fakeworm Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 I applied for PhD for all universities. I am sure it is hard to get to MIT's ORC program. But somehow the number of PhD applicants to that program is not large. In year 2006, 120 students applied for MIT's PhD program, and they admitted 22, which makes its acceptance rate 18%. http://web.mit.edu/orc/www/academics/ad ... stats.html The number of applicants for other schools are at least 200, or 300+ for some of them. Yup, I did saw those statistics on the website, but the truth is when I looked at their PHD student's resume, I almost passed out...
fakeworm Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 I applied/am applying to all masters programs. Either within industrial engineering or stand alone OR, and MIT's CDO... MIT (CDO) UW- Madison UW- Seattle Purdue Penn State Northeastern USC Does anyone have any feel of how competitive OR admissions are for a masters? There is virtually no information on what kind of stats you need to be competitive. MIT I know I have no chance. The other ones I have no idea how to gauge my chances. My goal is to get a single acceptance. Stat-wise: 3.13 GPA at top public university Math and Econ double major Engineering internships during the summers where I did research in R&D (field wasn't really related) 3 recs. 1 from my supervisor, 1 from the Dean of Operations (In the business school), and 1 from another professor. GRE: 800q, 480v, 4.5w SOP probably pretty average, maybe a litle bit above. Is Industrial Engineering/OR the kind of field where you need to put up monster stats? I think I have the best chance at Northeastern, any thoughts? IE's human factor side does need a lot of stats. This year, OR's admissions for masters&phd is just as hard as getting into other programs because of recession at this time.
Orange745 Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 So human factors is the most competitive?
IOEgirl Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 how high the GPA should be if you apply for OR?...
XiaoCai Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 :cry: First decison I heard and it is a rejection from USC Marshall School PhD program (I applied for OR field). Tough time :cry:
IEOR Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 :cry: First decison I heard and it is a rejection from USC Marshall School PhD program (I applied for OR field). Tough time :cry: That is sad. It did not apply USC Business School. I am sure that the business schools are more competive thanIEOR programs that are located in engineering schools. The only B-school that I applied is UCLA Anderson DOTM program. The rest are IEOR programs in engineering. What about you how many B-school vs engineering?
XiaoCai Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 That is sad. It did not apply USC Business School. I am sure that the business schools are more competive thanIEOR programs that are located in engineering schools. The only B-school that I applied is UCLA Anderson DOTM program. The rest are IEOR programs in engineering. What about you how many B-school vs engineering? UCLA anderson is on my list, plus MIT, CMU. Rest of my applications are engineering. OMG! It is impossible to get through MIT and CMU, right?
IEOR Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 Yes both are hard to get. In MIT, is it ORC or directly Sloan? If it is Sloan, then it is hard squared
XiaoCai Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 Not sure. There is an OR field of PhD program in Sloan, and manay faculty members are also in ORC. No clue of the relation between Sloan and ORC
IOEgirl Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 Do you guys have any research experience in OR? I am worrying about my research background...
XiaoCai Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 I got reply from the professor I kept contacting from USC. She told me that the reason I got rejection is I don't have a strong reference letter. It seems that recommendation letters are very important, even more important than research background. :shock: I have 1 journal paper, 3 conference papers and 2 presentations in INFORMS annual meetings.
IOEgirl Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 I got reply from the professor I kept contacting from USC. She told me that the reason I got rejection is I don't have a strong reference letter. It seems that recommendation letters are very important, even more important than research background. :shock: I have 1 journal paper, 3 conference papers and 2 presentations in INFORMS annual meetings. Your research experience is so amazing.... Are you an undergraduate student ?...
XiaoCai Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 Your research experience is so amazing.... Are you an undergraduate student ?... No, I got my BS in China, and my ms here.
ipmser Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 I got reply from the professor I kept contacting from USC. She told me that the reason I got rejection is I don't have a strong reference letter. It seems that recommendation letters are very important, even more important than research background. :shock: I have 1 journal paper, 3 conference papers and 2 presentations in INFORMS annual meetings. strong candidate though. Well, I am wondering what "don't have a strong reference letter" means? The referees don't have a strong impact in this OR field or the contents are not positive enough?
XiaoCai Posted February 11, 2009 Posted February 11, 2009 strong candidate though. Well, I am wondering what "don't have a strong reference letter" means? The referees don't have a strong impact in this OR field or the contents are not positive enough? This is the exact word from that professor. Maybe you need to have a recommender with strong background, such as a research leader in the field you applied. If you can get a letter from the dean of Sloan School, definitely you will get in!
rkothari88 Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 I got reply from the professor I kept contacting from USC. She told me that the reason I got rejection is I don't have a strong reference letter. It seems that recommendation letters are very important, even more important than research background. :shock: I have 1 journal paper, 3 conference papers and 2 presentations in INFORMS annual meetings. Having such strong research credentials right out of a masters degree is pretty impressive. I'm surprised they would give so much weight to referees even after that. Life is so much about networking. Sigh. Good luck with all your other applications though. I've also applied for MS in a few OR programs. Still waiting out for the results. Regards, Rishabh
IOEgirl Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 Has anyone got any news from Cornell, Columbia or Purdue?
fakeworm Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 Has anyone got any news from Cornell, Columbia or Purdue? I did got the admission of M.ENG from Cornell last week. I'm not sure how they are actually giving out the decisions though. Columbia's decisions usually takes 3-5 weeks and purdue's IE department just started review according to one of my Professors. Hope this helps.
fakeworm Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 This is the exact word from that professor. Maybe you need to have a recommender with strong background, such as a research leader in the field you applied. If you can get a letter from the dean of Sloan School, definitely you will get in! Quite crucial but true. Strong background! Sad but true, you are rite...to get into top programs like MIT or Stanford, recommendation letters means everything. ... But you'll get great offers, otherwise the admissions is crazy... Good Luck!
XiaoCai Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 I did got the admission of M.ENG from Cornell last week. I'm not sure how they are actually giving out the decisions though. Columbia's decisions usually takes 3-5 weeks and purdue's IE department just started review according to one of my Professors. Hope this helps. You got admission of Master program from Cornell, right? Did you hear anything about PhD program?
IEOR Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 I called Berkeley IEOR today, because someone posted acceptance letter on gradcafe on February 4. They said that they are reviewing the applications one by one and sending decisions in parts not all at a time...
IOEgirl Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 I did got the admission of M.ENG from Cornell last week. I'm not sure how they are actually giving out the decisions though. Columbia's decisions usually takes 3-5 weeks and purdue's IE department just started review according to one of my Professors. Hope this helps. good for you! I applied to PhD program of OR in Cornell and other 6 school. I know Columbia has started reviewing my application 3 weeks ago. PS, one of my friends majored in IE got PhD admission of Northwestern and was invited to campus visit next month...so jealous at him..
IOEgirl Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 You got admission of Master program from Cornell, right? Did you hear anything about PhD program? which master program are you in now?
ipmser Posted February 12, 2009 Posted February 12, 2009 let's make a guess. There will be a bunch of admissions and denials out from MIT ORC and Columbia tomorrow afternoon. Just a guess. Don't be too serious, guys.
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