NanoTech Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 1. MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Caltech 2. Princeton, Harvard, Cornell, Penn, CMU 3. UIUC, MICH, GaTech, UCLA, UTAustin, UW, Columbia, Duke, JHU, Purdue, UO, UA, etc.. I know it's subjective but definitely more realistic than the US News ranking. What do you guys think? But USNews ranked: 1.MIT 2. Stanford 3. Berkeley=UIUC (what?) 5. Caltech=Gatech (are you kidding me?) 7. CMU=Cornell=Michigan 10, Purdue The problem is that schools ranked higher often are easier to get into than schools ranked lower. This is typically true of public schools in the top 10 compared to private schools (e.g., schools like UIUC, Mich, GaTech are not as selective as schools like Cornell, Princeton, Harvard, UPenn despite being ranked higher). I don't know how USNews rank grad schools, but I find it very very odd. Probably the only public school that is more selective than those IVYs is Berkeley. Getting into a higher ranked program than Harvard does not necessarily mean you have a good shot getting into Harvard, it only means you are probably qualified. pi314, NanoTech and Rantar 1 2
TheMostPowerfulApplicant Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 I agree with your ranking for the most part. But I'd make a 4th category cuz I feel that UIUC and GaTech are pretty decent compared to the rest on the 3rd list. Ok Harvard is NOT number 2... they are really bad at Engineering. skyentist, Rantar and pi314 3
NanoTech Posted March 19, 2014 Author Posted March 19, 2014 In terms of selectivity: 1. Caltech, Harvard, Princeton 2. MIT, Stanford, Cornell, Berkeley 3. Yale, CMU, Columbia, Penn, Northwesten, UIUC, Michigan 4. Brown, Duke, JHU, GaTech, UCLA, UW Admitted students (Berkeley EECS seniors, class of '14) most commonly want to go to: 1. MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Cornell, Caltech 2. CMU, UIUC, Michigan, GaTech, Princeton NanoTech, pi314 and Rantar 1 2
Rantar Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) You have a lot of schools that don't belong, and are missing many top EE schools; you are missing UCSD. There are many factors for EE. MIT, Stanford, Caltech, and Berkeley aren't """the best""" for every EE field. There are way too many assumptions/ambiguities in your ratings it seems. It's hard to imagine you could accurately rate these while only attending 1 or 2 of them. Where Berkeley students want to go doesn't decide which programs are best (you seem to have a strong Berkeley bias because I guess you went there?) The problem is that schools ranked higher often are easier to get into than schools ranked lower. This is ass backwards and is NOT a problem. Selectivity has nothing to do with best EE program. Thinking this will lead you to conclude quality improperly. If pride is that important to you, then by all means go to the selective school with a poorer quality EE program. MIT isn't good because it's selective, and isn't neccessarily selective because it's good. Rankings in general are just stupidly innacurrate/misrepresentative, but I find USNews to be more accurate. The best thing you could do to increase accuracy is drop the "selective means good" attitude and categorize EE into circuits/devices/signal processing/comm theory/photonics/etc. USNews does this for CS, but apparently it isn't worth the time for EE. http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/college_guide/rankings_2013/national_university_rank.php At least this ranking website shows their criteria. According to them, Berkeley awards the most science PhD's, but that certainly doesn't make Berkeley a bad graduate school. Edited March 19, 2014 by Rantar Terry O' and pi314 2
justinmcummings Posted March 21, 2014 Posted March 21, 2014 You have a lot of schools that don't belong, and are missing many top EE schools; you are missing UCSD. There are many factors for EE. MIT, Stanford, Caltech, and Berkeley aren't """the best""" for every EE field. There are way too many assumptions/ambiguities in your ratings it seems. It's hard to imagine you could accurately rate these while only attending 1 or 2 of them. Where Berkeley students want to go doesn't decide which programs are best (you seem to have a strong Berkeley bias because I guess you went there?) This is ass backwards and is NOT a problem. Selectivity has nothing to do with best EE program. Thinking this will lead you to conclude quality improperly. If pride is that important to you, then by all means go to the selective school with a poorer quality EE program. MIT isn't good because it's selective, and isn't neccessarily selective because it's good. Rankings in general are just stupidly innacurrate/misrepresentative, but I find USNews to be more accurate. The best thing you could do to increase accuracy is drop the "selective means good" attitude and categorize EE into circuits/devices/signal processing/comm theory/photonics/etc. USNews does this for CS, but apparently it isn't worth the time for EE. http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/college_guide/rankings_2013/national_university_rank.php At least this ranking website shows their criteria. According to them, Berkeley awards the most science PhD's, but that certainly doesn't make Berkeley a bad graduate school. lots of good information there, but your screen name should not relate to how you present it LOL. I felt like you were yelling at me :-\
NanoTech Posted April 28, 2014 Author Posted April 28, 2014 Finally... our (Berkeley EECS seniors, class of '14) top 5 EE grad schools revealed. MIT, Stanford, Cornell, Berkeley, CMU Oh, UCSD is a great school but none of us is moving to La Jolla this year. I also should add UCSB, Purdue, UTAustin, and some other state universities to the list. pi314 1
NanoTech Posted April 30, 2014 Author Posted April 30, 2014 We think selecting just 5 schools is not fair. So we added 5 more and made our own top 10 EE grad schools. Berkeley, Caltech, CMU, Cornell, GaTech, Michigan, MIT, Princeton, Stanford, UIUC Hmm, it's like USNEWS... coincidentally. pi314 1
Gomli2274 Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 (edited) You have a lot of schools that don't belong, and are missing many top EE schools; you are missing UCSD. There are many factors for EE. MIT, Stanford, Caltech, and Berkeley aren't """the best""" for every EE field. There are way too many assumptions/ambiguities in your ratings it seems. It's hard to imagine you could accurately rate these while only attending 1 or 2 of them. Where Berkeley students want to go doesn't decide which programs are best (you seem to have a strong Berkeley bias because I guess you went there?) This is ass backwards and is NOT a problem. Selectivity has nothing to do with best EE program. Thinking this will lead you to conclude quality improperly. If pride is that important to you, then by all means go to the selective school with a poorer quality EE program. MIT isn't good because it's selective, and isn't neccessarily selective because it's good. Rankings in general are just stupidly innacurrate/misrepresentative, but I find USNews to be more accurate. The best thing you could do to increase accuracy is drop the "selective means good" attitude and categorize EE into circuits/devices/signal processing/comm theory/photonics/etc. USNews does this for CS, but apparently it isn't worth the time for EE. http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/college_guide/rankings_2013/national_university_rank.php At least this ranking website shows their criteria. According to them, Berkeley awards the most science PhD's, but that certainly doesn't make Berkeley a bad graduate school. Agree with everything said here. I'm from GaTech going for a PhD at MIT this fall. I think NanoTech has a thing for Berkeley because he went there and the other schools because him or his friends applied. If I was headed to CA I'd choose UCSD or UCLA over Berkeley any day because of the rampant homeless population on Berkeley's campus (my point isn't to put down Berkeley, but to show it's all a matter of preference). I admire anyone from a top 20 engineering school, comparing these schools is just politics though. Comparingly selectivity for graduate programs isn't so reliable either. I got into MIT, Berkeley, UCSD, UCLA, USC UMich, and Penn, but rejected from UW and Columbia. It's all about where you want to be, not where others tell you to go (USNEWS or otherwise). Everyone should just be happy if they get into a strong EE program because that is a big accomplishment Edited April 30, 2014 by Gomli2274 pi314 1
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