Ghogalish Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 Checking the gradcafe made me feel I will be rejected by every school I've applied due to my low verbal in GRE. Hope the admission committee will not toss my apps according to GRE without looking the rest of them. Hope my other parts could compensate my low verbal. I should have applied some less competitive programs. BTW, will submit apps right on due date have effects?
DropTheBase Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 Checking the gradcafe made me feel I will be rejected by every school I've applied due to my low verbal in GRE. Hope the admission committee will not toss my apps according to GRE without looking the rest of them. Hope my other parts could compensate my low verbal. I should have applied some less competitive programs. If the adcom stops reading your app because of a low GRE score, then that's a school you shouldn't go to anyway. Don't worry so much. BTW, will submit apps right on due date have effects? As long as they were submitted on time, it shouldn't matter. DTB
Loric Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 I think they sort of make heaps.. Basic score, gpa's, etc.. are the easiest to process and so they probably have a "bad" "good" and "great" heap. Then they look at the SOP/PS or other writing sample. I recall one program saying they'd at least be "skimmed" before an applicant is cut. This where i suspect the first "discard" heap is made and then just yank the bad SOP's with bad grades and bad scores clean out of the grouping and there's no debate amoung the group that they're no goes. Then a few with really good SOPs from the "bad" pile get upgraded to the middle "good" pile. The good group gets a more overall look, delving deeper in the grades and also the reccomendations. Several "good" grade people will get dropped for having SOP's that dont fit the program at all, maybe even for the cardinal sin of writing to another prorgram in the SOP. Those go on the discard pile and there's still some "bad grade" people left, some "good grade, poor SOP" people, and a few "good grade, good SOP" candidates. Then they delve into the "great" heap and have no qualms about removing the people with bad SOP's, as "they should know better." All three groups are chopped down a bit. Resumes get picked up and the LOR's get read from the smaller pool. Different people on the adcomm being making their "deck" of applicants they want to convince the rest of the group to sign off on. Applicants who a majority want to be in right away, they're in - they're sent off to be processed for funding, placement, etc... The middle heap remains. The group debates, cites this work experience, this great statement and ideals.. another counters that their research is nonexistant and the letter of rec was practically a form letter. For another, the LOR is really saving what is a mediocre SOP (but on point with what the school wants, just written poorly in general.) The groups debates, quarrels, plays their cards and see's which slots they fill and can agree upon. Finally, the last of the yes and no's are doled out and people hear back. In that, the GRE didn't serve as much more than a starting point to establish the basic ranking. They will "cull" more agressively from that group, but if you given them reason to believe you fon't actually belong in the bottom group they'll bump you up. quicksilver, o.j., doobiebrothers and 1 other 4
Loric Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 And i say all this knowing very much that at many places it's all about Rubrics. Every piece gets a "grade" and has it's unique value in their overal equation. There's enough variables that any single poor one can be overcome by the others. Also, even in-fighting, whjere one admin on the com votes the opposite of another because they want you pushed though. It happens.
biotechie Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 Checking the gradcafe made me feel I will be rejected by every school I've applied due to my low verbal in GRE. Hope the admission committee will not toss my apps according to GRE without looking the rest of them. Hope my other parts could compensate my low verbal. I should have applied some less competitive programs. BTW, will submit apps right on due date have effects? For your field, the most important things are going to be your research, research interests, SOP and letters of rec. If your GPA is decent and your verbal is low, you might still have a chance. Dropthebase said how I also feel: If they're going to boot you simply because of your GRE when the rest of your application might be stellar, then you don't want to attend there, anyway.
Solnce Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 In my application files, the way the committee sees it too, I can see what is the most important for each school I apply. For example, 1. International/domestic. (Supposedly, they go to different folders and then go through the following process separately). 2. Female/male (I suppose also get separated to keep the balance). 3. GPA. 4. GRE scores. 5. Recommendations. 6. Awards, publications, work experience. and at the very end - SOP, CV and other stuff. And it's like that for almost for all of them. Well, it makes sense to me. So it seems that the most important factor is GPA. Also I really hope that they do it with the grading system, which Loric mentioned. It seems fair then. o.j. 1
Socrates1 Posted December 14, 2013 Posted December 14, 2013 Checking the gradcafe made me feel I will be rejected by every school I've applied due to my low verbal in GRE. Hope the admission committee will not toss my apps according to GRE without looking the rest of them. Hope my other parts could compensate my low verbal. I should have applied some less competitive programs. BTW, will submit apps right on due date have effects? It's okay, I'm at the point where I'll be pretty surprised if I get an interview. I don't see myself being admitted at all.
microarray Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Honestly, I felt the exact same way. I got extremely low scores on everything on GRE. I'm so embarrased that i refuse to post them - really does not reflect my ability to communicate or to do math. I have a very high GPA, 2 years of research experience, great LORs, scholarships/awards, first to go to college in my family, and I think - stellar SOP + PS. I was terrified that my GRE score may keep me from getting into grad school. Last week - I received a phone call from Michigan State University inviting me for an interview (less than 2 weeks after I applied). I was shocked, given their program boasts about the GRE average school is super high and yada yada yada. Now, I think that I have a good chance of getting interviews at most of the schools that I applied to. If your application is strong besides GRE, don't worry. Most schools look at you as a whole package. Hang in there. o.j. 1
TonyTong Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 It's okay, I'm at the point where I'll be pretty surprised if I get an interview. I don't see myself being admitted at all. I feel exactly the same at the moment. I'll also be pretty surprised if I get an interview....
Socrates1 Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Honestly, I felt the exact same way. I got extremely low scores on everything on GRE. I'm so embarrased that i refuse to post them - really does not reflect my ability to communicate or to do math. I have a very high GPA, 2 years of research experience, great LORs, scholarships/awards, first to go to college in my family, and I think - stellar SOP + PS. I was terrified that my GRE score may keep me from getting into grad school. Last week - I received a phone call from Michigan State University inviting me for an interview (less than 2 weeks after I applied). I was shocked, given their program boasts about the GRE average school is super high and yada yada yada. Now, I think that I have a good chance of getting interviews at most of the schools that I applied to. If your application is strong besides GRE, don't worry. Most schools look at you as a whole package. Hang in there. Thanks, I do hope so. Unfortunately my GPA isn't that hot either, but hopefully anyone who bothers glancing at my transcript will see that was just be being a stupid 18-year old my freshman year. Good that you heard back from one so far, sadly the only news I've gotten is a notification that I didn't make the interviews at OHSU.
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