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Veilside1

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  1. Attia,

    Congrats on Brown and Chicago!! I haven't received word and my online app for Brown still says "a decision has not yet been made" so it's likely a rejection...as I'm sure Chicago is too since my inbox is also lacking in a letter from them.

    I noticed that you have a rejection from IPGRH, when did you hear? I still have nothing from them.

  2. Looks like someone's being a douche... There's a bogus post on the results page for UChicago stating that the website has decisions up... Nope. They never do it that way, it's always via email or postal. Someone correct me of I'm wrong, but it looks like a bitter applicant wants to stir us all up. Ugh. False word is the last thing we all need right now.

  3. Attia,

    I'm wih you on Brown. The History Department sent out word today for their all applicants (accepted, rejected, and wait listed), but the Classics Department is still lagging. I applied to the Joint PhD Program in Ancient History, and seeing that numerous people who applied to this program via the History Departmeny have heard word, I'd expect that half, at least, of that particular applicant pool has been assessed...so hopefully in the next few days word will come to us--assuming that you applied to the Ancient History program that is.

    Has anyone heard word from AHMA at Berkeley or IPGRH at Michigan?? I have one acceptance now out of 14 programs, and really just want answers to start coming in... :-/

  4. ACS,

    I called Berkeley this afternoon. They fold me that they have only notified those who applied to the classics PhD. Not AHMA yet. Since it didn't happen today, it will likely be on Monday.

  5. Just found out the following:

    1. Cornell is making their final decisions this weekend, and word will be sent out this next week.

    2. AHMA at Berkeley has finalized their decisions, and will be notifying early next week.

    3. IPGRH at Michigan has finalized their decisions, and will be notifying early next week.

    It looks as if it will be a long weekend.

  6. I think that the Columbia post was not wholly legit. It sounds as if someone emailed the DGS to ask what was going on, and they responded with an email which generically stated that they were excited about their app.

    I've never heard of a school emailing you before a decision just to say they like what they see at a cursory glance. Plus, both Columbia posts were posted back to back... Seems like a bs post to me.

  7. I 'm an ancient historian, and have applications out to both Classics and History Departments. Most of my applications, however, are to Classics. The one which is housed in History that I care about the most is Chicago. I am hoping that since the 'History' sub-forum here is far more active than 'Classics', you guys can offer more insight (also, obviously, since this concerns a History Department, :)).

    Thanks, and good luck to us all!!

  8. Veilside, congrats on your Buffalo acceptance. That's great news!

    Thanks!!

    Attia,

    I applied to the History Department at Chicago emphasizing ancient history, do you know anything about the going-ons there? I know that Hall and Ando are affiliated faculty, so maybe you've heard news as of this...

  9. Has anyone heard anything else?

    Just my acceptance to Buffalo thus far. But it looks like none of my other outstanding schools have given any word yet... I was expecting this week to be a big news week too... I think that Randy's right though, there will be a floodgate day as opposed to word trickling in.

    Watch for Friday though, as most schools typically report on the first few days of February, and likely will be holding adcomm meetings then. Wishful thinking perhaps, but we'll see.

  10. I'm also holding out for Princeton, and by the looks of the 'results survey' page, the only listed "accepted" students received notification in late February at the earliest... so, hopefully Beelzebub is right, and Princeton still has more to go... I'm applying for the PAW (program in the ancient world) track, as my focus is ancient history, so hopefully the jury is still out on that. Only time will tell though.

  11. Well, this week is going to be a big one. Based on previous years' dates we can all (reasonably) expect to hear from about half a dozen programs. Ugh... I'm already checking my email three times an hour, it's about to become a complete obsession--until I hear a "yes" from somebody, and hopefully then some anxiety will abate.

    So, good luck to everyone on the eve of what is likely one of the most significant weeks for us all!!

  12. It looks like Berkeley has notified those they're accepting. But, does anyone know if the AHMA program is included with the general "Classics PhD" grouping? Not sure if I should consider myself rejected or not just yet...

  13. Looks like Wisconsin is the first to report -- sending out rejections! Here we go!

    Yup... it begins. Going by the previous years' worth of results here, Stanford and Berkeley should be around the corner next (last days of January into te early days of February)-- after them we can expect the rest to flood their answers in just before Valentine's Day.

  14. All,

    This is found all over the results search page, and I am just curious what this entails exactly. I understand how an interview could go in person, or over the phone, but this seems odd. For those of you who have gone through this, how does it work? I mean, is it a series of back-and-forth emails (which seems like slow texting, and not very efficient), or is it that you are sent 3-4 particular questions about your interests and why you fit (which seems like a repeat of your application, and not very efficient)?

    I'm obviously jumping the gun here, and hopefully will be in a situation where I have to worry about this, but am curious nonetheless.

    Thanks.

  15. I think that the absolute earliest would be the last week in January. The norm for acceptances is more around the February 10-20 range. Very few programs notify those who are accepted into March, so essentially if March comes around and no word, the odds are stacked against you.... Let's all hope for plenty of emails from schools over the next 4-5 weeks, since that's the time that they'd come.

    ...just to stop people from attacking what I said, let me state: Yes. Some programs do notify late. Which is why said 'the norm'.

  16. I have to say that I disagree with almost the entirety of Veilside's post.

    First of all, how can you say that there is "nobody ... of any real significance [at Harvard]"? What about Ziolkowski, Thomas, and Tarrant, to name but a few? Do they not count? And how did Yale come to be ranked 4th in your list? They have been in decline for years - they just lost Celia Schultz to Michigan because of the constant rancor within their department.

    Stanford has almost no Latinists to speak of, with the notable exception of Barchiesi, and he is only there six months out of the year.

    Lastly, I would say that UCLA and UT Austin are easily on par with UNC, Duke, Brown/Cornell/Columbia.

    The Department of Classics at UT Austin has a decent ranking of the top graduate programs on their website. Here is the URL:

    http://www.utexas.ed...%20Handbook.pdf

    Well.... as I said this is 'only "my" perception of the best schools.' Myself, being an ancient historian I view these programs from a different perspective. Also, I think you failed to grasp that I also said that all 12 of them are very, very close in terms of their respective separation in the "ranking"--accept for Harvard.

    This only acts as living proof that for any organization to attempt to apply a ranking system to PhD programs in classics fails before it begins.

    Stanford has a great selection of historians who offer a variety of specialties. No one "does Latin" though? I'm sure that they all are capable and equipped to tackle the nuances of the language, but I'll take your philology-oriented perspective to be true that Stanford does not house an adequate number of Latin philologists.

    But see? How would the issue of ranking Stanford be addressed? I see it, as an historian, as a very strong department, yet from another discipline's point of view it is quite flawed.

    As I stated above, ranking is a pointless exercise anyway. The best strategy is to apply to all the "obvious" schools and if you're lucky enough to get in anywhere or even have a choice, then worry about it. I only provided a ranking out of boredom and for the sake of the argument to demonstrate my single perspective... and you, random_classicist complemented my entire point perfectly, even though you stated that you "disagree with almost the entirety of Veilside's post." I assume that the disagreement was essentially due to my slanted ranking.

    As far as Harvard goes, yes, I am not impressed. As an historian who examines their faculty list there is nobody. Emma Dench is it; and she, although she very well might be a fantastic person and great lecturer, is not really a 'somebody' in academia. Bowersock and Badian, and to some extent C.P. Jones, kept the historical interests of the department in quite high regard, and perhaps some day Harvard will bring in someone, or hopefully a few scholars, of high caliber, but that time is not now.

    Princeton is an academic powerhouse in classics, and from what I can tell is probably no less than 2nd on anyone's ranking. In terms of history, and just on the Roman side of things, Princeton has Edward Champlin, Brent Shaw and Harriet Flower, and if later antiquity is your interest the history department has Peter Brown.

    ....I don't know. Everyone will have their own opinion, but the core of what I was trying to originally say is true: Ranking doesn't mater, we all know where is good, and that short list is perhaps in constant flux, but the top 12 stay the top 12.

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