ohgoodness Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I love cheesy American poetry. Billy Collins, ee cummings, Elizabeth Bishop, Wallace Stevens, even Emily Dickinson. Even Robert Frost! I seriously love that stuff. But I don't study it, I just read it for pleasure. Such pleasure. You must hang in some really really hip circles for this to be cheesy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowMoreSerious Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I love cheesy American poetry. Billy Collins, ee cummings, Elizabeth Bishop, Wallace Stevens, even Emily Dickinson. Even Robert Frost! I seriously love that stuff. But I don't study it, I just read it for pleasure. Such pleasure. Mayyybe I can see your point with Billy Collins, but the rest are nothing to be embarrassed about. Standard excellent stuff. I heard Billy Collins read "The Lanyard" at the Dodge Poetry Festival some years ago and it was hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rems Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Does anyone else have commonly studied writers/thinkers that they're kind of embarrassed to like? Joyce, for me. The criticisms are valid. Sylvia Plath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecheese Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 There is NOTHING embarrassing about liking Sylvia Plath. She is amazing. bluecheese and damequixote 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rems Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I find it very interesting how much we all differ on what is "embarrassing" and what is not. Says a lot about us, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontHate Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 I'm just generally embarrassed to be who I am. So everything I do/think/say/feel is embarrassing. Sigh. It's so hard being an emo teen dazedandbemused, DontHate, asleepawake and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecheese Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) it's too hard http://www.youtube.com/embed/hNXL0SYJ2eU Edited January 17, 2013 by bluecheese discoheat and bluecheese 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beet-nik Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Sylvia Plath. Though this seems to have turned into the "Which writers are you embarrassed to admit you like?" thread, I definitely have to agree with this. I love her work, but I could never write a lengthy work on it for fear of drowning in my own sorrows and wanting to stick my head in an oven (seriously kidding about the second part!). As for which commonly studied writer I can't stand, it has to be Emily Brontë. Her sentence structure and use of language is stunning -- I just can't handle the simplicity of her characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beet-nik Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 or maybe, "What Happens When White People Go To Africa." If I could upvote this, I would. Made my day (and I'm pretty sure plenty of people in the library now think I'm a little bit odd for laughing out loud at my computer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datatape Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Though this seems to have turned into the "Which writers are you embarrassed to admit you like?" thread, I definitely have to agree with this. I love her work, but I could never write a lengthy work on it for fear of drowning in my own sorrows and wanting to stick my head in an oven (seriously kidding about the second part!). I actually did a major seminar paper on Plath for a poetics class. Because I am a dork, I cooked food every time I had to lead class in my Master's program and I made a ton of food based on the three poems I concentrated on: mushroom flatbread for "Mushrooms," sacrilicious (cheese and sausage on challah bread) pressed sandwiches for "Daddy" and worms in dirt for "Lady Lazarus." bluecheese 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecheese Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I actually did a major seminar paper on Plath for a poetics class. Because I am a dork, I cooked food every time I had to lead class in my Master's program and I made a ton of food based on the three poems I concentrated on: mushroom flatbread for "Mushrooms," sacrilicious (cheese and sausage on challah bread) pressed sandwiches for "Daddy" and worms in dirt for "Lady Lazarus." awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontHate Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 Sounds like a fun and fattening class DontHate and lisajay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisajay Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I actually did a major seminar paper on Plath for a poetics class. Because I am a dork, I cooked food every time I had to lead class in my Master's program and I made a ton of food based on the three poems I concentrated on: mushroom flatbread for "Mushrooms," sacrilicious (cheese and sausage on challah bread) pressed sandwiches for "Daddy" and worms in dirt for "Lady Lazarus." severed lady fingers for "cut"? perhaps with ketchup? Datatape 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datatape Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 severed lady fingers for "cut"? perhaps with ketchup? Ooh! No, raspberry coulis. YES. Now I know what to do if they ever have me teach an intro to American poetry class. lisajay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beet-nik Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I actually did a major seminar paper on Plath for a poetics class. Because I am a dork, I cooked food every time I had to lead class in my Master's program and I made a ton of food based on the three poems I concentrated on: mushroom flatbread for "Mushrooms," sacrilicious (cheese and sausage on challah bread) pressed sandwiches for "Daddy" and worms in dirt for "Lady Lazarus." Love the "sacrilicious" sandwiches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadiespaw Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) And Pynchon may suck - gravity's rainbow was soo booring - but the crying of lot 49 is still a great book. Edited January 18, 2013 by Sadiespaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troppman Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) Someone please explain the resistance/opposition to Freud/Psychoanalysis Edited January 18, 2013 by StephanieDelacour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripWillis Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I can only speak for myself, but as a scholar, I've learned to question the rigor and review of Freud's research; as someone invested in gender studies, I've learned to question the simplistic nature of his theoretical metaphors; and as someone who cares about the sociology of culture, studies in interiority seem like an outdated, bourgeois fetish when it comes to the exigency of literary scholarship. I mean, we don't study phrenology anymore either, do we (ouch)? Pathology has often been used to explain socially deviant behavior that we find undesirable, but has incurred a considerable amount of violence to discourse in the process. I realize those last points are a very harsh critique, but it's just where I'm coming from in terms of my own interests; it is my own aversion -- psychoanalyze me and figure out why . It is fairly common for people to primarily read Freud through Lacan now, and Judith Butler and Deleuze and Guattari have only furthered a radical revamp of Freudianism. I'm sure there are other people out there salvaging Freud and psychoanalysis in the humanities, but since I am not a psychoanalytic scholar, I wouldn't be able to tell you who they are. Really, psychoanalysis is just not my bag, baby. Anti-Oedipus for the win*. *to be fair, Anti-Oedipus has its own problems with overwrought metaphorical narrative drives, but I would venture that it's at least more rich and thoughtful than what Freud posed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripWillis Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Oh, pffft, I forgot: Malcolm Gladwell, Chuck Klosterman, et. al. -- basically anyone in armchair philosophy or pop philosophy or anyone who writes for Grantland. I once had to listen to two breeders on a Bolt Bus yammer on for hours about Blink as part of their mating ritual. Blech. kairos and TripWillis 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontHate Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 I once had to listen to two breeders on a Bolt Bus yammer on for hours about Blink as part of their mating ritual. Blech. I'm offended by your homo-normativity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asleepawake Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) breeders on a Bolt Bus You are a poet Edited January 18, 2013 by asleepawake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontHate Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 You are a poet Cuz poetry is just another word for alliteration? asleepawake, 1Q84 and DontHate 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
practical cat Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Oh, pffft, I forgot: Malcolm Gladwell, Chuck Klosterman, et. al. -- basically anyone in armchair philosophy or pop philosophy or anyone who writes for Grantland. I once had to listen to two breeders on a Bolt Bus yammer on for hours about Blink as part of their mating ritual. Blech.brb coming back tomorrow when I can up vote this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripWillis Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) I'm offended by your homo-normativity I would be able to stomach this, except you are using that term incorrectly. Edit: I think the term you're looking for is reverse-orientation discrimination. Edited January 18, 2013 by TripWillis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asleepawake Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) Cuz poetry is just another word for alliteration? + the perfect cadence in my head. Allow me to adjust: I once had to listen to two breeders on a Bolt Bus yammer on for hours about Blink as part of their mating ritual. Blech. I'm okay with Gladwell, though. To me the sentiment of hating "anyone in armchair philosophy or pop philosophy" is basically hate for anyone who engages in philosophical pursuits in an accessible way, or outside of the confines of academic structure. Sure, I see why you might not like some of these folks, but hating all of them is your loss. Edited January 18, 2013 by asleepawake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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