eggsalad14
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It's also getting close to "going home" time in the east so it's very possible they'll take a break from sending emails today before doing more some other day.
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Yes, thanks you! I am still in shock!!! American/methods
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I got something just now. They're probably getting to them one by one.
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Me: admission rates are really not comparable to each other and are not a worthwhile statistic Also me: hey everyone I found some cool data on Michigan's admit and yield rates https://tableau.dsc.umich.edu/t/UM-Public/views/RackhamDoctoralProgramStatistics/ProgramStatistics?:embed=y&:showAppBanner=false&:showShareOptions=true&:display_count=no&:showVizHome=no&FOSDParameter=All+Rackham
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Same ughhhhhhh. Mine of them came at the end of the week last year but honestly who knows when things are exactly coming at this point AAAAHHH
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At the same time, even though I am so so curious, I sort of question what exactly the value of admissions rates are. My money is on Ohio State being somewhat higher than similar-ranked schools, because IIRC they don't waitlist and they don't reject based on "I think this kid will end up at Harvard." Unfortunately, there are always caveats that make these simple admission rates statistics impossible to compare to each other: 1. The waitlist: Some schools rely heavily on the waitlist, others, like Ohio State, don't use the waitlist at all. Being waitlist heavy will mean you can have a smaller acceptance rate, even though you'll substantively end up with the exact same kind of class as a school with a much higher acceptance rate that doesn't abuse the waitlist. 2. Yield protection. In undergrad we may have heard of the term "Tufts syndrome," where very-good-but-not-the-best schools sometimes preemptively waitlist or reject top-tier applicants that they think will end up elsewhere. I've heard of so many people (including a professor of mine) who got into top 10s and top 15s but got rejected from mid-ranked (30-60) schools. Maybe the fit between the school and the people are bad, or maybe they figure it's not worth competing with Harvard. Similar to the waitlist problem. 3. Popular schools that get more "immediate no" applicants. I'm talking the Harvard, Yale, schools near DC, and probably big sports schools like Michigan. These have big names and are popular places for people who probably have no business applying to a poli sci phd like to apply to (we're talking the "what's APSR?" and "I want to be president" types). This makes comparisons to schools like Rochester pretty hard, because very few people who know nothing about academic political science are going to apply to Rochester. There's some old data out there that compares GRE schools of cohorts among schools, and if we're looking at an easy selectivity-type ranking, that's probably the best thing to use.
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You're right, I saw those 6 bunched together and didn't realize that the last one was actually a really late report from 2018. I'll edit accordingly.
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I haven't been able to find Ohio State overall acceptance rates, it seems like those aren't published. Northwestern hovers around 10% each year, and it seems that maybe about 20-30% of those are reported on gradcafe.
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Don't ask me about standard deviation though, there confidence intervals are probably pretty wide ???
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I mean, I'm riding off of pretty poor methodology here, but if I had to bet money, it would be that there are very few if any left. Here's my thought process. Ohio State, the other "top" school that has released decisions, has 10 acceptances this year, last year there were 12. It is known that Ohio State's admits are all out. Assuming static amounts of people accepted into the program, we can conclude that gradcafe is probably slightly less popular than it was last year. The results page from last year has a count of 9 acceptances for Northwestern, and this year there are 5. Assuming that nothing has really changed (ie one school this year decided to become a lot more or less selective), the expected amount of acceptances on the results page is 7.5, which means it's very very plausible that there's little if anything left. [edit: I had counted wrong and there are actually five this year and 9 last year, although that doesn't change the conclusions too much when we add more data. On my really rushed count, we have 6 in 2017, 8 in 2016, 6 in 2015, 7 in 2014, 10 in 2013, 5 in 2012. The substantive conclusion still is that it is very very unlikely that we'll see another full wave of acceptances.]
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Guys just also note that historically for northwestern, a denial usually comes along with a month or so of silence after acceptances are made. I don't know which subfield decisions are out by now, but the longer it goes on, the higher the likelihood that their non-response means rejection.
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Looking towards next week, it seems like it should be a busy week from last year's data. (I really hope so because I am A N X I O U S) Relative to last year, the following schools were expected to have already released decisions: Emory, Penn State, the rest of Northwestern (if there's anything left?) Note: Northwestern has historically sent rejections and some waitlists a lot later than acceptances, so we might not hear more for a while. Relative to last year, the following schools are expected to release decisions by next Friday: Duke, Berkeley, UC Davis, Princeton, NYU, UCSD
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That seems craZy and almost unbelievable that they admit 30 comparative and IR but only 4 American, seeing as they have many Americanists on faculty. Edit: Actually looking at the distribution of current grad students that's roughly believable but wow that's so surprising.
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It seems realistic enough. Last year's results have 2 interview notices, both in early Feb, so I can see it being possible that it's real. Plus, I feel like trolls usually try to hit us where it hurts (and by that I mean Stanford and Harvard admissions)
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Would it hurt if I contacted the POI?
eggsalad14 replied to doodlejump's topic in Political Science Forum
I have some kind of harsh sounding question clusters for you. 1. If they ignored you the first time, why do you think they won't ignore you again? If they intentionally ignored you the first time, do you the first time, is emailing them really going to do you any favors? 2. Why are you really trying to get in contact with them, especially at this point? Are you hoping they'll do you a favor and advocate for your admission? 3. Why do you need to reach the POIs? What are you saying to them beyond "hi my name is xxx and I'm applying for your program"? -
The less you know, the better
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It looked like it was for a joint Poli sci and public affairs program so it may be different from the rest of our regular Poli sci applications
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Imagine being so committed to yearly trolling a bunch of 23 year olds
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Wondering the same thing. Historically I know they've done some phone calls before sending the email, so idk what's going on here. But I'm also not trying to rule out that maybe there are multiple waves of rejections ???
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When did y'all get the Emory email? Have you had any correspondence with them prior?
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Guys let's be realistic here. Like 8 OSU acceptances on the results page and you don't think any of them are IR? Despite the fact that pretty much every year acceptances are centered around about 2 days, and that it is known that acceptances come from the department itself, and not a single coordinator or anything.
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Almost definitely a troll. They never release this early, plus when they do they release them pretty much all at once. I don't think it's really a good idea to reach out to a POI at this stage. Sounds like desperate last minute hoping that they'll do you a favor and advocate for your admission (they won't).
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I don't think Ohio State waitlists for admission. I've heard they sometimes have to waitlist for funding depending on how much departmental money they have in combination with how students fare in the university-wide fellowship competition. Historically it looks like acceptance notifications have centered around 1-3 consecutive days, and all others are rejections.
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If you compare the schools that released decisions this year to this time last year, it's pretty similar. Maybe we're all a less anxious bunch ?
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Yeah the portal. No email yet so I guess it could be a fluke lol
