invictus Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 Interesting, I got waitlisted as well and got a letter in the mail on Saturday with a slightly revised version of the letter that was emailed. It was more personalized, but no FAQ. Spottedtoad - do you mind sharing?
younglions Posted March 16, 2009 Posted March 16, 2009 Can either of you share when your letters were dated/postmarked, and also in what region you live?
40404 Posted March 16, 2009 Posted March 16, 2009 This is fascinating - it seems like almost everyone has heard already, but I still don't have an answer either way. I am an international applicants, and so far have not notices any U's or I's among the admitted applicants in the results search. Is anyone else in the same boat as I am - someone who has not heard yet? (The other, more disturbing, possibility is that they lost/misplaced/did sth else with my application, or simply forgot about me. Aw.) Hi Pandacamel, I am international too and still haven't heard from WWS. I just want to know now. If its a "no", I'll live anyway. hahaha Goodluck. Let us know once you hear something.
spottedtoad Posted March 16, 2009 Posted March 16, 2009 I think I got the FAQ because I applied to the MPP program, rather than the MPA. Some important facts: 8 people on the list. 0-4 have been accepted off the list in the past, depending on the year. In the past, almost no one was accepted until after May 1st. I'm a little bit screwed, because I have to tell my job if I'm coming back well before May 1st. Moreover, if I say "yes" to my job, I'm effectively telling them to fire one of my (hard-working, talented) colleagues, because of budget cuts. I'd be okay with that (I have a wife and kids, after all) but not if I'm going to turn around (happily) accept Princeton's late offer. This is the problem with only applying to one program, I guess.
invictus Posted March 16, 2009 Posted March 16, 2009 spottedtoad - thanks for the information. Sorry to hear about your dilemma. No easy decisions, that's for sure! It helps to know that you applied to the MPP program. Perhaps the MPA waitlisters will get some similar information with the next round of communication. Did the FAQ describe the selection process off the waitlist? I'm curious if candidates are ranked or if they review the entire pool in order to match applications with specific openings. Thanks again!
40404 Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 I haven't heard from WWS yet... hmmm... not a good sign I emailed the department and said they sent out results last week...nonetheless, the admissions counselor said it was a no for me. Good thing the acceptances came before the rejection, at least I have somewhere to go to this Fall!
clayvos Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 spottedtoad - thanks for the information. Sorry to hear about your dilemma. No easy decisions, that's for sure! It helps to know that you applied to the MPP program. Perhaps the MPA waitlisters will get some similar information with the next round of communication. Did the FAQ describe the selection process off the waitlist? I'm curious if candidates are ranked or if they review the entire pool in order to match applications with specific openings. Thanks again! According to the MPP FAQs: "Once openings occur, all alternate applications are reviewed." That would make sense given the small size of the waitlist pool (only 8 applicants). It seems that there's a viable chance of admission for waitlisted MPP applicants. I would assume the same is true for MPA folks as well.
clayvos Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 By the way, MPP apps were up 30% this year. Just my luck.
invictus Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 clayvos -- Thanks for the information and best of luck!
younglions Posted March 18, 2009 Posted March 18, 2009 For those interested, it seems like the WWS MPA program accepted right around 10% of applicants this year.
Dreams Posted March 18, 2009 Posted March 18, 2009 For those interested, it seems like the WWS MPA program accepted right around 10% of applicants this year. Did you get your financial aid package from WWS yet?
younglions Posted March 18, 2009 Posted March 18, 2009 I haven't actually physically received the package, since I'm living abroad, but my mom told me about the financial aid offer. It's big. Full tuition plus a very very generous stipend.
jmoney Posted March 19, 2009 Posted March 19, 2009 For those interested, it seems like the WWS MPA program accepted right around 10% of applicants this year. I'm curious, what are the raw numbers? Last year, the rate was around 13% with about 800 applicants.
jmoney Posted March 19, 2009 Posted March 19, 2009 Thanks--and wow, that's insane. If they are still aiming for a class of approximately 65, they are likely being conservative this year with admits in case the yield will be unusually higher. So it's possible that there is a deeper waitlist. (Although, it's also possible that the market value of the endowment has fallen so much this year to demand a reduction in class sizes.)
younglions Posted March 19, 2009 Posted March 19, 2009 Sorry, forgot to include that a quite a few people who deferred last year will be entering this year. I don't have the document right now, but it's somewhere between 10-13.
Dreams Posted March 19, 2009 Posted March 19, 2009 Sorry, forgot to include that a quite a few people who deferred last year will be entering this year. I don't have the document right now, but it's somewhere between 10-13. Boy do I feel stupid. Until your post, I was reading the 13 deferrals as 13 applicants waitlisted. Man I need to knock some sense into myself :!:
sisepuede Posted March 19, 2009 Author Posted March 19, 2009 that's ok. for some reason i thought the 13 deferrals were people who somehow were being offered admission for fall 2010. sounds inane now that i write it. :roll:
linden Posted March 19, 2009 Posted March 19, 2009 Does anyone know what class size they are aiming for?
invictus Posted March 19, 2009 Posted March 19, 2009 Does anyone know if the yield percentage represented in the much discussed enrollment data incorporates deferments or if it only pertains to students offered admissions during that year's cycle? There may be no way of knowing, but I think it makes a big difference in terms of our chances of getting off the wait list. If the 66% yield does not incorporate the deferrals then the numbers look bleak. However, if the 66% yield incorporates the deferrals then there may actually be a chance that several people get off the list. Probably not worth over analyzing, but fun (i.e. stress-inducing) to think about.
invictus Posted March 20, 2009 Posted March 20, 2009 I assume the other WWS waitlisters out there also got the waitlist FAQ letter yesterday in the mail? 41 individuals on the wait list with the numbers in years past ranging from 0 - 17 admits of the list. We should hear by the middle of May. That's only ...two months away! I love the way the letter from John Templeton started: "You deserve more." Hell yeah, so just let me in!
linden Posted March 20, 2009 Posted March 20, 2009 I assume the other WWS waitlisters out there also got the waitlist FAQ letter yesterday in the mail? 41 individuals on the wait list with the numbers in years past ranging from 0 - 17 admits of the list. We should hear by the middle of May. That's only ...two months away! I love the way the letter from John Templeton started: "You deserve more." Hell yeah, so just let me in! Aaarggh. Invictus. So, we have between a 0 percent chance and a 40 percent chance. This is killing me. I can't make it till May. I am just going to attend GPPI.
charleyj Posted March 20, 2009 Posted March 20, 2009 not looking good. 98 total admits, including deferrals from last year. 65 spots. 41 alternates. yikes.
invictus Posted March 20, 2009 Posted March 20, 2009 Agreed. The number don't look pretty. I'm also wondering if the yield is going to be high this year considering the economy and lack of generous funding offers at other schools. I think i have to stop thinking about it so much. Enroll elsewhere and be ready to give up my deposit and make a last minute switch in case the waitlist gods are on my side.
linden Posted March 20, 2009 Posted March 20, 2009 I have not yet received this FAQ, since I am overseas. Does it mention if the wait list is ranked?
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