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I mean, presumably the people in this forum are going to get their degrees and become part of a generation of academics, correct? It has no effect on anyone personally, but the idea that an anti-intellectual atmosphere is being fostered among people that will eventually be heads of their fields is absurd, non?

I'm not trying to be a jerk--I think there are some salient aspects of academia to be discussed here. The philosophy of education and what we value as academics is a major part of the scholarly process.

I only mean to inspire conversation, and the fact that my screen says "8 new messages" since I started typing this means I'm doing just that. But if you just want to circlejerk all over each other, please be my guest, I won't stop you

EDIT: ImWantHazPHD's gif sums this up really well

Oh stop overreacting. I don't even care about the "canon", but there is not a single possible framework you can use to justify Eggers and Rowling over Joyce and Pynchon. All a statement like that says (and especially the criticisms of Joyce that show a complete unfamiliarity with his work) is that this person has no business in an English department--they can't think critically, and their intellectual comprehension is nonexistent.

I'm just stating the facts--if you want to get into academia, the holistic holding hands approach is pointless. I like Pound's notes on the Wasteland manuscript--forceful and not putting up with bullshit.

What's it like to be illiterate and pursuing an English PhD?

Seriously LOL'ed
 
I would give you a fellowship right away.

Oh stop overreacting. I don't even care about the "canon", but there is not a single possible framework you can use to justify Eggers and Rowling over Joyce and Pynchon. All a statement like that says (and especially the criticisms of Joyce that show a complete unfamiliarity with his work) is that this person has no business in an English department--they can't think critically, and their intellectual comprehension is nonexistent.

I'm just stating the facts--if you want to get into academia, the holistic holding hands approach is pointless. I like Pound's notes on the Wasteland manuscript--forceful and not putting up with bullshit.

Yup, saying something factual meant to elevate the conversation? My bad bro, I should know better

Check out Charles Bernstein's "Attack of the Difficult Poems"--in one of the essays early on he talks about Buffalo and the general shift of other PhD programs away from just creating critics to creating scholars who can write critically and creatively, and teach both.

I know a large part of getting my PhD is to study things related to my personal poetics that I'm developing, as well as make me more marketable as a writer.

You said on a different post that this forum is "easy to troll." I used my amazing powers of deduction to conclude that you are, in fact, a troll. And you haven't done much to dissuade me from that stance since.

Every MFA I've talked to HATES Creative Writing PhDs. They talk nonstop about how they're worthless and do nothing but attempt to lower the value of current MFAs...and that most people don't take them seriously at all.

That's just what I've been told tho. YMMV

Every MFA I've talked to HATES Creative Writing PhDs. They talk nonstop about how they're worthless and do nothing but attempt to lower the value of current MFAs...and that most people don't take them seriously at all.

That's just what I've been told tho. YMMV

Every MFA I've talked to HATES Creative Writing PhDs. They talk nonstop about how they're worthless and do nothing but attempt to lower the value of current MFAs...and that most people don't take them seriously at all.

That's just what I've been told tho. YMMV

Check out Charles Bernstein's "Attack of the Difficult Poems"--in one of the essays early on he talks about Buffalo and the general shift of other PhD programs away from just creating critics to creating scholars who can write critically and creatively, and teach both.

I know a large part of getting my PhD is to study things related to my personal poetics that I'm developing, as well as make me more marketable as a writer.

Just verifying that these are, indeed, the only reasons to pursue postgrad lit/lit-derivative studies. Speaking as someone who's probably going to crap out and opt for law instead, so I wanted to check whether I'm missing anything.
(besides unrelenting passion for the written word etc etc)

Two Espressos, I'm with you. I really can't tolerate the heat.

But, I accepted anyway. The department was great on so many levels. It's a good fit for me.

Decision made! I'm headed to UT-Austin!

I woke up to lovely news - in off the waitlist for UT-Austin! They said I'm getting the full funding package. So excited!

Aeplo--totally agree about the heat, August is going to be miserable.

And I love how uptight and defensive people get on these boards (so easy to troll!)-- forget pretentious douchebags, a lot of people need to take themselves a whole lot LESS seriously.

And for the record, the two worst states are Nebraska and North Dakota.

Aeplo--totally agree about the heat, August is going to be miserable.

And I love how uptight and defensive people get on these boards (so easy to troll!)-- forget pretentious douchebags, a lot of people need to take themselves a whole lot LESS seriously.

And for the record, the two worst states are Nebraska and North Dakota.

This is honestly the stupidest reason to think about schools. Go for good programs with good funding that fit you--the idiotic stereotypes you have about a state just make you seem like a jackass when you put it like that.

This is honestly the stupidest reason to think about schools. Go for good programs with good funding that fit you--the idiotic stereotypes you have about a state just make you seem like a jackass when you put it like that.

This is honestly the stupidest reason to think about schools. Go for good programs with good funding that fit you--the idiotic stereotypes you have about a state just make you seem like a jackass when you put it like that.

Aeplo--totally agree about the heat, August is going to be miserable.

And I love how uptight and defensive people get on these boards (so easy to troll!)-- forget pretentious douchebags, a lot of people need to take themselves a whole lot LESS seriously.

And for the record, the two worst states are Nebraska and North Dakota.

Aeplo--totally agree about the heat, August is going to be miserable.

And I love how uptight and defensive people get on these boards (so easy to troll!)-- forget pretentious douchebags, a lot of people need to take themselves a whole lot LESS seriously.

And for the record, the two worst states are Nebraska and North Dakota.

Aeplo--totally agree about the heat, August is going to be miserable.

And I love how uptight and defensive people get on these boards (so easy to troll!)-- forget pretentious douchebags, a lot of people need to take themselves a whole lot LESS seriously.

And for the record, the two worst states are Nebraska and North Dakota.

This is honestly the stupidest reason to think about schools. Go for good programs with good funding that fit you--the idiotic stereotypes you have about a state just make you seem like a jackass when you put it like that.

Aeplo--totally agree about the heat, August is going to be miserable.

And I love how uptight and defensive people get on these boards (so easy to troll!)-- forget pretentious douchebags, a lot of people need to take themselves a whole lot LESS seriously.

And for the record, the two worst states are Nebraska and North Dakota.