MFA arts 2015: FUNDING AND DECISIONS

[kick87]

Thanks, I'm going to Yale because it fits me the best.

 

At UCSB is a fine art program, I'd have a lot of freedom to do whatever I want and I don't think I'll be as challenged.

Hey, Congrats,

Im going there too. But, !! how the hell did you get so much out of them? Did you make 0$ dollars last year and report 0$ anticipated income?

I earned like 4k last year and somehow am supposed to contribute 9$K, so got only 30K in scholarship.

Just curious u dont have to answer. My parental contribution is supposed to be $3K.

Thanks!

[Jaygray]

Hi Jaygray,

Got the same offer.

Visited Rutgers today (03/26) and loved what I saw. I also got accepted to Hunter and now, like you, trying to make a VERY difficult decision. At this point I'm 50/50. ugh...

 

Have you decided yet?

 

Hey! that's great!!! I accepted the spot into Rutgers, have you visited yet? Not super excited about the city but I am really excited about the program!

 

 

If having a successful art career in a big gallery is a main concern for you, and you can actually find the loans to pay that humongous tuition without getting a mortgage/selling your kidney, don't stop considering Yale just yet. It's the price to pay for a potential entry ticket to the elite of the world (in art and pretty much everything else). Your parents probably have some good money if they don't want to disclose their earnings and even if it isn't yours (yet), I imagine you can still be supported somehow by them. The worst case scenario is having to go back to your parents for a while. But when you're 80 and you say "I went to Yale", it will probably make you feel proud. Happy snob is still happy.

 

If your parents don't have as much as I think and/or you want to travel right after you graduate/ be free of commitments, or are less concerned by becoming a gallery best-seller, then choose peace of mind and go to Rutgers or whatever school offered the best funding. Also if you choose this path you'd better be 100% sure of your decision, or you might end up feeling frustrated and depressed later for not taking a risk that might have made you happier. 

 

 

But that's just my humble opinion from the outside B-)

My mother was refusing on the basis of paranoia and other personal issues that have resulted in her being somewhat unstable. Yale could not process anything without her information. I got the opinions of some established artists and other faculty at Tyler and they said to go where the money is - what matters most is the work and I know that I will work hard to make it worth it.

[carterjohnson]

Hey! that's great!!! I accepted the spot into Rutgers, have you visited yet? Not super excited about the city but I am really excited about the program!

 

 

My mother was refusing on the basis of paranoia and other personal issues that have resulted in her being somewhat unstable. Yale could not process anything without her information. I got the opinions of some established artists and other faculty at Tyler and they said to go where the money is - what matters most is the work and I know that I will work hard to make it worth it.

Hey, yeah, I visited on Thursday of last week. I didn't think the city so bad, to be honest... and yes, I liked the program and especially the rapport that the faculty have with the students. What did you like most about the program. I'd be intersted to know what made you excited (also, what's your media)?

[allybee]

After much internal struggling, I decided to pass on a full ride from UNC Chapel Hill and head to VCU (first in line for funding behind three others who all ended up committing there... which sucks for me). I’m wondering now where are the best places to look for funding? Current plan is to just take out loans (luckily VCU is a relatively inexpensive program for in-state students), but obviously I’d prefer to not have any debt after I graduate. Does anyone here know a good resource for finding grants/scholarships/anything?

[valoia]

After much internal struggling, I decided to pass on a full ride from UNC Chapel Hill and head to VCU (first in line for funding behind three others who all ended up committing there... which sucks for me). I’m wondering now where are the best places to look for funding? Current plan is to just take out loans (luckily VCU is a relatively inexpensive program for in-state students), but obviously I’d prefer to not have any debt after I graduate. Does anyone here know a good resource for finding grants/scholarships/anything?

 

Grats, allybee. It's refreshing to see others going with schools that feel right over bottom-line best funding.Good luck with your search  for supplemental funding- I'm in the same boat.

[bannedinbc]

I've been thinking about three offers, all with full tuition, but varying amounts of TA money (UC Irvine, UCSD, and Rutgers), and I think my decision is pretty much made.

 

Probably going to accept UCSD tomorrow. It has been hard to discount the absolutely stellar funding from Rutgers, but like others have been posting recently, its about a lot more than just the money.

 

Who knew that this part of the process would be just as stressful as the actual application part.

[Milkyways]

I've been thinking about three offers, all with full tuition, but varying amounts of TA money (UC Irvine, UCSD, and Rutgers), and I think my decision is pretty much made.

 

Probably going to accept UCSD tomorrow. It has been hard to discount the absolutely stellar funding from Rutgers, but like others have been posting recently, its about a lot more than just the money.

 

Who knew that this part of the process would be just as stressful as the actual application part.

The first stage of the application was not very stressful for me. I didn't feel I had much to lose. But having to decide has made me feel under so much stress it even modified my sleep patterns.

I guess picking out a school is a down to earth decision and you feel it carries the responsibility of determining the future of your whole life. Still you can always transfer if you're not satisfied (I would rather avoid this of course, but it does help to imagine options).

 

I think that in your case all three programs are fantastic. And fully funded! You just need to figure out which one is the best fit for you: faculty, facilities, program's philosophy, personal goals and location. I don't know your work but I'd definitely would be between Rutgers (proximity to NYC) and I believe generous  stipend , and UCSD (reputability and solid conceptual base). I myself have considered attending the phd there after the mfa. We'll see. Good luck with your decision, any option you pick will be fantastic, and UCSD is indeed an amazing program. 

[carterjohnson]

After much internal struggling, I decided to pass on a full ride from UNC Chapel Hill and head to VCU (first in line for funding behind three others who all ended up committing there... which sucks for me). I’m wondering now where are the best places to look for funding? Current plan is to just take out loans (luckily VCU is a relatively inexpensive program for in-state students), but obviously I’d prefer to not have any debt after I graduate. Does anyone here know a good resource for finding grants/scholarships/anything?

I second this question, allybee.

 

Does anybody know any good resources for funding?

[carterjohnson]

I've been thinking about three offers, all with full tuition, but varying amounts of TA money (UC Irvine, UCSD, and Rutgers), and I think my decision is pretty much made.

 

Probably going to accept UCSD tomorrow. It has been hard to discount the absolutely stellar funding from Rutgers, but like others have been posting recently, its about a lot more than just the money.

 

Who knew that this part of the process would be just as stressful as the actual application part.

I agree with you. I just made my decision yesterday and called immediately, because I knew that if I'd waited 5 more minutes, I'd have changed my mind again.

 

Ugh... so sad to turn down that money and the teaching opportunity at Rutgers. I would have happily gone there if it had been just Rutgers.

[carterjohnson]

The first stage of the application was not very stressful for me. I didn't feel I had much to lose. But having to decide has made me feel under so much stress it even modified my sleep patterns.

I guess picking out a school is a down to earth decision and you feel it carries the responsibility of determining the future of your whole life. Still you can always transfer if you're not satisfied (I would rather avoid this of course, but it does help to imagine options).

 

I think that in your case all three programs are fantastic. And fully funded! You just need to figure out which one is the best fit for you: faculty, facilities, program's philosophy, personal goals and location. I don't know your work but I'd definitely would be between Rutgers (proximity to NYC) and I believe generous  stipend , and UCSD (reputability and solid conceptual base). I myself have considered attending the phd there after the mfa. We'll see. Good luck with your decision, any option you pick will be fantastic, and UCSD is indeed an amazing program. 

I agree with Milkyways. UCSD is a great program with a great history in Art, at least since the 60s, so if that's your choice, you should be happy with it. Rutgers would be great too... I don't think you can go wrong.

[Coreythegiraffe]

I also will be accepting UCSD's offer. As with most of the MFA students, I received a great offer which covers tuition, plus TA position, plus research award.

For those who might be thinking about reapplying next year, take a look into UCSD. 

Edited April 1, 2015 by Coreythegiraffe

[Milkyways]

I also will be accepting UCSD's offer. As with most of the MFA students, I received a great offer which covers tuition, plus TA position, plus research award.

For those who might be thinking about reapplying next year, take a look into UCSD. 

Hello Corey. If you don't mind, could you give us more details about how funding is structured in UCSD? I would really appreciate it

[Coreythegiraffe]

Hello Corey. If you don't mind, could you give us more details about how funding is structured in UCSD? I would really appreciate it

Well as far as I understand, all admitted MFA students have their tuition covered (instate or out). And I believe most are offered a TA position for both years like I was. The TA position isn't a ton, but the typical $4000 a semester. I also received a $3000 Research award for my first semester, I don't know how common this award is or if it is renewable. 

I'm also not sure if it is possible to ask for more money, since they already seem to be quite generous. I am calling them this afternoon to clarify some things. 

But in any case, like with most of the UC MFA programs, the funding is plentiful. 

Edited April 1, 2015 by Coreythegiraffe

[Milkyways]

Well as far as I understand, all admitted MFA students have their tuition covered (instate or out). And I believe most are offered a TA position for both years like I was. The TA position isn't a ton, but the typical $4000 a semester. I also received a $3000 Research award for my first semester, I don't know how common this award is or if it is renewable. 

I'm also not sure if it is possible to ask for more money, since they already seem to be quite generous. I am calling them this afternoon to clarify some things. 

But in any case, like with most of the UC MFA programs, the funding is plentiful. 

Thank you!

[KSuverkrubbe]

I spoke with Yale directly as I have the same problem as Jaygray (my father wouldn't provide his finances) and they said there is nothing they can do unless I have court documents proving neglect/abuse. so if you don't have that they can only offer you loans. 

I don't understand this....I thought MFA's were considered independent......why do you need parent finances?

[chiboi2015]

I don't understand this....I thought MFA's were considered independent......why do you need parent finances?

Yeah I was wondering the same-they are the only school that does this. It has something to do with their funding being need based (I know it still doesn't make sense)

[Hamburgers86]

Hi guys, I've been lurking the last few weeks but am at the point where I would love your input for my situation!

Accepted to Bard and USC.

USC is offering 15k, first and second yr. Tuition is 39k/yr. There is the possibility of a TA ship, which covers tuition + 11k stipend (must apply, I think it's competitive - every other mfa student receives one). So that means at the very least a 30k loan and the most an 80k loan. Administration at USC isn't particularly nice or flexible about funding currently. They are also known to have a terrible rapport w students and faculty, but the program does have amazing facilities in an amazing city, and they have some great grants for alum to teach at USC and travel/research. Oh and classes you can take in other esteemed depts.

Bard is offering 11k and their tuition total for summer and spring is 19k. That's 24k for school which does not include the studio I would have to rent during my time in LA (where I live) and pay for access to the facilities I would like to use. Super nice administration and generous and thoughtful photo faculty. The program is in beautiful Upstate NY, but I do not see myself living on the east coast or moving to NYC. I'm currently in LA and have more of a community hear already so I question how I would nurture these east coast connections. The program is super intense but they say you get more FaceTime w faculty than a traditional school. You have studio visits nearly every other day during those 8 weeks. I'd have to figure out how to operate in a completely different place to achieve what I'm evolving in my work. Could be a great limitation and/or a pain in the butt since I'm moving towards sculpture.

Both have amazing intimate student communities and great faculty. What would you do?

Edited April 2, 2015 by Hamburgers86

[bannedinbc]

The first stage of the application was not very stressful for me. I didn't feel I had much to lose. But having to decide has made me feel under so much stress it even modified my sleep patterns.

I guess picking out a school is a down to earth decision and you feel it carries the responsibility of determining the future of your whole life. Still you can always transfer if you're not satisfied (I would rather avoid this of course, but it does help to imagine options).

 

I think that in your case all three programs are fantastic. And fully funded! You just need to figure out which one is the best fit for you: faculty, facilities, program's philosophy, personal goals and location. I don't know your work but I'd definitely would be between Rutgers (proximity to NYC) and I believe generous  stipend , and UCSD (reputability and solid conceptual base). I myself have considered attending the phd there after the mfa. We'll see. Good luck with your decision, any option you pick will be fantastic, and UCSD is indeed an amazing program. 

 

 

I agree with Milkyways. UCSD is a great program with a great history in Art, at least since the 60s, so if that's your choice, you should be happy with it. Rutgers would be great too... I don't think you can go wrong.

 

Thanks for the thoughts. I went with my gut today and committed to UCSD

[Milkyways]

Hi guys, I've been lurking the last few weeks but am at the point where I would love your input for my situation!

Accepted to Bard and USC.

USC is offering 15k, first and second yr. Tuition is 39k/yr. There is the possibility of a TA ship, which covers tuition + 11k stipend (must apply, I think it's competitive - every other mfa student receives one). So that means at the very least a 30k loan and the most an 80k loan. Administration at USC isn't particularly nice or flexible about funding currently. They are also known to have a terrible rapport w students and faculty, but the program does have amazing facilities in an amazing city, and they have some great grants for alum to teach at USC and travel/research. Oh and classes you can take in other esteemed depts.

Bard is offering 11k and their tuition total for summer and spring is 19k. That's 24k for school which does not include the studio I would have to rent during my time in LA (where I live) and pay for access to the facilities I would like to use. Super nice administration and generous and thoughtful photo faculty. The program is in beautiful Upstate NY, but I do not see myself living on the east coast or moving to NYC. I'm currently in LA and have more of a community hear already so I question how I would nurture these east coast connections. The program is super intense but they say you get more FaceTime w faculty than a traditional school. You have studio visits nearly every other day during those 8 weeks. I'd have to figure out how to operate in a completely different place to achieve what I'm evolving in my work. Could be a great limitation and/or a pain in the butt since I'm moving towards sculpture.

Both have amazing intimate student communities and great faculty. What would you do?

I would say USC with the T.A. stipend. Without it Bard and its proximity to NY would be my pick 

[atinyspark]

Hi guys, I've been lurking the last few weeks but am at the point where I would love your input for my situation!

Accepted to Bard and USC.

USC is offering 15k, first and second yr. Tuition is 39k/yr. There is the possibility of a TA ship, which covers tuition + 11k stipend (must apply, I think it's competitive - every other mfa student receives one). So that means at the very least a 30k loan and the most an 80k loan. Administration at USC isn't particularly nice or flexible about funding currently. They are also known to have a terrible rapport w students and faculty, but the program does have amazing facilities in an amazing city, and they have some great grants for alum to teach at USC and travel/research. Oh and classes you can take in other esteemed depts.

Bard is offering 11k and their tuition total for summer and spring is 19k. That's 24k for school which does not include the studio I would have to rent during my time in LA (where I live) and pay for access to the facilities I would like to use. Super nice administration and generous and thoughtful photo faculty. The program is in beautiful Upstate NY, but I do not see myself living on the east coast or moving to NYC. I'm currently in LA and have more of a community hear already so I question how I would nurture these east coast connections. The program is super intense but they say you get more FaceTime w faculty than a traditional school. You have studio visits nearly every other day during those 8 weeks. I'd have to figure out how to operate in a completely different place to achieve what I'm evolving in my work. Could be a great limitation and/or a pain in the butt since I'm moving towards sculpture.

Both have amazing intimate student communities and great faculty. What would you do?

 

I think there are many things to consider here beyond straight funding - you already live in LA, which means you won't incur the costs of moving, transporting artwork, storing your car, etc.  You have a network in place, so it won't be as hard to find a job and maintain your connections after school.  A TA-ship means you would have the possibility to find a teaching job at USC or elsewhere, which it sounds like Bard doesn't offer?

 

I think the whole "go where the money is" attitude is pretty shortsighted given how many variables there are when choosing a school.  Don't discount the advantage you have by already being familiar with the LA art scene.

[tcolcord]

Can't decide between a couple schools right now. Tyler offered me a free semester in Rome but then can't guarantee me funding the other 3 semesters, which really sucks because I want to go there the most. Im torn about it but I feel I may have to decline. I just can't justify taking out all those loans so I am really leaning towards Hunter starting in the spring. Hunter is soooooo cheap for NY and is also a really good school. Of all the highly ranked MfA programs it has to be the best bang for your buck. 

Im also on the waitlist for VCU though and really want to see how that works out as well.

I also interviewed with Columbia a few weeks ago and still haven't heard back. I know they probably won't offer much funding (and i therefore wouldn't go) but it bothers me that I haven't heard back. Gaaahhhh I thought I would have figured all this out by now. Maybe I am just bad at making decisions?

[yayaaaaa]

Can't decide between a couple schools right now. Tyler offered me a free semester in Rome but then can't guarantee me funding the other 3 semesters, which really sucks because I want to go there the most. Im torn about it but I feel I may have to decline. I just can't justify taking out all those loans so I am really leaning towards Hunter starting in the spring. Hunter is soooooo cheap for NY and is also a really good school. Of all the highly ranked MfA programs it has to be the best bang for your buck.

Im also on the waitlist for VCU though and really want to see how that works out as well.

I also interviewed with Columbia a few weeks ago and still haven't heard back. I know they probably won't offer much funding (and i therefore wouldn't go) but it bothers me that I haven't heard back. Gaaahhhh I thought I would have figured all this out by now. Maybe I am just bad at making decisions?

I'm biased I want to tell you Tyler !! Sounds like hunter is a great opportunity

[itscontents]

Anyone get into CalArts? If so, were you offered a scholarship of more than 50% tuition or is that the max? 

[aparticularkindofheaven]

I don't think calArts offers more than 20k. I've received 14k scholarship + 20.5k of loans. I know a student who received a 20k scholarship but that was maximum.

[Marchy]

Posted this in the Freakout as well-- Anyone accepted to Carnegie Mellon actually going?? 

I have done SO much research and very close to my decision.