"learn from each other" - prof naive about competition

[Dal PhDer]

ktel, I think you've dug yourself into a hole here. In your first response, you tried to redefine the issue so that you could congratulate yourself for your past actions, but you inadvertently revealed your unattractive ethical flexibility.

I think it's fair to assume that since you advocate lying to professors, and lying about your classmates, you are also OK with lying to your classmates (and, no doubt, lying on internet forums, which calls into question everything you've posted here). I'll bet you don't like it when it happens to you though.

And I doubt you would want your current classmates knowing about what you've posted here. That would put an end to your relying on them right quick.

Margarets,

You came on here asking for advice and have gotten a wide range of useful tips and opinions. Rather than focusing on one person who you just disagree with, perhaps be more gracious and thankful to everyone (even those you don't see eye to eye with) for taking time to offer advice and suggestions. We are helping you out by taking the time to answer your question- we don't ask for thanks or cheers, but we do deserve respect and consideration.

Your topic is not a cut and dry question- it is layered in interpersonal relationships and social dynamics- which will vary between individuals. In reading ktels post, there is useful advice. I don't believe they are advocating lying at all...in the real world in order to maintain working relationships with peers that you might not see eye to eye with, you will have to maintain 'working' relationships with them- relationships purely based on the reciprocity of work advantages rather than friendship. There is nothing wrong with that.

Tbh, your behaviour and attitude to your peers on here is telling as to why you might have issues in your class. Try and be less abrasive and accusing, and more open and gracious.

[jeffster]

ktel, I think you've dug yourself into a hole here. In your first response, you tried to redefine the issue so that you could congratulate yourself for your past actions, but you inadvertently revealed your unattractive ethical flexibility.

I think it's fair to assume that since you advocate lying to professors, and lying about your classmates, you are also OK with lying to your classmates (and, no doubt, lying on internet forums, which calls into question everything you've posted here). I'll bet you don't like it when it happens to you though.

And I doubt you would want your current classmates knowing about what you've posted here. That would put an end to your relying on them right quick.

Ouch. You should reconsider your career in environmental studies and go for political punditry. With an attitude like that, you could be on Fox!

[Dal PhDer]

I am thinking this is the cause of the ktel attacks! ...but it's so cute!!!

[ktel]

^ Haha. I have reached my quota of positive upvotes for the day apparently...that post warrants one.

[Two Espressos]

ktel, I think you've dug yourself into a hole here. In your first response, you tried to redefine the issue so that you could congratulate yourself for your past actions, but you inadvertently revealed your unattractive ethical flexibility.

I think it's fair to assume that since you advocate lying to professors, and lying about your classmates, you are also OK with lying to your classmates (and, no doubt, lying on internet forums, which calls into question everything you've posted here). I'll bet you don't like it when it happens to you though.

And I doubt you would want your current classmates knowing about what you've posted here. That would put an end to your relying on them right quick.

Jesus christ, just stop.

[CageFree]

ktel, I think you've dug yourself into a hole here. In your first response, you tried to redefine the issue so that you could congratulate yourself for your past actions, but you inadvertently revealed your unattractive ethical flexibility.

I think it's fair to assume that since you advocate lying to professors, and lying about your classmates, you are also OK with lying to your classmates (and, no doubt, lying on internet forums, which calls into question everything you've posted here). I'll bet you don't like it when it happens to you though.

And I doubt you would want your current classmates knowing about what you've posted here. That would put an end to your relying on them right quick.

Both academia and the corporate world have moved toward collaborative environments. Some universities offer the same level of funding to everyone in the department to deter that "I must beat everyone" mentality and create a more congenial, positive program.

Good luck in grad school (and work). You're gonna need it.