practical cat Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 You misread me: I'm all for disagreement. Some people on here don't seem able to tolerate a debate. No, I didn't.
TripWillis Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 I also gotta say that I think it's ridiculous how you guys pile onto a person you don't agree with, as if it's totally abnormal for people to disagree. Academia is all about disagreement and debate! It's better to defend your opinion, instead of attacking another person for having a different one. And I have to say that if one's goal is to diminish anxiety, it does seem rather bad advice to recommend a repetitive, compulsive anxious behavior. Meditation and distraction seem more productive to that end. I'd like to add that I find it distracting (and thus relaxing) to be on gradcafe. This might partly be because my field is so different from English. Listening to you guys kvetch somehow makes me feel better. Also I rarely talk about admissions on here, it seems. Mostly about random other stuff.
damequixote Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 I also gotta say that I think it's ridiculous how you guys pile onto a person you don't agree with, as if it's totally abnormal for people to disagree. Academia is all about disagreement and debate! It's better to defend your opinion, instead of attacking another person for having a different one. Actually, I think lots of disagreement occurs here and on gradcafe at large. In fact, lots of truly cordial disagreements have occurred on the really fun, commonly-studied-thinkers-you-hate thread (that you created). I can only speak for myself when I say that the reason I've downvoted some of thestages's recent posts and often the only reason I downvote or object to a post is the presence of unnecessary rudeness &/ hurtfulness. I think there's a very big difference between academic debate and picking on someone's coping mechanism and psychological support system, a system of which I suspect many of us take advantage. We can create a thread about the virtues of paid professions or the usefulness of psychology at large if you like and debate those, downvote free. Put simply:: There's a reason gradcafe is the only forum I engage with: I just plain don't like it when people are mean for no good reason. There were many nicer ways thestage could have raised his/her argument. S/he chose to be insulting = Downvote. asleepawake, 1Q84, Datatape and 1 other 4
TripWillis Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 Actually, I think lots of disagreement occurs here and on gradcafe at large. In fact, lots of truly cordial disagreements have occurred on the really fun, commonly-studied-thinkers-you-hate thread (that you created). I can only speak for myself when I say that the reason I've downvoted some of thestages's recent posts and often the only reason I downvote or object to a post is the presence of unnecessary rudeness &/ hurtfulness. I think there's a very big difference between academic debate and picking on someone's coping mechanism and psychological support system, a system of which I suspect many of us take advantage. We can create a thread about the virtues of paid professions or the usefulness of psychology at large if you like and debate those, downvote free. Put simply:: There's a reason gradcafe is the only forum I engage with: I just plain don't like it when people are mean for no good reason. There were many nicer ways thestage could have raised his/her argument. S/he chose to be insulting = Downvote. Everything this person said and I was too lazy to say.
practical cat Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 Everything this person said and I was too lazy to say. Yeah, that. And I don't think it's the majority of the commenters on these boards who have problems with defining the boundaries of debate.
Marie-Luise Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 I wish I could unlearn about the existence of gradcafe DontHate, I really like your posts and I do hope we get to be classmates! For the sake of a laugh, here are my stats, you know where I am applying! GPA: (Ireland and Berlin) foreign, doesn't translate, but top five graduate of my college; 3.81 at Notre Dame GRE: 156V/146Q/4.0AW plenty of research experience, a dozen languages, POI talked to chair about me; met with all faculty in person I also wish I could unlearn about the existence of gradcafe! Happy Madness to you all out there!
Marie-Luise Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 *applauds* A dozen or a baker's dozen? *curtsies* Not all to the same degree, though. Some I know better than other and I count my native language among them and English as well. I have no idea what a baker's dozen is. I thought a dozen was 12. Bakers shouldn't mess with that
Datatape Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 A baker's dozen is thirteen. It goes back to the time when rolls and such were sold by weight, and bakers who were selling smaller rolls, which weighed less, could be penalized. Rather than risk it, they would throw in a complimentary thirteenth roll in with the dozen ordered so the weight would be enough to avoid a fine. aGiRlCalLeDApPlE and damequixote 2
TripWillis Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 A baker's dozen is thirteen. It goes back to the time when rolls and such were sold by weight, and bakers who were selling smaller rolls, which weighed less, could be penalized. Rather than risk it, they would throw in a complimentary thirteenth roll in with the dozen ordered so the weight would be enough to avoid a fine. I used to work in a bakery and I didn't know that was why. I just assumed they were being nice.
Marie-Luise Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 How interesting. If I ever get asked that question in a quiz show and I'm on TV, I will have to pay you part of the prize. But I think I will stick to the original dozen, unless you want to argue that anyone who can read Latin and French, can also read Italian (with a dictionary).
Marie-Luise Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 We shouldn't have made this about stats; we should have made this about money! Betting on or against yourselves and taking from and putting money into your own piggy banks.
Vavasor Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 My numbers GPA 3.91 (3.95 in the major) GRE Subject 85th percentile GRE Verbal 95th percentile Applying: U Rochester, Rutgers, Notre Dame, Penn State, WUSTL.
Marie-Luise Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 Vavasor, have you heard from Notre Dame? I am here at the moment and I think they are interviewing people next week. Which programme are you applying to? Vavasor 1
Vavasor Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 Vavasor, have you heard from Notre Dame? I am here at the moment and I think they are interviewing people next week. Which programme are you applying to? Wow! That's convenient. I haven't heard from them. Do you know how long ahead of time they notify the people they plan to interview?
Marie-Luise Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 Oh! I think that all the people to be interviewed next week have already been notified. Sorry! Notre Dame takes its time to notify people. Sorry! Vavasor 1
Vavasor Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 Oh! I think that all the people to be interviewed next week have already been notified. Sorry! Notre Dame takes its time to notify people. Sorry! Well, thanks for the info!
Vavasor Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 Oh! I think that all the people to be interviewed next week have already been notified. Sorry! Notre Dame takes its time to notify people. Sorry! Feel like speculating on my chances at any of the other places I applied?
Marie-Luise Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 Sorry you're pissed off now. But I thought it would be shittier of me to feed false hopes, and, no, I have no idea about your other places. I friend of mine applied to Notre Dame last year and didn't get her rejection until April. I think it's pretty shitty to string people along, that's all.
Vavasor Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 Sorry you're pissed off now. But I thought it would be shittier of me to feed false hopes, and, no, I have no idea about your other places. I friend of mine applied to Notre Dame last year and didn't get her rejection until April. I think it's pretty shitty to string people along, that's all. I'm not pissed off. Sorry if you got that impression. I really am happy for the info (as you say, it's better to know now). I've got some exciting places that I still have to hear back from (including a few where I was wait-listed last year) and it only takes one! So I'm still in pretty high spirits.
Marie-Luise Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 Since we've been betting so much here and there. Have people gotten any more acceptances or rejections? (It has become clear to me at this stage that I am living my life largely through other people's experiences; so please share your story.)
Vavasor Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 On 2/17/2013 at 5:34 PM, Marie-Luise said: Since we've been betting so much here and there. Have people gotten any more acceptances or rejections? (It has become clear to me at this stage that I am living my life largely through other people's experiences; so please share your story.) Well, I'm looking at the board and several people have gotten acceptance phone calls from WUSTL. I'm afraid to step away from my phone! I'm on the west coast so naturally I'd expect to get the call later than someone a little further east. Still, with every passing minute it's seeming less and less likely.
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