Anonposter84

katherine newman is also at princeton and does qual

being optimistic is fine. but its also important to be realistic. its all about expectations: if you're hoping to get an academic gig anywhere and dont care about location, money or institution/department quality (in the traditional sense) then you have a much higher chance of being satisfied. The stronger your preferences, the more likely you're going to be unhappy. Unless you've got a good plan B that you're happy with - it really does help one sleep at night!

just to play devils advocate (or super debbie downer...) Folks who struck out on the job market this year arent going away. Many will be spending the next years teaching, writing and publishing - and aggressively pursuing the jobs that previously would have gone to those freshly minted Phds. its unfortunately not quite as simple as saying this years grads got screwed but we'll be ok if the economy rebounds. And we've been hearing the retirement promise for years. The recession has understandably led many tenured folks to reconsider their plans and most are extending the time they'll be spending in their cushy spots. And again, dont count on uni's replacing retiring profs 1:1 with TT slots.....

i definitely wouldnt feel optimisitc at all about the job market. It wasnt great before the recession. now its horrible. and dont expect schools to restore tenure track gigs they've currently be filling with adjuncts once the economy is on the up. for a realistic sense, check out http://socrumormill2008.blogspot.com/ folks at top 5 departments with pubs in ASR/AJS didnt even get interviews at R1 schools... everyones case is different to be sure...

Id say networks is quickly becoming one of princetons strengths (in addition to dimaggio and zelizer, check out salganik, beldassari, ruef and lynch...)

Princeton Sociology, for one, does not have grades. I think thats the way it should be!

you should expect more like 24-26+ for some of the top privates..

Yes absolutely. Id even say the majority of folks in my program do their dissertation offsite (usually in one of the cities within 3hrs drive...sometimes around the world). Once you are ABD, nothing is technically keeping you there (unless your school requires TAship to keep funding at that point in your studies, i suppose)

FYI, I believe pton is 26k for next year

with salganik and baldassari, id actually say princeton is one of the stronger networks programs.

If you are really interested in immigration I would hold off and wait for pton. if you get in i would go there, no question.

Still trying to make a choice? Im technically deciding between chicago mich and pton, but i think i know where im leaning...how about you?

sure we do. Check out All Programs, go to S and look at the Soc dates Stanford first week of Feb, harvard tends to be late second to third week. good luck, im applying to both as well

I'm applying....should have one in by tomorrow and the rest shortly thereafter. This is my second go 'round and I know the rest come much easier than the first (depending on how much SOP tweaking needs to be done). Where you applying/what are your interests? Good luck!