Endzone98
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20 hours ago, irnerd said:
Thanks so much and that's good to know. I think I will accept the offer from Carleton, wait to hear from the other school, and then make up my mind prior to paying a deposit since I should be hearing back from the other university within 2 weeks. Would be great to not incur any penalties since school is gonna expensive regardless of where I go
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Carleton honestly has a great graduate school with a wonderful co op program so I'm torn - I was actually gonna visit Ottawa to try to help make a decision the past weekend before the current situation we're in happened...
Congrats though! I'm guessing you mustve already accepted your offer then. Did you get a follow up email which indicated the deadline to pay the deposit was extended? It's nice they're being so considerate with the state of the world right now
Ironically my plan was to visit Ottawa too this month! I'm coming from the prairies and everything I've heard about the program and the COOP really helped sway me towards the program over many others!
Yes! I have accepted a while back. The deadline to take the deposit is currently being delayed indefinetly due to the coronavirus pandemic! However, they do require a transcript be sent via email from your university registrar office directly to Carleton. They just recently discussed this. There was no deadline for the transcripts yet. There is an official web seminar open house for the 12th of April! Once you accept your offer, go to mycarleton and log into your outlook! your outlook information will be in the opening page and there you will find all the communications between admin and students! You can also register there to see if Carleton is the best fit for you via the web seminar open house they are happening in your email as well!
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On 3/28/2020 at 10:32 PM, bananacoconut said:
Is anyone else here doing Carleton's new Data Science specialization (assuming you're going there)?
Hmm, I was thinking about this! I honestly don't know too much informations about Data Science and what it really opens up! If you have any info on the Data Science specialization, I'd be grateful to hear it!
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17 hours ago, irnerd said:
Anyone know whether there are any implications to accepting your offer at Carleton and not actually taking it up?
I'm fortunate to have received an offer and my deadline to reply is Thursday. However, I'm still waiting to hear back from another school which is better for my particular program, and so I might end up changing my mind about where I'd go based on if they gave me an offer.
My offer at Carleton is also only conditional upon me taking another econ course. I don't think there's any deposit to be worried about either, but I was wondering if there was some other penalty...
Congrats on your admission! No, there is no penalty if you choose to respond before you submit the 400$ deposit. However, because of the corona virus it seems unlikely that they will ask for a deposit anytime soon as they delayed it! So you should be fine!
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5 hours ago, wevan980 said:
Did your status change from Recommended to Assessment before you got accepted?
Mine changed from Recommended >> Faculty review >> Decision made. From faculty review >> decision made, it took only one day!
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2 hours ago, milomars said:
Recently received a conditional offer of admission to the MPS program at Waterloo! I am still debating between UofT's MPP (waiting on decision) or the MPS program. Is there any justification beyond the prestige of UofT that warrants almost double the price tag, half the co-op term and a restrictive course layout that makes it difficult to transition from co-op to full-time employment? I have searched various forums and it seems like the benefit of UofT is it's international prestige and a heavy stats/economics focus that's aligned with the rigour and program structure of American MPP programs. This was cited as being ideal if your were interested in applying to competitive PhD programs in the states. As well, there is this supposed connection to the 'private sector' yet it appears that only 13.8% of alumni have jobs in the private sector. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe governments compensate policy jobs the best and there is usually a progression of people in the private sector trying to break into equivalent government roles? However, for career prospects within Canada UofT's mpp alumni statistics show around 64.7% join the government. When it comes to hiring decisions, I'm not sure there is an emphasis if any at all placed on school 'prestige' but rather the length of relevant work experience. I'm curious as to understanding the rationale behind the decision to attend UofT when smaller programs like the MPS offer double the co-op experience heavily situated in government. I would love to hear your thoughts on this!
U of T is a great school, but I think if you plan on staying in Canada and not pursing a PhD outside of Canada, then Waterloo is your best bet! It has one of the best COOP programs overall in North America, and its wayyyyy less in terms of expenses. I think their is an allure towards people pursuing the private sector, but you risk stability at the same time! Going to Waterloo isn't going to diminish you in terms of the "top tier MPPA schools", but rather provide you a gateway into practical work experience if you choose to stay in Canada!
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Just now, wevan980 said:
The Carleton program is extremely well respected by managers in the federal public servants. Did you just get in today?
I got in yesterday! I accepted the offer over GSPIA after doing some further research! Seems like an amazing program in Canada!
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4 hours ago, bananacoconut said:
From what I’ve learned, Carleton is the best bet if you want to work for the federal government. It’s in Ottawa and has close ties to the government. It’s also cool that the MPPA program is also introducing a Data Science specialization this September (it’s been approved) if you’re interested in that stuff. They also have a rather wide selection of courses, unlike some other Canadian policy schools.
The MPPA program is also super cheap. Under $18,000 for two years total. And Carleton throws money at students! They have the most generous funding packages of all policy schools in the country. Many people get offered $15k or more. And that’s not including co-op, which you can do over two terms there.
The drawback is that Carleton University is virtually unknown outside Canada. It’s not a highly ranked school. However, the more work experience you have, the less your school matters, so it would still be possible for you to go to Carleton, work in the government, and then move elsewhere should you so wish.
That’s what I understand, at least. Are you thinking about applying next year?
Thanks for the info! I just got into the MPPA program at Carleton! But i also got into GSPIA at Uottawa so i wanted to compare which school offered a better route into the federal government, and employment oppurunities. I was also trying to figure out the strength of the COOP programs as well.
I like the fact Carleton has a very secure COOP program where the GSPIA at Uottawa only offers it to the top tier students.
I heard Carletons MPPA program is highly regarded as being one of the best in Canada? Is this true? As you mentioned it doesn't seem to be internationally known!
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Does anyone have any insight about Carletons MPPA program. I have heard from a few friends its quite prestigious. I was just wondering how it ranks with various other schools in Canada and the world!
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Hey everyone,
I have been admitted into the Graduate school of public and international affairs at Uottawa, and the Masters in Public Policy and Public Administration at Carleton University. I am not exactly sure which school offers better job placement (heard carleton might be stronger with COOP), and also how reputation plays a factor. I personally am interested in International Affairs, but after hearing that Uottawa has a french requirement for one of its courses and that only the top 20% of the class gets a COOP placement, it has really made me rethink what is the best choice moving forward. I aspire to work for GAC or an NGO so i'm not sure if having an MPPA will help me or not! Any advice?
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1 minute ago, KW77 said:
I have been wondering about this as well, the school recommended that if you didn't get OSAP, OGS, or some other type of scholarship, ScotiaBank offers professional loans up to 100k if your credit history is good and if you can potentially get a cosigner (depending on if your working full time or not). In terms of the return on investment, i honestly can't say, I know some people that went to programs like Munk, LSE, Georgetown etc and never got any big private sector jobs to justify the debt they took, while on the other hand, i have met a lot of people from what would be considered "middle of the pack universities and programs" who have done exceptionally well in gov't and the private sector across North America. I really think it depends on what your end goal is in addition to specific attributes about you as individual (work/volunteer experience, additional languages or special skills). The only sure thing programs like this can give you is better access to alumni networks and special events, in addition to giving you the opportunity to work in prestigious departments/organizations (coop). Atleast that's my take on it, i'm sure others have different perspectives on here as well.
Yea thats a great point! I really feel like the prestige of U of T is what draws many people (including myself) into going there, but the price is quite high in fees LOL. My end goal personally has been to work either for NATO or work on something related with national defence policy.
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Anyone thinking about how they will fund their Munk tuition (if given admission) out of curiosity, and whether if that expensive of a program is worth it at the end? Thinking quite a bit about the return of investment quite a bit LOL
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46 minutes ago, ElleG said:
This is my worry I have 5 more days to decide on GSPIA but Munk won't even send things out till mid march. I wonder why they do it that way
Exactly! I accepted the offer for GSPIA, but I'm hoping Munk replies soon! although the price of the program is throwing me off a bit! Just wish they could keep up with NPSIA and GSPIA
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I find it weird tho how Munk starts handing their acceptances Mid March and every other program is admitting applicants earlier LOL
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3 hours ago, ElleG said:
So from what I am getting first rounds of GSPIA and NPSIA are coming out this week and mayne next week.
Has anyone heard anything from Munk (or what does your status of application say)
GSPIA already handed their first round of admissions early this month. I received my offer on the 14th. Some heard a few days before me. Munk is gonna start Mid March as their website states. From previous threads, it usually starts around March 7th. Good Luck!
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9 hours ago, irnerd said:
I think it really depends what you want out of the program. The MGA is incredibly expensive with very limited financial support, however u of t is the best school in the country by far and there is a lot of name recognition. the professors at u of t are leading experts and i think the program also provides more flexibility in terms of whether you want to work in the private or public sector (I know several MGAs working in Ottawa as well as many others at deloitte, consulting agencies and so forth).
Having also attend u of t, I found there are a lot of academic enrichment opportunities too (fully funded research trips, conferences with prominent scholars, etc).
I think for public sector orientated people, npsia still slightly ends ahead of gpsia (although gpsia seems to have a fantastic internship/Co op program). And it's also obviously better than u of t in this respect too
I guess the one down side of npsia/gpsia though is also it's strength - it's more suited for people who want to work in the government. Happy to answer any more questions ? if money wasn't an issue for me I think the MGA wouldve been very appealing
Wow thank you for the great insight! I think my biggest concern has been the return of investment! Investing to attend MGA (if i get in) would be costly, but the name probably carries quite a bit of international merit. However, it only offers a 4 month internship program, so idk how that would effect life for me after when looking for future employment. Are your friends employed after completing the MGA program? If so, are they leaning more into the private sector or public?
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51 minutes ago, irnerd said:
im personally leaning towards npsia if i get in (great program at a more affordable cost, but if you want any info on munk, i did my undergrad with a program affiliated with the school and pretty much everyone i know has the done the mga lol.
Yea I'd love some info! I got into GSPIA and i'm on the fence about whether or not Munk is worth it (cost etc). Beside the reputation, how does the MGA compare overall with other schools in Canada. Is it better than GSPIA and NPSIA? Or is there even a "better program" lol?
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1 hour ago, MA_more_like_no_way said:
Got into GSPIA today! Which was awesome but does anyone know the specifics of the French requirement? Like can we write our assignments and exams in English for that one course we would have to take in french? Also it says we have to know passive french to get in but I never talked about my very rudimentary french as far as I remember so I'm confused about that.
Congrats! I might see ya there!
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Anyone got their eyes set on Munk?
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44 minutes ago, Potter445 said:
Thanks a lot! that was pretty illuminating. I was 100% sure I was going into NPSIA but it seems I have to consider my options a bit more.
I'm looking into the international opportunities at uOttawa right now, and though I've heard they are really competitive, I wasn't expecting the exchange program to admit only 4 students per place per term...and I'm guessing the co-op program is even more competitive. Last thing I'd want is to leave after 2 years without work or international experience.
Hmm...tough decision
For the exchange program tho also look at the fact that many students if not the bare majority prefer to work for government in Canada or other public service jobs. i don't know how big the class will be at GSPIA, but you will have a fair chance for sure at your dream international internship for sure! Also, getting into any of these three grad schools is a big stepping stone into the international sphere! I am sure you will make the right choice my friend!
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38 minutes ago, Potter445 said:
Thanks a lot! that was pretty illuminating. I was 100% sure I was going into NPSIA but it seems I have to consider my options a bit more.
I'm looking into the international opportunities at uOttawa right now, and though I've heard they are really competitive, I wasn't expecting the exchange program to admit only 4 students per place per term...and I'm guessing the co-op program is even more competitive. Last thing I'd want is to leave after 2 years without work or international experience.
Hmm...tough decision
Yess! I have heard they are both tough! I think personally that the Co-op seems more reasonable for uottawa taking the top 20-25% of the class. The embassy program I'm not 100% sure on but I do think it provides unique gateways if you work hard!
Personally, in terms of security i think U of Ts is the best because its mandatory internship. On the flip side it is a four month internship whereas both NPSIA and Uottawa are 8 months. So it really comes down to personal preference. For me I am currently addmitted to uottawa but if Munk accepts me I will most likely accept!
Really wish there was a Munk MGA group for hopefuls btw cause im mad stressed lmaoo!
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8 hours ago, Potter445 said:
Hey everyone! I'm glad to have found an active forum on NPSIA, because none of the old forums seem to address a question I've been looking to resolve ?
From what I've read, a lot of students believe that the co-op opportunities at NPSIA open doors to the Public Service (Global Affairs in particular), but there is little mention of other sorts of work it offers. Personally, I'm not really interested in working for the Federal Government -- my dream is to work for an international organization, either in an NGO or within an intergovernmental context. So I'm wondering if anyone has any insight as to the sort of international work placements NPSIA has to offer (if any at all)?
Thank in advance!
Hey! I've read into some of the older posts and some posts external to this website and found that many of the graduates find themselves working in public service and federal government. That being said there appears to be in each school a slight minority that peruse other routes such as NGOs, international organizations etc.
NPSIA is a well recognized program and ranks 36 in the world according to foreign policy magazine, but I do think it has a specific orientation that pushes students in their co-op and post grad life towards the public service.
Looking at statistics extracted from the University of Toronto Munk School of Global Affairs, it seems that there is a 15% or so graduate ratio which go on to international organizations. They offer a unique internship program which allows students to work in an embassy, international organization, private business, or public service. It appears to offer a stronger avenue (in my opinion) than NPSIA.
The University of Ottawa Graduate School of Public and International Affairs from what i have read at this forum suggests that it builds a strong pathway towards international organizations. There is an embassy internship program there as well, and a bit more of a well connected and networked links to organizations such as WHO, UN, and others. The video they offer as well in their recruitment pitch also suggests that they value their international connections more than perhaps NPSIA. Now this is all my view! I think NPSIA will allow you to enter any stream you wish, but I personally am leaning towards either uottawa (accepted) or Munk (goal). I think all three schools mentioned in this post are prestigious, and it is a matter of personal preference as well! Best of luck!
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4 hours ago, Potter445 said:
Hey! I have a question about the co-op prospects for GSPIA vs NPSIA and thought to add it on to your question since it's pertinent.
From the posts I've read, it seems a lot of people applying to NPSIA and GSPIA are comparing their co-op programs based on Public Service (and in particular GAC) opportunities. It's making me feel a little left out, because I don't actually want to take the public service route. I'm more drawn towards working on an international level-- either within an embassy, in an NGO, or in an intergovernmental context... and I'm hoping that one of these programs will open up doors for me.
Does anyone know if one of these programs offers more extensive opportunities to work abroad?
Thanks!
Agreed! Hope someone can clear things up for us! Although from what little I know about GSPIA, it appears that they offer an internship that allows you to directly work at an embassy. This is also true for Munk as well. I have heard that NPSIA seems to focus more on Global Affairs Canada (GAC) and other federal level job placements. Again, this is from reading older posts LOL!
I just recently got admitted into the program so I'm confused as heck about quite a bit of things as well!
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25 minutes ago, Tobybyby said:
My funding was included with my acceptance but I think if you had above an 8.0 admission average you’ll receive the funding but less than that you won’t receive any. It also may just be taking a couple days so maybe wait it out and then email? I don’t think it’s passive to ask about funding because it’s a really important part of your decision.
Okay! thank you!
I was wondering if you had any information about GSPIA vs Munk! So confused as to which school provides better job employment, connections, reputation, and program rating!
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Hey everyone, was wondering if someone with insight knowledge can differntiate between the three schools and highlight the pros and cons of attending and job prospects!
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Hey everyone, I was curious if anyone had an idea regarding the salaries we may expect after graduating from Carleton with an MPPA degree?