Hopin'-n-Prayin'

For me, the Rutgers reject was expected (my wife is more bummed, cuz her family is in central Jersey)...my real news will come hopefully via post later today, when I hear from UW-M, and for good news in that regard, I am Hopin'-n-Prayin' P.S.: Monster, you sound so much warmer...and closer today...remember, this AINT Brooklyn missy- minimum of SPF 15 at all times!!!!

And another one bites, another one bites, another one bites the dust: Rutgers I think its clear at this point that I'm no Safferz or emerald54 or telemaque or...you get the message... come on UW-M funding!!! I understand these letters have been mailed...

Hooray for SToF!!! we are in the exact same boat- great admit, now waiting on funding decision/info... ...welcome to the great-wait, phase 2! (stupid empty spam folder of mine!!)

I am administering a world civ mid-term as we speak...I love the smell of sizzling brain cells in the morning...

ha ha... getting ready for the 305, I see (where it will be 80-85 and mostly sunny all month...)

classic...and you have great writers...

oseirus, Can you be the ghost of frederick jackson turner and call UW-M and tell them that if they dont give me guaranteed multi-year funding, you are going to sick the ghost of joseph mccarthy on them...

Thanks for the info...I guess we'll see what 'real soon' means in the land of ice and cheese... if you don't mind me asking (and I guess more importantly, if you dont mind answering...) does your alternate status for that award mean that as of now you have no funding, or that you have some lesser funding that doesn't hold up to the UT offer?

I will also say that Jay Z is a fine producer and one of the better marketers of my generation...I'd much rather be him than me...all I can do that he cant is rhyme at will ...i also think that most rap fans (especially the younger generation) have little or no idea of the inherent connection between rap and rhyme and the history of rap (and hip-hop, which is not the same thing) on the streets of NYC, it may be different these days, but from the late '70s through well, Jay Z, rapping and rhyming were necessarily conjoined, they absolutely defined each other... any way, reasonable minds can differ...gotta go nite-nite- feel free to rip me in abstentia, I'll read about in the morning...

reasonable doubt was defintiely Jay Z's best album, but it also came out like in 1994, and he was being mentored by Biggie- when Biggie was killed circa 1997, Jay lost his flow...big-time...he 'jumped the shark' ...you know when I was 10, "the A-team" was my favorate show and my favorate person in the world was B.A. Baracus. When my mom had the nerve to tell me that Mr.T was not a great actor, I boycotted dinner for a week...in the entertainment world, talent and popularity sometimes run askew, and growing up, we tend to become convinced of the greatness of our favorates...

Good luck goldie- sure was a long time ago that you created this thread (back then, I was just a lurker- round here...)

that makes the disjointed lyrics sound better...

Ok! Ok! Ok! The self-professed musical connesieur of the forum readily acknowledges the error of, and retracts in its entirety, the Jay-Z/Ja-Rule fiasco. Lets pretend I never mentioned Ja-Rule! Jay-Z still can't rhyme...lets do this...go listen to an eminem song and then listen to Jay-Z- who is the better lyricist...now do the same with Snoop and Jay Z... then Biggie and Jay Z...Jay Z gets housed every time its an uncomfortable reality for many: being Beyonce's husband does not make him a great rapper- and neither does his rapping ability...

CnI- one of the things that distinguishes rap as a creative art, is the rhyme, the two are hard to separate...Snoops then ground-breaking spell rhyming (S-n-double-o-p D-o-double-g-y D-o-double-G ya see) is still copied by nearly all rappers today...young kids on the corner are convinced they are the next big thing because they can rhyme...street rapping, aka free-styling, is totally about the rhyme... ...is it possible to rap effectively and entertainingly (?) without rhyming? I suppose, but not the way Jay-Z does it...at least not for me...fool's multi-platinum, though, so I am in the minority on this one I guess...

remember, I pre-emptively declared myself correct in my assessments....but seriously, what was I thinkin... Ja-Rule? what about eminem and ludacris...these two cats went crazy with jams about 10 yrs ago...not a big Jay Z fan, or 50 or lil wayne or nas or kanye...

In light of Diddy's indiscretions, I have replaced him with Ja-Rule in my line-up of great rappers from the early 2000s (what, no Jay-Z, you ask? Rapping is rhyming, and Jay-Z cannot rhyme. Its almost like he has a religious objection to rhyming when he raps...though I do remember about 10 years ago when my ring tone was a music only version of Big Pimpin'...Oseirus, I'll take some dap if you dont mind...

Since we are comparing music and culture over the recent eras, allow me... The early 90s jammed! PJ, STP, Smashing Pumpkins, Nirvana, the Femmes, U2 (ok, every era of music can claim U2...), Black Crowes, Alice in Chains, 10,000 maniacs, Cranberries- to name only a few... ...not to mention the oldies of the day were still goodies: Aerosmith, Joe Walsh, Tom Petty, Sound Garden, Prince, The Stones, The Boss ...oh you say Hip-Hop and rap were your style: Snoop and Dre, Naughty by Nature, Cypress Hill, House of Pain, A tribe called Quest, Biggy and 2pac I was born in the early 70s, so I say for music the ranked list of eras goes like this: 1. Early to mid 90s, see above 2. Early to mid 70s, very 90s-ish but the aesthetics give the 90s the edge (that is the 70s aeshetics give the 90s the edge by default) 3.Mid to late 60s, very top heavy with legendary talent: Doors, Stones, Jimi, Janis, Beatles 4. Late 80s- rock got a little harder (GNR) a little more soulful (U2, INXS) and rap was strong (Kool J, Majic Mike, NWA and PE) t5 Late 70sto early 80s, Disco and bubble gum pop get all the pub, but the Rap pioneers were GREAT (Curtis Blow, Slick Rick, Run DMC) t5 Early 2000s, strong rappers (Nelly, Snoop, Ja-Rule) and pop was actually at its best (Destiny's Child, Christina Aguilera) Not Ranked: The 50s: Over-rated bubble gum stuff, lyris were as shallow as the rips Mid 80s: only a little better music-wise, but the hair and clothes were everybit as cheesy as the music Last 8-10 years: The hip-hop and rap is all re-cycled bling-n-babe trash, the rock sounds like they are in pain when they sing, at least I am in pain when they sing (that means you nickle-back) OK, youngin', there's your contemporary music history lesson. Some other members who are as old as me may disagree...but they're wrong. This is the definitive source for the musical hierarchy over the past 50-60 years... That was fun, but took way too long...back to work...

I made the band...the UPenn reject band!!!! aint they heard????

32 is young by today's standards (says the guy who will be 39 in 2 weeks)... My wife has lived in jersey, brooklyn, LA and so. fla. and now i'm fixing to drag her to (hopefully!) madison...she says she's down for it, so we'll see... btw...I was told, and subsequently reported here, that funding info was coming out of UW-M late last week...looks like my intel was bad...sorry all...

Thanks Rox, this helps me understand how little I understand and congrats!!

Wow, what a great batch of responses...thanks all for such a wide array of enlightening morsels... To respond briefly to a few of the individual comments- I would only want to simplify the comparison in the hopes of deriving some instantaneous grasp on what art history is...it seems that I might have to do more than stick a toe in the water, however... Second, my perceived ignorance stems from...well, ...ignorance. I'm not trying to minimize the value of art history- it just seems to have fallen under my radar (not, hard given my radar's limited breadth) for many years... I think I've had the impression that art history combined the subject matter from my Humanities class back in community college in the early '90s (TCC, oseirus) with like a fine arts degree... I don't know... Based on what sparky, LLajax, Hugh 10 and Ganymede have said, my interest is piqued...thanks guys!!

works for me...I speak...and think...clumsy...

In order: 1. yes, search string for "history" 2. no, but I am vaguely aware that history is not just about the study of war and religion...(sarcasm)... 3.so are you saying that art history is more akin to religious history or military history in that it is part of the main thoroughfare of historical study and its practical utility is not limited to 'art appreciation' or the like? 4. got it... Thanks much for the insight sparky...one of the reasons I look forward to a full-on PhD program in history is because the MA at my underfunded state U. could only scratch the surface of culural history as a part of the discipline, and there is no course I am aware of (in my MA program) that can really do justice to the subject matter (art history) and its value into mainstream historical study like you indicated... I really thought that there was a mad dash by students to become curators at the Met...

I'm confused about why I see so many art history applicants on the results board...History (regular) is required curriculum in every A.A. and B.A. program, so at least there is an 'artificial' demand for a steady supply of history professors, but what kind of demand is there for teachers (or practitioners) of art history? any insights...?

jewish grandparents living in Aventura?!?!?!? How unlikely....