing sample, specifically—counts the most.

@anthrosoul Man, I tooooootally get where you're coming from. That's what I was feeling last year, my first application cycle- and I still feel like that to this day, even though I feel I know a lot more about the process than I previously did. I came on these forums and everyone seemed to have everything lined up- their exact projects, their POI (a POI who wanted to work them, too, to boot!), what they wanted to do after grad school- and here I was twiddling my thumbs with a barely-formulated project. 
Like some people have mentioned already, I too didn't have any friends to turn to who were going through the application process. My then-boyfriend was applying to law schools and it was so easy, comparatively- all he had to do was study for the LSAT and get an amazing score, write a decent personal statement about why he wanted to be a lawyer, and bam, he got into all these schools (he did score a 173 which was 98th percentile for that year, so it wasn't easy, but it still wasn't as stressful as coming up with an entire project!). I was really alone and fumbling to seem like I had my stuff together. 
I would recommend seeking out a professor you were somewhat connected to in undergrad- it doesn't have to be someone who you're even getting a recc from (but that is ideal), just someone who obviously has succeeded in academia enough to become a lecturer/professor. They will know the process pretty well and can help you find a place to begin. I reached out to a professor who really pushed me and she is the reason my last application was even somewhat legitimate. She helped me go through countless drafts for my SoP, and even by the time I actually applied, I feel my SoP could have been much better.
1. Find a professor/lecturer in anthropology- ask them if they would be willing to answer a few questions about the application process. It's totally okay to admit "I'm completely lost and don't know where to start." 
2. Sit down at a computer and ask yourself: "What do I want to study? How will I study it? Where will I study it? Why is it important to study?" At first it helped me to answer these basic questions in very basic terms- I had one or two sentences for each question. Once you have a basic understanding of what your project, it makes it easier to begin your SoP without starting out convoluted.
3. Once you have a working draft with some substance, I would begin going to different school's websites and looking first at their faculty- usually there are blurbs about their area of interest, and sometimes they have a whole bio page about the work they've carried out. If you don't know what schools to even look at, just look some up based on name/prestige- it's at least somewhere to start. After you've looked at faculty, look at the "current grad students" page- it helps you get an understanding of what kind of projects are being admitted. Some schools have a theme- there might be a big concentration of students doing medical anth, for example, and if that's not in line with your interests, you might get a sense that you won't receive as much support there, from faculty or current students.
4. Don't be discouraged if you find that professors/current students who don't align exactly with your research interests- regions are going to vary a lot, but the focus might be the same. 
5. Reach out to professors and grad students over email. Their contact information is available on the program's website. I take one school at a time- if you're considering a program to be a good fit, you should have at least 2-3 professors who could support your work. Reach out to them and ask basic questions- what kind of research is the department at (insert school here) focusing on? (sometimes programs actually list current research projects/focuses). If they are someone you would want to potentially be your POI, ask them if they plan taking on new students for the next year. Some professors go on sabbatical, and it would be pretty useless to say you would want them to work with you in your SoP of they won't even be there. 
Most of the professors/students won't email back. But some will, and they will offer a lot of great information. Ask questions that are specific to that school/program. Remember that it's about getting into a specific program because it's a good fit, and not just because you want to be in any grad school. I applied to some schools last application cycle that I really shouldn't have- my biggest mistake was wanting to go to a particular school and wasn't looking so much at the work being done there.
 
I've been really despondent about the application cycle lately, and confessed my insecurities to the professor who helped me last year. She tells me over and over again that it wasn't that I wasn't "good enough" in terms of GPA (very average), undergrad institution (state school), or lack of research/publishing (virtually none); she said it was about my project. It could be an amazing project but the school you applied to just isn't the right home for it- that's why it's crucial to do as much research as you can about the research going on at different programs. Once you have found the perfect fit, you can tailor your SoP to that specific school. It's still not a guarantee, but it certainly helps. 
Sorry for the long post! I just remember how I felt last year, and still feel to some extent this year. let me know if you have any other questions!