psychologygengar

fuck. got a 3/15 update. then it disappeared and i'm back to 2/1/21...

Wait what is this panel review period? Is this Round 1 or 2? Anyone get a March update yet? Edit: wait, if the panel review was from 12/1-1/15...then that means the Feb update would have been the results of that...God this is nerve-wracking. Only the presence of a March update will tell.

You mean that the date is in red, right? I'm unable to click my Statement and Disclosure tabs at all.

yeah last year mine didn't make it out of december. no updates beyond the day i submitted my app, and no verified email.

mine is also blank. Any recent updates? my last one was 11/5 still...

Really depends on you. I know some people who are all about fit. They'd be fine with publishing few or no papers, if they can do interesting-ish work in a nice environment. I met one who basically told me she no strong research interests at all, and just wanted a PI who was supportive and would let her graduate on time. To be fair, she not only had a BS and a MS from elite institutes, but was also pursuing a PhD at another elite institute and thus had some more postgrad options (i.e., finance/consulting companies that hire for prestige) than most of us. Conversely, I know people who are all about hard accomplishments. They don't really care if they like their PI or group members, only that they are able to publish in great journals, and frequently. In your situation, they would be eternally tormented by "What if?" if they went with option 2. One of my mentors confessed that he benefited from PIs who were "slightly dicks", because they would push him and be brutal with him but not too much. If we go more extreme, I know someone who refused to date until he got a Science paper, and who basically said that nothing his PI did/said could be as bad as his parents. And of course, there's how much you value scientific freedom. If you're someone who's like "Oh I need to do research on this subject", then you're better off not working with a micromanaging PI. Personally, for me, it would depend on how dickish PI 1 is, and what his attrition rate is. Like there's a difference between "raising his voice and telling you your ideas are stupid but giving you suggestions" and "screams at you for thirty minutes straight until you cry and then encourages the rest of the group to dogpile on you". I'd be okay with the former, especially given his output, but not the latter. That's not a big price to pay for such high impact work. And on that note, if almost every single grad student or postdoc can graduate in a timely manner with that many great pubs, I'd just go for it. But if there's constant mastering out, people mysteriously quitting, then eh. It's all about your odds.

Heyo, Rob says no emails until they make decisions. So yeah I guess we're just here with these ambiguous updates...

Big oof. I'm emailing Rob tomorrow to ask about validation. I'm kinda nervous that I didn't get an update this week, but hopefully my 12/5 update was a good sign...

Thanks! This sounds like a mess, frankly. You'd think they would just cover up the dates, if they're not going to explain what they mean... Also, did anyone get an email regarding validation? I haven't ?

I've been living under a rock...what do the update dates mean? Edit: I submitted at like 2 PM on 11/2, and my last update is 11/5.

yeah i called nsf and they said there was absolutely no way they would accept late letters. sorry to hear about this

i heard they had a lot of apps this year. so things might get sent out later.

big oof. i put the baa file name in the baa title field, submitted, and just realized they probably wanted the specific research area (like life sciences instead of "navy baa"). :/// ...do you think they'll dock me for this? i did write the specific area in my reserach proposal though.

Just turned in my app. Wish I started earlier (my statement could be a bit heavier on broader impacts I think). Just hoping 5 pubs will carry me through.