mtlve Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Has anyone tried calling? I reached the voicemail for a lady that works there. I wish that they would just tell us which of the online messages is correct (today vs later in the week). Is that too much? Maybe they are held up by NSF. The website says you have a week to accept their fellowship. Anyone know if you get both, which one do you take 1st. If you take NSF 1st, one would think that they have to wait until NSF is close to announcing. Maybe this is a bad sign for NSF too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scigrad Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 If I were to get the NDSEG I would accept it immediately. - More money than the NSF (by a couple thousand, but no travel support like the NSF grant, so I guess it evens out) - They give out between 1/5 and 1/10 as many NDSEG awards as NSF, anyone who you want to be looking at your CV should know the difference. Can anyone think of any cons? I suppose your CV will have a defense-related stigma, but the way the economy going that isn't necessarily a bad thing. I guess grandma wouldn't know what NDSEG was at thanksgiving dinner, but it's not like they understand why you're in grad school anyway :| Day 2 of waiting commences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechEgirl Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 My field is aero related, so definitely the NDSEG if I had a choice. As for my family, I'm pretty sure I'd get the "that's nice sweetie" that I usually get when I start speaking about what I do. According to my older sister, I make more efficient engines and my brother builds "super secret spy technology". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_ruth Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 If I were to get the NDSEG I would accept it immediately. - More money than the NSF (by a couple thousand, but no travel support like the NSF grant, so I guess it evens out) - They give out between 1/5 and 1/10 as many NDSEG awards as NSF, anyone who you want to be looking at your CV should know the difference. Can anyone think of any cons? I suppose your CV will have a defense-related stigma, but the way the economy going that isn't necessarily a bad thing. I guess grandma wouldn't know what NDSEG was at thanksgiving dinner, but it's not like they understand why you're in grad school anyway :| Day 2 of waiting commences. If you were so blessed as to receive both, I think you can defer the NSF for two years and that way you get five years of funding (two on NDSEG and three on NSF). Do I have this right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtlve Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 You can accept both, but I think there is an order that you have to take them. I do not know this order. In the worst case, the probability of getting NDSEG is 1/2 of NSF chance. I think the probabilities for some of the disciplines are equal. Both of them are a good thing to have on your resume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtlve Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I can no longer find the page that says 30 or 31, so I bet we will not hear today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egosumliber Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Based on this webpage (and talking to the author directly): http://www.stanford.edu/~pgbovine/fellowship-tips.htm you can use both fellowships in five years by: accepting both, deferring the NSF for two years, forfeit the NSF on the third year (to use the 3rd year of the NDSEG), then use the NSF for the last two years (thanks to Philip Guo for this advice). So, in the really-super-awesome case of being offered both, you can get five years out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_ruth Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 Based on this webpage (and talking to the author directly): http://www.stanford.edu/~pgbovine/fellowship-tips.htm you can use both fellowships in five years by: accepting both, deferring the NSF for two years, forfeit the NSF on the third year (to use the 3rd year of the NDSEG), then use the NSF for the last two years (thanks to Philip Guo for this advice). So, in the really-super-awesome case of being offered both, you can get five years out of it. ah, yes! that's what I thought, but missed the part about forfeiting the NSF for one year to get the higher amount from the NDSEG. I plan on applying for NSF again (and again) if I don't get it even in the off chance I do get NDSEG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMehl84 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Received my rejection... J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blah2009 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 FUCK: You have been selected as an alternate in the 2009 National Defense Science and Engineering Graduate (NDSEG) Fellowship competition. You will receive an email notification as to whether you have been selected to receive one of the 2009 NDSEG Fellowships on Monday, April 20. We thank you for your interest in the NDSEG Fellowship Program, and will be in touch soon! Sincerely, The NDSEG Program Team at ASEE Just got it...ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdilks Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Rejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_ruth Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 no go for me. congrats blah on being an alternate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weninger Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I just received the fellowship. My guess is that the emails are going out at the moment. Good luck everyone. Tim Weninger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_ruth Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 I just received the fellowship. My guess is that the emails are going out at the moment. Good luck everyone. Tim Weninger go you rock star! congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtlve Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 negative for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinkididoo Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 no go for me too not that i expected the government to care about studying the ancient earth, but it was worth a try. i think i have a better shot at the NSF anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vannik Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Rejected. I even had a background in defense. I think my GRE scores killed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_ruth Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 can those of you who made it (or are on a waitlist) post some basic stats (gpa, gre, publications, etc.)? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idk123 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 also rejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krastina Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Does anyone know what the chances of being selected as an alternate are? I guess the important question is: am I waiting for someone else to turn down their offer, or for the DOD budget committee to decided that additional funds are available? Seems like the chances are non-existent in the former case - can't really envision anyone turning down this offer, but maybe there's hope for the latter case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vannik Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I'm no expert, but it's my understanding that government spending was budgeted for this as well as other fellowships a while ago. I'd assume if that stimulus package goes through it'll get trickled to next year. Maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scigrad Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 We regret to inform you... congrats to the winners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCV Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I definitely thought this sentence: "NDSEG is very competitive and there were many more qualified applicants than could be funded" was going to read... "NDSEG is very competitive and there were many more qualified applicants than you" Still have the NSF hope alive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachikarn Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 haha, so did I. Just curious, for those who did win, what was the subject of the email? Mine was just "2009 NDSEG Fellowship Notification." Congrats to everyone who won! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weninger Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 can those of you who made it (or are on a waitlist) post some basic stats (gpa, gre, publications, etc.)? Well I got the award. And I am no grad school stud. I got a 730Q/580V have a 4.0 GPA, never took the CS Subject GRE. I did have a Top Secret Clearance and several publications. See http://www.cis.ksu.edu/~weninger if you are interested. I can post my essays if anyone is interested. Good luck to you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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