Loric
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I wiggled over to that forum as well, thanks.
I almost had an aneurysm when they were like, yea those letters of recommendation from your super busy undergrad faculty, yea you're gonna have to go ahead and get them again when reapply next year. Yeah, no, yeah.
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I think if anything that's a primary reason I probably wont. The other stuff I can "get" so to speak, practice, toil.. etc.. but the recs? Screw that.
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Sorry to hear it, Loric. Rejections always suck, but they're always worse when they're vague, then try to offer suggestions that are equally vague. It really doesn't help anyone involved.
No, it was for exactly the reason I thought.
In other news, they're holding on to my transcripts in case I do reapply at some point down the road, but all the other paperwork has to be resubmitted. Rec, SOP, etc..
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Plus it's extra troubling to know they want people and want interest and such.. But I might get rejected, cuz, "reasons."
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I wish I had more options to apply to. This new program is considered the first foray into recruiting young artists. The field is graying and dying off and they're just realizing the whole veil of secrecy and boys club mentality is killing the industry.
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"None... Or do we charge him for wasting our time..? Decisions.. Decisions..."
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Anywho.. this:
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It's it like 4am over there or something..?
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Oh lord, and to make sure I wasn't imaging what was said to who and when I pulled up the email exchange after the phone calls and the "additional materials" I submitted.
Omg.. omg. omg.. I'm soo not getting in. *headdesk*
You know that feeling when you've forgotten a piece of work and you go back and look at it again and you're like "Gee.. that's crap."
Yeah, that feeling.
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Loric,
I'm guessing you are referring to the film industry and I having been involved I can say that if you want in, you will find a way in. If that is the case, you should realize that film making is a group effort and it takes a TEAM to make something great. It is easy for me to spot the weak link in a film (whether director, writing, acting, casting, music, editing, etc.) and EGOS can kill a project faster than anything. I've seen/read about it time and again. I worked with Bruce Dern awhile ago and at the time got to hear quite a bit about the business. I moved to LA shortly after, and got to know quite about the business while there. There are shady elements just as there can be in the art world, but its up to you to remember who you are and what you truly want. If you love film and desire to make beautiful scenery/art or combine the two you will find a way.
Glad you got a message from someone you admire. Just remember that there are many ways to approach a dream. You may feel shut out- just find another way.
Not film, but similar sort of mindset. The idea of the project's goals being important, not the ego, and the emphasis on the team were actually major points in my SOP.
Too bad my first contact after the submission suggested it hadn't been read. I think I was very nearly cut during that "quick flip through" of the portfolio - my inquiry and subsequent protest probably at least got me into the second round.
Come to think of it, I'm not really sure why the admission rep said what he did to me.. he could have said nothing. I could have simply been given a glance by a few powers that be and easily rejected. I'd probably know the answer by now. Instead he said something.. well, he went out of his way to email the adcom people and then call me as soon as one of them responded.
The one who responded spoke with the royal we, rather, claimed a consensus of thought on my work.. that wasn't pretty. "The consensus is that Mr. Loric needs to show more.."
That phrase is going to haunt my dreams forever. And when it was said to me on the phone by admissions rep I pretty much went into triage. "Well what can I do to show it to them? How much time do I have? How many pieces?" etc..
And going back to.. why'd he say anything...? I have this weird suspicion that if I let him finish the sentence it'd have been something like "..and so we're unable to offer you a place here XYZ at this time." But since I didn't, and whatever happened, happened, my last bit of info is that after my submission that "several people" (adcom members?) were looking at my additional materials "last week" (as of the time of the email asking about a probable timeline.)
I also know that my evaluation is taking a strangely long time, that the program has very unclear guidelines that admissions is working to rework and make clearer, that admissions admits they have no clue about the medium and are learning a lot from the applicants, and that the head of admissions knows about my file because of how long it has taken from start to finish since it went to the committee (apparently deadlines do exist! even if they're ignored!)
So I guess what I'm saying is that if you ever wanted to say it was a simple process.. it's not. I guess this is good, but I can't help but feel for the hard sciences.. they're so used to things being so cut and dry. Maybe it's because we're in the arts that we get more wiggle room, but it doesn't seem like things are all that different on the other side of the fence. And I could have just been declined after that first vague pass.. while right now I pretty much have proof of serious consideration. Sometimes there is a level of luck it seems.
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I guess my point is your dealing with bureaucracies. We'd end up with something more specific that would discourage thinking outside the box.
As someone who applied to an area in the arts that specifically said they'd consider pretty much any form of art/design.. and then being told that the adcom had questions because I didn't show a particular artisan skill.. I can't imagine trying something different would be any worse.
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If people are paying significant money for that, I think I just found myself a side job with our discarded lab glassware.
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I put in for my vacation days next week at work. I'm pretty much "over it" completely.
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Who is that lady and why did she make a video about a Marimo? She doesn't seem to know much about it other than its status as a national treasure in Japan.
I think she makes trendy uniquely shaped Marimo habitats.
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Well, I've said for months that Berkeley is vastly overrated.. and most applicants cant even tell you why they apply there other than "it's the thing to do."
But at the same time, they're inundated with international applicants, never mind the domestic ones, who likely didn't really consider te program, what they want to do, etc.. beyond "Go to Berkeley."
Trying to combat that there's going to be some collateral damage. Many people who would have been perfectly good or even exceptional students will get cut.. and some who will turn out to be terrible mindless morons will get accepted. Such is life.
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So...
You're saying I was right...?
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Well, some encouragement today..
Someone on twitter asked a "friend" of mine in the field why they don't have any sort of stuff to encourage young people to be interested in the industry/art.. yadda yadda.. I retort that the industry is insular and closed to outsiders, but some like myself are persistent.
Like raptors throwing themselves at different parts of the fence looking for a weak spot.
And this industry pro, who knows I'm fighting my way in by force, PM's me "Life finds a way.."
I'm counting that as encouragement from someone I admire in the field.
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Seriously? Yeah, it'd be slightly annoying, but I think I'd much rather get into graduate school if I get an interview than throw a tantrum over something so petty and kill any chance of being admitted to the program.
I've gotten into graduate school, it's not all it's cracked up to be.. and there were definitely little hints of the BS during my interview that I glossed over in my excitement.
Nowadays, if presented the same scenario.. the answer would be "no thanks."
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At this point I'm pretty sure my committee members all have an email in their inbox re: my app and to finish the evaluation. They'll get to it.. Eventually.
I imagine whenever they get a reminder they go "meh, later..."
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In my old program, two people were accepted into my emphasis. I interviewed because I asked to visit. The other student was all on portfolio.
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God, you have a lot of time. I wouldn't give any of those things more than 90 days worth of attention, so you can theoretically do it all.
I did the old test too - 2009 - and i suspect i'd be "teh suck" on the new test because I'm not used to academia and most certainly not for that type of test. Take a practice test and see if it's reasonable to get a "better" score.
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What are you applying for...?
And honestly i'd priceline the whole thing at some absurdly low point for like 4 star and then crash on my own. Hit up betterbidding.com and biddingfortravel.com to see how to get the good hotels dirt cheap.
Submit CV instead of resume?
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You can submit whatever you want, as long as you acknowledge there's some who will reject you outright just on "Did not follow instructions."
Those people LOVE rejecting people for that one, so they seek it out.
But otherwise, you face a 50/50 chance no one will ever even read it anyways.