boneh3ad Posted April 16, 2011 Posted April 16, 2011 It doesn't necessarily mean you didn't get it at this point. It means that if you did get it, your name hasn't gone into the system yet, which would explain the lack of email as well. It seems like they are likely not just dumping all the acceptances/rejections at the same time, so who knows exactly what their system is. jendoly 1
jendoly Posted April 16, 2011 Posted April 16, 2011 True - they could have sent out some "test cases" to ensure that it was all being handled correctly.
boneh3ad Posted April 16, 2011 Posted April 16, 2011 True - they could have sent out some "test cases" to ensure that it was all being handled correctly. I highly doubt that, but if one discipline or sponsoring body turned their selections in first, they may have sent them out immediately. For example, maybe ARO sent in their picks and those were sent out, but AFOSR hasn't notified ASEE of their picks yet. Similarly, maybe they divide into 3 groups: offers, deferrals and rejections and they have sent out offers and rejections but people who were in effect deferred have to wait to see who accepts their offers before they get closure. At the very least that means that if you haven't gotten an email yet, you aren't out of the running. In other words, I still have hope and my stomach is still in knots.
Ed_UCR Posted April 16, 2011 Posted April 16, 2011 It doesn't necessarily mean you didn't get it at this point. It means that if you did get it, your name hasn't gone into the system yet, which would explain the lack of email as well. It seems like they are likely not just dumping all the acceptances/rejections at the same time, so who knows exactly what their system is. I think we have to be careful here. Just because some people claimed to have received an email and/or are able to log in to https://ndseg.asee.org/award I still doubt they will do this on weekends. By they way since I am "SMART" awardee, and smart has a similar page https://smart.asee.org/award I already tried logging into this page yesterday........ so just be careful of what is posted here. kkompiles and fluffy 1 1
boneh3ad Posted April 16, 2011 Posted April 16, 2011 I think we have to be careful here. Just because some people claimed to have received an email and/or are able to log in to https://ndseg.asee.org/award I still doubt they will do this on weekends. By they way since I am "SMART" awardee, and smart has a similar page https://smart.asee.org/award I already tried logging into this page yesterday........ so just be careful of what is posted here. Agreed. I am not ruling out the possibility that the people who claim to have gotten an email might just be talking out their butts to get a rise out of the rest of us. However, if they are telling the truth my post still rings true. If they aren't telling the truth then we are all worrying about nothing (so far). kkompiles and fluffy 1 1
jendoly Posted April 16, 2011 Posted April 16, 2011 (edited) I highly doubt that, but if one discipline or sponsoring body turned their selections in first, they may have sent them out immediately. For example, maybe ARO sent in their picks and those were sent out, but AFOSR hasn't notified ASEE of their picks yet. Similarly, maybe they divide into 3 groups: offers, deferrals and rejections and they have sent out offers and rejections but people who were in effect deferred have to wait to see who accepts their offers before they get closure. At the very least that means that if you haven't gotten an email yet, you aren't out of the running. In other words, I still have hope and my stomach is still in knots. We had at least 180 people in here at one point (~6.2% of candidates), and as of now, we've heard of only 4 emails being sent out (kala tim, fluffy, and joe and his friend, 3 acceptances, one rejection). Assuming a fairly equal distribution between the offices of acceptances (7%/4 = 1.75% of applicants), that's 1.6% of the people who come to this forum that have been accepted, which would be on par with a single office having sent out decisions, but nowhere near the number of rejections we would expect to see, knowing that at least one has been sent out. I don't think we're ALL deferred, either. I wanted to go with the discipline theory, but we have some people in the cognitive field who don't know yet either (though of course that could be deferrals also, but they have a history of releasing deferrals at the same time as other notifications). Agreed. I am not ruling out the possibility that the people who claim to have gotten an email might just be talking out their butts to get a rise out of the rest of us. However, if they are telling the truth my post still rings true. If they aren't telling the truth then we are all worrying about nothing (so far). I am also holding wide open the possibility that we're being trolled (; Edited April 17, 2011 by jendoly
mmk Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 I am also holding wide open the possibility that we're being trolled (; The same thought has occurred to me... kkompiles 1
Ouroboros313 Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Sigh. Now my peaceful Saturday has been thrown into turmoil.
fortytwo Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Just FYI, you're not being trolled. I got an acceptance email around 3:30 as well (for aerospace).
kkompiles Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Sigh. Now my peaceful Saturday has been thrown into turmoil. Haha never invite trolls to a party.... Bruin123 and kkompiles 2
boneh3ad Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Just FYI, you're not being trolled. I got an acceptance email around 3:30 as well (for aerospace). Says the person with his first post and who only joined the party AFTER his/her alleged acceptance. Something doesn't add up...
jendoly Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 ...A screenshot of one of these letters (with the necessary info blurred) might help convince us... though anything can be Photoshopped. topcat84 1
Ed_UCR Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Says the person with his first post and who only joined the party AFTER his/her alleged acceptance. Something doesn't add up... Agree with u ......
mmk Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Says the person with his first post and who only joined the party AFTER his/her alleged acceptance. Something doesn't add up... Many people just keep tabs on the forum and are not active. Doesn't necessarily mean he's lying...
hello! :) Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Haha never invite trolls to a party.... haha, I agree. I'd really like to see someone who has actually been around gradcafe for awhile confirm that they've received notification from NDSEG. Until then, I'm skeptical.
boneh3ad Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 (edited) Many people just keep tabs on the forum and are not active. Doesn't necessarily mean he's lying... If it looks like a fish, smells like a fish and tastes like a fish... Be that as it may, he showed up after he would theoretically even be looking for this type of thread, registered here and posted for the first time and listed his major as the same major as the two people who were talking about not hearing back yet. Those are three things that would seem awfully coincidental to most. Occam's razor. The more likely answer is that he was a troll that already posted here and came back to check up on his handiwork and then registered a new account to continue his work. At this point, pics (or reputation) or it didn't happen. This topic is way too "trollable". Edited April 17, 2011 by boneh3ad
fortytwo Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 NeuroJoe already posted the text of the email. Not sure what else I can do besides that.
jendoly Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 (edited) "Print Screen | SysRq" key on your keyboard. Ctrl-V into Paint. Save. Imageshack.com. Post link. Done. EDIT: If you're on a Mac, it's even easier. I forget the key shortcut though. Saves a screencap to your desktop. Edited April 17, 2011 by jendoly
boneh3ad Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 NeuroJoe already posted the text of the email. Not sure what else I can do besides that. He may not necessarily be a troll. He also may have just typed that up himself. It wouldn't be that difficult to come up with that. The important thing is there hasn't be any conclusive evidence. Maybe all the acceptances have gone out, maybe not, but just randomly claiming you got one proves nothing. An image of the message in your email client would be more convincing. Of course I suppose that could be forged or photoshopped. At this point, I will just believe it when I see my own acceptance/rejection.
Ed_UCR Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 "Print Screen | SysRq" key on your keyboard. Ctrl-V into Paint. Save. Imageshack.com. Post link. Done. EDIT: If you're on a Mac, it's even easier. I forget the key shortcut though. Saves a screencap to your desktop. It is clear that this was a fish. I hope we will hear something Monday.
boneh3ad Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 It is clear that this was a fish. I hope we will hear something Monday. At this point I hope we hear something by August when we are all on the hook for tuition, haha!
jendoly Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 It is clear that this was a fish. I hope we will hear something Monday. Well, the information should prove useful to anyone else who might actually get one and doesn't want to fulfill the end of the Boy Who Cried Wolf parable (; I was afraid that Monday was a federal holiday (Patriot's Day), but I guess it's only a holiday for us. Phew.
mmk Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 (edited) Even better than a pic of the email might be the header of said email from more than one supposed awardee... Edited April 17, 2011 by mmk
jendoly Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 Even better than a pic of the email would be the header of the acceptance email from more than one supposed awardee... Haha, independently, right? We set up a board to examine and compare private submissions of supposed headers?
green31OSU Posted April 17, 2011 Posted April 17, 2011 At this point I hope we hear something by August when we are all on the hook for tuition, haha! Leave it to the U.S. government to set a generic deadline ("around the second week of April"), then change it to a specific day and tell people about it the day before, then completely miss that deadline. topcat84 1
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