Loleagle

I know someone who was rejected from hunter twice before getting in on the third try so you can always reapply (if you want).

I understand the difference between independent vs dependent . im just trying to say that in the open house I attended someone asked : I am an independent , over 30 , my parents do not claim me on their taxes. Will their assets be taken into consideration in my aid and the financial aid officer said yes because Yale feels that is more equitable. If you want to point me to the federal law that requires schools to only take the independent person’s finances into consideration for distribution of endowment funded money. I can send it on over to Yale. But I’m pretty sure that private schools can distribute their endowment in whatever way they think is most equitable. Government subsidized loans is a different story. You can call Yale and ask them ? Idk this is not that a big a deal to me but you can read peoples’ posts in past years’ forums who were very upset about Yale’s financial aid determination.

Well I would be very curious if Yale is breaking the law. I quoted the website but I’m also getting my information from the online open house where the financial aid office answers questions. I attended the open house twice and the question about parental assets was asked . They do consider your parental assets in their determination of aid regardless of whether you are claimed as a dependent . They operate similarly to Columbia GS (which was my undergraduate college). I have plenty of 30+ year old friends at Columbia gs with children and/or spouses who receive little grants because of their parents income. You can call yale financial aid and verify. Maybe things have changed. Not trying to be rude but just trying to back up the statements people have been making about Yale being a huge financial decision for more people than is typical at an mfa.

Unfortunately that is incorrect from Yale’s website : “The Yale School of Art requires all Financial Aid applicants submit parental information (must be submitted on CSS Profile) in order to be considered for Financial Aid. Only in extreme cases is this information waived. If you feel you have an extreme case for which parental information should be waived you can wait until receiving a formal interview before completing the Financial Aid applications, at which time the Financial Aid office can talk with you about the specific steps needed to support your case. Upon your acceptance a list of the necessary documentation will then be required to waive parental information. Instances for which parental information is waived include: deceased parents, documented abuse that has resulted in estrangement or court-ordered separation, extreme estrangement (parent(s) are not reachable without going through severe measures), or abandonment which resulted in adoption, foster, or other family care. Unwillingness, age, marital status, and other standards of dependency are not conditions for which the School of Art waives the requirement of parental data.” …Yale does not use the same standard of dependency as taxes…

Yale is one of the only MFA programs that uses college board CSS to determine aid. This means that your parents assets are taken into account. Ofc someone who has parents who own their home has more privilege than someone with parents who rent but I’m not sure that means that the student is rolling in money. Some people have parents willing to contribute to their MFA but most don’t so that means debt for the student. Idk why people are so hyper focused on Yale on this account but yeah that’s why people have been saying not only does the student have to have no income but the parents too. And that is unique to Yale. Unless that has changed? I applied in 2020 & 21 and it was true then. Currently at another MFA now and was not asked about my parents (both are retired but own their home in socal so Yale would have likely meant a ton of debt for me).

The drama school is free. I have 4 friends at Yale MFA visual arts and no one is fully funded. Although they all get aid.

Has anyone heard anything from Skowhegan ?

I know someone who received an acceptance to ucla painting .

I graduated in spring 2020 so I can’t speak to post lockdown things but …in spring 2020 students were still complaining constantly about faculty. They had almost no access to Sarah sze and Justine kurland and 1/3 of adjunct faculty are recent columbia MFA grads (which was fine for me as an undergrad). The studio situation was slightly better because they put netting across all the ceilings . but hopefully that has improved and hopefully they can connect you with current students.

I did visual arts undergrad at columbia and I’m currently at hunter & bard MFA . Bard hasn’t been amazing lately but I think it will be really good this summer. Columbia is a very very diff vibe than bard so just depends what you are looking for. On a $ note —I’m doing hunter and bard for less than the cost of one year at columbia MFA so it is a very pricey school.

I would look through last years forum? I think that I remember people were getting off waitlists as late as July for a fall start

Hi, I got a similar response from Yale (they asked me to reapply in the rejection letter)...I was able to ask a professor who used to be on the admissions committee at Yale and she said that they are saying this because they really do want you to reapply and that this means they will remember your name. My letter also specifically mentioned that they wanted to see more development of my work. I think especially if you have her email it is a great idea to respond. many MFAs that I know get into their top choice the 2nd or 3rd time they apply so this is a great sign:) good luck. '

yes, this is happening. but the conversation is still in progress. (is my understanding)