HardyBoy
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14 hours ago, telkanuru said:
Oh, then yeah, that's doubly trash. If a place has enough money to help fund its MA students (and you shouldn't go otherwise), then it values the program enough that you'll get something good out of it.
It's also worth bearing in mind that sometimes non-top MA programs (whatever that means to you) might surprise you by having funding. Mine didn't have a PhD program, so we were paid as TAs, and it also had paid internships as part of its public history program. So definitely look for MA funding -- it's hard to find, but out there!
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3 minutes ago, history202- said:
Yeah, I guess if Princeton also decided to only admit a handful of students, then it is certainly possible that others are not on this site.
I do know that Princeton trimmed its cohort size a little, but not like other schools (I think down to about 20 from about about 25, but don't quote me on that).
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9 minutes ago, tulips23 said:
I think someone in the art history forum reached out to a Princeton administrator who said that results are not expected until late Feb/early March, so it might be a while longer...
Just popping in to note that there is not a connection between the Princeton history and art history departments, so the decision time of one is not related to the other. (I'm sorry I have no other insight into when Princeton's decisions will be out!)
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@Strider_2931 definitely Wailoo, but I'm also thinking of Barnes as a cultural historian, as well as Wirzbicki and Wilentz.
The history and HOS programs at Princeton have separate application processes, but they are pretty tightly connected, so you can work with people on both sides. If that interests you, you might consider reaching out to Wailoo and see if he seems interested.
FWIW, I sort of fell into HOS, without a deep background. That's definitely the less common path, as far as I can tell, but it does happen.
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On 10/28/2020 at 9:02 PM, Strider_2931 said:
How did US public health journals and missionary writings about public health over the course of the nineteenth and early twentieth century define and imagine the Midwest? How did these publications imagine the development of healthy populations in the Midwest compared to overseas territories, the West, and the South? In contrast, how did local sites in the Midwest consider their history, their place in the nation, and their future, in the development of their sanitation and public health programs?
Have you considered applying to HSTM (History of Science, Technology, and Medicine) programs? I can think of advising combos at Princeton that might be cool for your project.
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15 hours ago, hojoojoh said:
Waitlisted at Princeton a few hours ago. Any insight into how this works there would be of HUGE help.
Is it ranked by department or by field? What does this mean for my chances to visit (I'm international)? Should I reach out to people outside the admissions office (POI, department admin)?
@HardyBoy, perhaps you can help?
Here's to hoping more news comes this week. Good luck everyone.
Edit: dipping back into 2014 and further, I see that Princeton almost never (actually never?) takes people off the waitlist. Bummer.
Congrats on even getting waitlisted! I'm afraid I don't know much about the process in terms of ranking, but I think it makes sense to contact your POI and reiterate your enthusiasm for the program, etc. Will you DM me your POI? I might be able to offer more specific advice.
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Congrats to Princeton admits, if you're lurking here! Feel free to DM with questions.
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17 hours ago, snackademic said:
Anyone have insight into what's going on with Princeton or Columbia?
I don't have much insight, but I do know that Princeton has been in the midst of several hiring searches, so I would not be surprised if decisions are a bit later this year.
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16 hours ago, AP said:
If you can travel, enjoy them because they are really fun and you'll get to see your future colleagues up close. I envied those in my cohort who made it to the visit because they were friends on the first day!
I do want to add that, if you are trying to decide between schools and you can afford to cover any difference between the reimbursement they offer and the cost of going, do go to visit weekends. Mnay of the deciding factors for me were things that I learned in person during visits. Plus, it's definitely your last chance to feel courted by a school for a while (ever?), so enjoy it!
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Just popping in to wish everyone good luck as they wait! I was in your shoes last year and know how miserable that wait can be, so my thoughts are with you. I second the advice here to do something healthy, go for a walk, hang out with friends -- all the sorts of things you'll need to do to take care of yourself in grad school, too.
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Has anyone gotten a result on graduate housing yet? The incoming students page says "Housing offers are being issued on a rolling basis over the next few weeks to all on time applicants." The wait is driving me bonkers.
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I have a Lenovo ThinkPad 13 that has served me very well for 3 years (I even spilled an entire beer on it the first day I had it and, aside from a couple of sticky keys, it was no worse for the wear). However, I'm thinking about springing for a Surface headed into the PhD program, because the ability to annotate documents on a tablet screen is super appealing. Does anyone have a Surface who is willing to share their experiences?
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@IndianGirl2019 they told us mid-March during the visit. If I were you, I think I would just reach out to Davis and explain the situation. They can probably give you more details, even if they can't give the official offer yet. The current students were very confident that everyone gets five years of funding.
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9 hours ago, IndianGirl2019 said:
Is there anyone accepted to the PhD program at UC Davis, History who has heard about funding or has info about funding? I have another offer at hand from McGill, which is a fully funded PhD and I was still holding out for Davis because my POI in Davis is one of the top historians of my specialization. The letter of offer said funding details will follow soon, mid-march but then I have to accept/reject the offer before that! I have already taken an extension till 15th but now am at my wit's end, I have emailed my POI who said funding info has not yet been decided. Is there anyone who can help me with this decision? Does the UC Davis, History program offer full funding for 5 years, or not?
I also got into UC Davis and have yet to hear about funding. We have until April 15, to make the decision, though. Did McGill tell you only March 15? That's totally weird.
From what I understand, UC Davis History definitely offers full funding for 5 years. They reiterated that multiple times during our visit.
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9 hours ago, daradara said:
@TsarandProphet @Dark Paladin @potsupotsu @HardyBoy
Thoughts on the Yale visit? (If you made it)
I had a great time on my Yale visit, though I'm HSHM, so I know it was a little different. The students and faculty I met were all warm and the intellectual environment seemed exciting. But then, that has been true of my other campus visits, too, so decisions are tough!
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11 hours ago, psstein said:
I could've sworn I'd replied to this last night.
Anyway, to answer your questions: none of Princeton, Yale, or Wisconsin have too much trouble placing their graduates within broader history programs. In Wisconsin, you're encouraged to take courses outside of HoS. Besides, we merged in July 2017, so it's the same department overall. There's an option here for a joint HSMT/History degree, which is apparently far easier than it used to be. It's also worth understanding that the history of science field as it currently exists is far removed from the highly technical, internalist histories of science produced in the 1960s and 1970s. Outside of a few scholars (Heilbron and Shank are the two most notable ones), highly technical work is in disrepute and has been for some time.
We have a fine relationship with history here, and I'd imagine Princeton does as well, since they're technically a subsidiary of the broader history department. I don't know much about Yale, but I imagine they're okay as well. These are questions you ought to ask at the respective visitation days.
Thanks @psstein! This has been my feeling as well (and definitely something I will be asking about on visit days), but I've gotten such confusing feedback that I thought it might be helpful to hear from people who are in no way connected to my decision-making process.
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Hi everyone, I'm reviving this thread because I am totally torn about me schools decisions, and hoping some of the HOS folks on this board might help. My interests tend to sit at the intersection of environmental history and history of science and technology. I'm not a 100% committed HOS person (is that a thing?), but I definitely enjoy History of Science. I went to SHOT last year and found it to be totally up my alley. That said, I don't want to be too far removed from the straight history side of things.
I've been accepted to both HOS and History programs, and I've gotten extremely conflicting advice from mentors and POIs. Some feel it doesn't matter at all if I do HOS; others are certain it will make it harder for me to get the broader history experience and hurt me on the job market.
What do you guys think? What have your experiences with the interaction of history and history of science departments been like? And, for those of you in programs, what has that looked like for your peers on the job market?
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Probably a long shot, but is anyone else flying to Hartford on 3/3 and wants to split an Uber to New Haven? DM me.
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This is my first time going through this, too, but I can give you advice based on how I feel. To me, not only are the visit days a crucial chance to get a feel for the personality of the program and to try to get a sense of whether you'll be happy there, but they seem like good opportunities to put some "what ifs" to rest. If, for example, you choose school A without going to school B, and then later (probably inevitably) learn that School A is not perfect, you might always wonder if you would have chosen School B if you'd visited. But if you visit both, it might 1) affirm your decision to choose School A; 2) give School B a chance to surprise you, and 3) allow you to know that you made your decision with all the possible information at your disposal.
One of my visits is at the end of March, so I get the frustration with the decision-making process stretching out so long. But IMO, increasing the confidence in your decision is worth it.
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Congrats to the Penn HSS admit!
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Thanks all for your input! That's what I'd been thinking, so I'm glad to have confirmation that I'm not way off base.
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I know the question of asking about finalists for a job was discussed recently, but I have a related question that I would like some feedback on for proper etiquette: One of the schools where I've been accepted is in the middle of hiring, and the position has the potential to be quite relevant to my work. In that case, is it OK to inquire (maybe while I'm visiting) about whether they expect to make a decision on that position soon, or is it still bad form? Depending on who it is, it might impact my decision.
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Thanks for responding! I've been trying to mostly gut -- or at least read the intro, TOC, and book reviews. I've just hit a rough patch and trying to get through. On the plus side, my prep meeting schedule is such that I'll have a few weeks before the exams to go back and refresh. I hope it'll be enough. Such a weird/stressful process.