phreeduh Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 It seems like in all the answers we've been getting from SSHRC earlier dates were suggested for the Master's scholarships than the doctoral ones. I bet the Master's tables are up because those results are either being sent now or about to be and that doctoral results won't go out until next week.
phreeduh Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 Incidentally, I found out last week that I got an FQRSC and have officially stopped pulling my hair out.
canadiangirl78 Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 Weren't there supposed to be some 400 extra Master's CGS awards given out this year because of the budget (albeit to business-related degrees)? How come the total for 09-10 is actually 100+ less awards than last year's? This is very weird.. I have no idea what these SSHRC people are doing..
dramanda Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 Weren't there supposed to be some 400 extra Master's CGS awards given out this year because of the budget (albeit to business-related degrees)? How come the total for 09-10 is actually 100+ less awards than last year's? This is very weird.. I have no idea what these SSHRC people are doing.. I thought all this business-related degrees hooplah was in the budget that just came out from Ottawa....which means to me that it would be in place for NEXT YEAR'S SSHRC competition.
canadiangirl78 Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 I thought all this business-related degrees hooplah was in the budget that just came out from Ottawa....which means to me that it would be in place for NEXT YEAR'S SSHRC competition. No the change was effective this year (only 09-10 for PhD) and for this and the following year for Master's according to the release by SSHRC that was circulated.. this is all making me very skeptical but then again, it's SSHRC so anything is possible..
phreeduh Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 Don't forget that this list doesn't count the Vanier awards recipients. If you add them the total awards given out go higher.
jferreir Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 It seems like in all the answers we've been getting from SSHRC earlier dates were suggested for the Master's scholarships than the doctoral ones. I bet the Master's tables are up because those results are either being sent now or about to be and that doctoral results won't go out until next week. You would think so, but no. I emailed SSHRC earlier this week and specifically asked when the Masters CGS results would be released. The answer they gave me was "end of next week".
eggheaddreams Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 The males are getting absolutely SMOKED by the females on this. Look at table 9. A 70/30 ratio in favor of the girls. Not good news for us guys! Yeah, I noticed that too. But then again, all my history and art history classes have been at least 70 percent female, and usually it's an even higher percentage than that. (In art history, it's not unusual for classes to be 95 percent female). In order to really know whether the guys are getting smoked, we need to know the female to male applicant ratio. I strongly suspect, also, that the NSERC table would be the reverse, since the sciences have a higher male participation rate. Anyone know?
jferreir Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 Yeah, I noticed that too. But then again, all my history and art history classes have been at least 70 percent female, and usually it's an even higher percentage than that. (In art history, it's not unusual for classes to be 95 percent female). In order to really know whether the guys are getting smoked, we need to know the female to male applicant ratio. I strongly suspect, also, that the NSERC table would be the reverse, since the sciences have a higher male participation rate. Anyone know? As a guy, I'm actually happy to see these lopsided numbers. There are way too many bearded men in my discipline!
thepoorstockinger Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 Looking closely at the title of table #1, it looks like it's *not* necessarily the total number that was awarded to a particular institution. Table #1 says it's "By institution of affiliation at the time of application". What does this mean? Maybe "institution of affiliation" means the university the applicant indicated s/he'd be going to. Probably there are many other possibilities. I'm open to suggestions. Table #2 says "By institution to award". It's ambiguous, for sure, but I suspect that table 2 may be the one that gives us the number awarded to each institution. No. Table 1 is definitely the number awarded to students who applied through that school. Table 2 is definitely the number awarded to students who indicated that they planned on attending that school. Table 1 includes many schools with no graduate programs, table 2 includes only schools with graduate programs.
jferreir Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 No. Table 1 is definitely the number awarded to students who applied through that school. Table 2 is definitely the number awarded to students who indicated that they planned on attending that school. Table 1 includes many schools with no graduate programs, table 2 includes only schools with graduate programs. 100% correct. Something else just occurred to me... why would SSHRC post the competition statistics before successful applicants have had a chance to respond? For instance, on my application I indicated that I would be attending UBC, but now I've decided upon UofT. Wouldn't that skew the data in Table 2 (provided I'm successful, of course)?
sylvinka Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 I think the delay this year has everything to do with the new Vanier awards. They obviously wanted to have this big pomp and circumstance event in Ottawa announcing the recipients (see Vanier thread) on April 30. As far as I understand it, those students who are nominated for a Vanier and don't receive one are going to get a CGS. If they released the results for CGS/regular SSHRC before April 30, then those students nominated for a Vanier who didn't end up getting a CGS would know they won the Vanier, taking some of that surprise away. I could be wrong, but this is how I've put all the pieces together over the last few days..... In any event, this is good news for the rest of us as a collective. The existence of the Vanier means that top applicants will get that, and we can only assume that they would've won a CGS/regular SSHRC otherwise. Thus, there's a little more "wiggle room" for those of us in the regular competition this year. I'm not sure how many Vaniers will be awarded, so I could be entirely off-base with this. Also, I could end up putting my foot in my mouth in a few days when I don't get SSHRC even with this extra wiggle room.... So did they announce those Vanier winners today? I can't see any note of it on sshrc or vanier website.
dramanda Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 So did they announce those Vanier winners today? I can't see any note of it on sshrc or vanier website. There's a ceremony in Ottawa this afternoon. I wouldn't hold your breath for any regular SSHRC results today.
sylvinka Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 So did they announce those Vanier winners today? I can't see any note of it on sshrc or vanier website.
dood Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 Yeah, I noticed that too. But then again, all my history and art history classes have been at least 70 percent female, and usually it's an even higher percentage than that. (In art history, it's not unusual for classes to be 95 percent female). In order to really know whether the guys are getting smoked, we need to know the female to male applicant ratio. I strongly suspect, also, that the NSERC table would be the reverse, since the sciences have a higher male participation rate. Anyone know? True. 25% of the total awards were given to psychology and fine arts alone, which (i think?) are disciplines with a high female-male ratio.
dramanda Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 So did they announce those Vanier winners today? I can't see any note of it on sshrc or vanier website. List of Vanier recipients: http://www.vanier.gc.ca/results-resultats/2009_e.pdf
dramanda Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 So, according to my theory from an earlier post, it's *possible* that the grad studies offices at our respective universities could have access to the results tomorrow. I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but plan on calling them in the late afternoon to see if anything is available.
synecdoche Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 I talked to someone in my department who received a SSHRC doctoral fellowship last year and she said she heard from the Faculty of Graduate Studies or whatever it is called these days a few days before receiving her letter. She got the e-mail on a Thursday or Friday, and received the letter on Monday. However, she said she knows of people in past years for whom the opposite was the case. So, basically, it might be worth a shot to ask, but knowing my university, they would just ignore the e-mail and send something out when they do the mass notifications.
dramanda Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 I talked to someone in my department who received a SSHRC doctoral fellowship last year and she said she heard from the Faculty of Graduate Studies or whatever it is called these days a few days before receiving her letter. She got the e-mail on a Thursday or Friday, and received the letter on Monday. However, she said she knows of people in past years for whom the opposite was the case. So, basically, it might be worth a shot to ask, but knowing my university, they would just ignore the e-mail and send something out when they do the mass notifications. I happen to have the name & phone number of the appropriate contact at my university. Perhaps you could find the same info? I always find it harder for them to ignore phone calls than emails :wink:
ashleyv Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 The contact at my University said she has been checking the secure website everyday and will let me know as soon as she finds out. I guess I will know before I get my letter in the mail.
dramanda Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 The contact at my University said she has been checking the secure website everyday and will let me know as soon as she finds out. I guess I will know before I get my letter in the mail. ....and then you'll post here to give everyone the 'heads up'?
canuckle Posted May 1, 2009 Posted May 1, 2009 Yeah, I would certainly much appreciate anyone posting as soon as they hear results through their Grad Studies or elsewhere. My school is notoriously uncooperative in such matters--so an indication of when to harass the hell out of them wold be valuable!
ashleyv Posted May 1, 2009 Posted May 1, 2009 I would be happy to let everyone know as soon as I hear... I know how frustrating this process is. It is the least I can do.
sylvinka Posted May 1, 2009 Posted May 1, 2009 I would be happy to let everyone know as soon as I hear... I know how frustrating this process is. It is the least I can do. Well, nothing in the mail in NL today and no reply from our School of Graduate Studies either. Sorry:(
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