bentharbour Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Take a look at the link provided by wtncffts, it provides a bunch of information on successful SSHRC applications in years past. You can look at total applications vs successful, A-list vs B-list, and university specific information like total applications vs successful applications. In years past, the general success rate has been between 40-50%.
Numbered Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 *CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS* A Student Guide to Writing SSHRC Proposals Editor: Caitlin Forsey, Sociology, University of British Columbia Editorial Assistant: Lauren Menzie The purpose of this project is to produce a guide that offers advice on how to write a successful SSHRC proposal. The content will include: 1) a review of the literature on successful grant writing techniques 2) a description of “best practices” used by prior applicants; 3) a wide selection of unedited proposals to be used as templates for future applicants; and 4) a list of common issues and mistakes from the perspective of those who evaluate SSHRC proposals. The project aims to support students in applying for graduate funding and to offer SSHRC award holders with an opportunity to publish their proposal at an important time in their career. Submission Themes The book will be used as a resource guide for students who are applying for SSHRC funding. The goal is to include a wide variety of proposals that reflect each discipline currently funded by SSHRC: Anthropology Interdisciplinary Studies/Women’s Studies Archaeology Law Archival Science Library and Information Science Classics Linguistics Communication and Media Studies Literature and Modern Language Criminology Philosophy Demography Management/Business/Admin Economics Medieval Studies Education Political Science Fine Arts Psychology Folklore Religious Studies Geography Social Work History Sociology Industrial Relations Urban and Regional Studies Submission Guidelines We are inviting voluntary submissions of unedited SSHRC proposals that were successful at the MA and PhD-level competitions. The deadline for submission is Friday January 24th, 2014. Submissions and questions regarding the book can be directed to Caitlin Forsey at c.forsey@alumni.ubc.ca
Konstantin Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 This morning I received an email from SSHRC acknowledging receipt of my application. Has anyone else received the email?
bentharbour Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) I also received this email. Extremely generic with little to no information...not even an estimated notification date. Edited January 14, 2014 by bentharbour
Konstantin Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 I also received this email. Extremely generic with little to no information...not even an estimated notification date. I recall that last year's competition results were released at the end of April (I checked SSHRC's twitter feed). I wouldn't be surprised if this will also be the case this time around.
Diakonos Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Take a look at the link provided by wtncffts, it provides a bunch of information on successful SSHRC applications in years past. You can look at total applications vs successful, A-list vs B-list, and university specific information like total applications vs successful applications. In years past, the general success rate has been between 40-50%. Ah, I see. I was looking at the CGS statistics, which doesn't include those. Unless I'm understanding it wrong, some of these statistics look pretty dismal. In the 2013-2014 competition, for example, McGill sent 111 A-list applications and only 23.4% of those were successful (26 candidates). And the overall success rate of Canadian A-list applications was 27.9%. That's a fair deal lower than 40-50%. This morning I too received notification that SSHRC had received my application. Now the fun begins.
bentharbour Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Not sure where you are looking, but I see that McGill sent 96 A-List Applicants. 22 Received Fellowships and 28 received a CGS. That is 50/96, so 52%. The CGS is super-SSHRC (35x3), if you look at the fellowships you will see how many A-list were sent and how many fellowships were received (in addition to the super-SSHRC). Edited January 14, 2014 by bentharbour
Konstantin Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 Not sure where you are looking, but I see that McGill sent 96 A-List Applicants. 22 Received Fellowships and 28 received a CGS. That is 50/96, so 52%. The CGS is super-SSHRC (35x3), if you look at the fellowships you will see how many A-list were sent and how many fellowships were received (in addition to the super-SSHRC). Ah, I see. I was looking at the CGS statistics, which doesn't include those. Unless I'm understanding it wrong, some of these statistics look pretty dismal. In the 2013-2014 competition, for example, McGill sent 111 A-list applications and only 23.4% of those were successful (26 candidates). And the overall success rate of Canadian A-list applications was 27.9%. That's a fair deal lower than 40-50%. This morning I too received notification that SSHRC had received my application. Now the fun begins. bentharbour's calculation is for the success rate by institution at the time of application, and a similar calculation can be done for institutions to award the doctorate: (number of successful CGS award + number of successful fellowships) divided by (A-list applicants forwarded by the university). One thing though: I am not entirely certain that CGSs and Fellowships can simply be added together and then divided over the total number of A-list applications to determine the success rate. Could it be that the CGS category is completely separate from Fellowships? The Doctoral Fellowship Excel sheet does say that the national average is 28.2%, which makes me wonder why CGS numbers aren't included in the calculation.
bentharbour Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) You could be entirely correct, but the two are separate awards from the same pool. For example, school sends 60 a-list applications and all 60 are considered for both...however you cannot receive both so I am indeed assuming that the CGS and Fellowships can be added together to find a total number of SSHRC awards given per institution. That being said, I have no way to verify this claim. Edit: the total number of awards to applicants was something around 950:1900. I do not have the info in front of me right now so those numbers are not correct. Edited January 14, 2014 by bentharbour
Konstantin Posted January 14, 2014 Author Posted January 14, 2014 I think you're right, and that probably is the most logical explanation. Adding Fellowships and CGSs together will yield the total number of scholarships that are awarded from the pool of A-list applicants. I guess what put me off was that the CGS Excel sheet really doesn't give us any information on the success rate other than indicating the total number of CGSs that are issued, therefore leading us to infer that CGSs are "extra" to the Fellowships.
Luna1 Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 This morning I received an email from SSHRC acknowledging receipt of my application. Has anyone else received the email? My school has informed us that they will only let us know if we have been forwarded in FEBRUARY! Those of you who got email confirmation from SSHRC, are you direct applicants or being sent through your school?
Konstantin Posted January 20, 2014 Author Posted January 20, 2014 My school has informed us that they will only let us know if we have been forwarded in FEBRUARY! Those of you who got email confirmation from SSHRC, are you direct applicants or being sent through your school? That is quite late! My school notified me in late December. Usually February notifications are for direct applicants and universities without a quota, according to SSHRC.
Nerd_For_Life Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 My school has informed us that they will only let us know if we have been forwarded in FEBRUARY! Those of you who got email confirmation from SSHRC, are you direct applicants or being sent through your school? I have also applied through my University this year and I will also not hear until February (sad face!) if I have been forwarded (though I have already unofficially been told that my application has be A-listed). Last year I was at a different university and I found out in December, but I guess there are different timelines and a pretty big window for Universities to forward the applications to SSHRC
Konstantin Posted January 20, 2014 Author Posted January 20, 2014 I have also applied through my University this year and I will also not hear until February (sad face!) if I have been forwarded (though I have already unofficially been told that my application has be A-listed). Last year I was at a different university and I found out in December, but I guess there are different timelines and a pretty big window for Universities to forward the applications to SSHRC What I find interesting is that according to SSHRC, the deadline for university applications (applicants who apply via universities) is January 9, 2014, meaning that all the universities with a quota must have submitted their nominees to SSHRC by this time. This still doesn't explain why some universities don't inform their applicants until as late as February.
ImmCrit Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 My school informed me that I was forwarded (before Christmas), but I have yet to receive the confirmation email from SSHRC. Is anyone else in the same situation?
pbaid Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 Hi Zz7, I also heard from my school before Christmas but yet to receive a confirmation email from SSHRC.
Nerd_For_Life Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) What I find interesting is that according to SSHRC, the deadline for university applications (applicants who apply via universities) is January 9, 2014, meaning that all the universities with a quota must have submitted their nominees to SSHRC by this time. This still doesn't explain why some universities don't inform their applicants until as late as February. One of life's great mysteries? The GDP of my program is looking into getting a timeline since myself and the other students keep bugging her about out applications and she also wants to make sure they are forwarded Edit: I'll post an update when I know more! Edited January 21, 2014 by Nerd_For_Life
Konstantin Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 One of life's great mysteries? The GDP of my program is looking into getting a timeline since myself and the other students keep bugging her about out applications and she also wants to make sure they are forwarded Edit: I'll post an update when I know more! Good luck! It might also be a good idea to contact someone in grad studies at your university, since usually they are the ones who determine the rankings and forward the applications to SSHRC.
wtncffts Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 This may or may not be helpful, but the status of my SSHRC was updated in the 'student centre' well before graduate studies actually notified me. Might want to check if there's some sort of information on whatever your online student portal is.
Nerd_For_Life Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 I received notification from SSHRC today that they had received my application - never did receive notification from the graduate department at my University. But yey! Good to have the formal acknowledgement
surefire Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 I received notification from SSHRC today that they had received my application - never did receive notification from the graduate department at my University. But yey! Good to have the formal acknowledgement Yah! I got my notification from SSHRC today that they have received my application! I got official word from my SGS in mid-December. It's definitely good to have the formal word and reference number. I'm working on a brutal presentation for tomorrow, so it was kind of nice to have the brief moment of: "Oh that's right, I have successfully shanghaiied some SSHRC-minded people into thinking this is interesting and do-able, I can totes convince a random room full of friendlies tomorrow". Now to do the only sanity-preserving thing and try to FORGET ABOUT SSHRC for a few months. Good luck all!
Konstantin Posted January 28, 2014 Author Posted January 28, 2014 Yah! I got my notification from SSHRC today that they have received my application! I got official word from my SGS in mid-December. It's definitely good to have the formal word and reference number. I'm working on a brutal presentation for tomorrow, so it was kind of nice to have the brief moment of: "Oh that's right, I have successfully shanghaiied some SSHRC-minded people into thinking this is interesting and do-able, I can totes convince a random room full of friendlies tomorrow". Now to do the only sanity-preserving thing and try to FORGET ABOUT SSHRC for a few months. Good luck all! Congrats surefire! Keeping my finders crossed for all the applicants until the results are released.
MakeYourself Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Well, since we're in for a long wait, I might as well ask a question Does anyone know what the rules are if you end up doing a different research project than what you proposed? Say, for example, it's a project in the same discipline, but in a different area (but still clearly not health-related and in SSHRC's mandate)? Would you have to fill out that request to change research study form? I ask because I've known people who have done different projects and not notified SSHRC because they say that SSHRC funds the person, not the project. But others say that you have to notify if you change anything. Anyone know? On the SSHRC website it says you have to fill it out if there is 'substantial' change, but what constitutes substantial? Edited January 29, 2014 by randomness
Konstantin Posted January 29, 2014 Author Posted January 29, 2014 Well, since we're in for a long wait, I might as well ask a question Does anyone know what the rules are if you end up doing a different research project than what you proposed? Say, for example, it's a project in the same discipline, but in a different area (but still clearly not health-related and in SSHRC's mandate)? Would you have to fill out that request to change research study form? I ask because I've known people who have done different projects and not notified SSHRC because they say that SSHRC funds the person, not the project. But others say that you have to notify if you change anything. Anyone know? On the SSHRC website it says you have to fill it out if there is 'substantial' change, but what constitutes substantial? I would speculate that substantial changes include those that would render your proposed project at the time of application almost unrecognizable vis-a-vis your "new" project. I think that changes to methodology, theory, etc. don't count as substantial. If your topic changes completely, then so does your proposal, so that's pretty substantial in my view. Of course, I'd say that it is better first to consult with your supervisor and grad chair before filling out the form and sending it to SSHRC. But I also think that if the subject matter of your "new" research project is still eligible for funding under SSHRC's mandate, there's no reason for concern even if it has been substantially revised. I guess SSHRC doesn't want any surprises when your final product is completely different from your proposed research. They just want to be notified of changes is all. Having said that, I don't really know about the consequences of not reporting substantial changes, but I'm positive that everyone who wants to keep their SSHRC funding would not want to find out the hard way
Kirialax Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 My school has informed us that they will only let us know if we have been forwarded in FEBRUARY! Those of you who got email confirmation from SSHRC, are you direct applicants or being sent through your school? I was notified by my university by email, perhaps a week ago.
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