jeanetics17 Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 On January 18, 2017 at 2:44 PM, dragonfrog said: I just received an email saying my application is being returned without review. The reason they gave for my ineligibility is "ineligible degree program or field of study (clinical, disease-focused, professional, etc.)." I have thoroughly read and reread the program solicitation and disagree with this. My field of study is microbiology and I am approaching it from a purely academic lab perspective (not clinical, not trying to develop new treatments, etc.). My research statement focused on quantifying gene expression of efflux pumps (used for drug resistance) in Helicobacter pylori. You could argue that the reason I chose this bacteria is "disease-focused" in that I am interested in it because it causes disease, but the research is just understanding how it works. It's not about etiology or epidemiology or any of that. I also had read sample applications from other individuals in microbiology who received the award, so I know this is not unheard of. I am appealing their decision (they gave me an email address and a deadline for doing so), but was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on why I might be ineligible or what I should say in my appeal letter. Does anyone know what the chances of actually getting such a decision overturned are? Are they even going to fully read my letter? Any thoughts/advice appreciated. Thanks! Sorry that this happened to you. The same exact thing happened to me last year. They rejected my application because they felt my research statement was too disease related; although I beg to differ. That's why people suggest never using the word disease and being careful with your words. It just sucks that you put all of that time and effort into it and you don't even get feedback. It's also ironic -- I find -- because they preach that they are funding individuals and not research. You're not even legally bound to do the project you propose. I don't think they do a good job with examining a proposal that is basic science (but inspired by a disease). Or alternatively they could be more transparent with what is acceptable or how they screen and ultimately flag proposals (is it reviewed by multiple people before rejected?). But it is what it is. This year I completely scrapped last years project/idea/field and wrote about something I knew they wouldn't have a problem with. sierra918 1
sierra918 Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 Only 3.5 weeks left until our misery is over ? busybee, rlb1au and britmact 3
Humulus_lupulus Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 Good luck to everyone! Last year was my last year of eligibility, and unfortunately, I was never a winner. However, I can't help but check back to this thread to see all of the excitement and suspense! (Fingers are crossed for NDSEG!) sierra918 1
sierra918 Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 12 hours ago, Humulus_lupulus said: Good luck to everyone! Last year was my last year of eligibility, and unfortunately, I was never a winner. However, I can't help but check back to this thread to see all of the excitement and suspense! (Fingers are crossed for NDSEG!) Good luck on the NDSEG! This is my last year of GRFP eligibility, so fingers crossed here, too!
smarcail Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 On 1/18/2017 at 2:44 PM, dragonfrog said: I just received an email saying my application is being returned without review. The reason they gave for my ineligibility is "ineligible degree program or field of study (clinical, disease-focused, professional, etc.)." I have thoroughly read and reread the program solicitation and disagree with this. My field of study is microbiology and I am approaching it from a purely academic lab perspective (not clinical, not trying to develop new treatments, etc.). My research statement focused on quantifying gene expression of efflux pumps (used for drug resistance) in Helicobacter pylori. You could argue that the reason I chose this bacteria is "disease-focused" in that I am interested in it because it causes disease, but the research is just understanding how it works. It's not about etiology or epidemiology or any of that. I also had read sample applications from other individuals in microbiology who received the award, so I know this is not unheard of. I am appealing their decision (they gave me an email address and a deadline for doing so), but was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on why I might be ineligible or what I should say in my appeal letter. Does anyone know what the chances of actually getting such a decision overturned are? Are they even going to fully read my letter? Any thoughts/advice appreciated. Thanks! Hi! I'm curious if this email went straight to your inbox or if it went to spam? Reading this now I am concerned that I might have also gotten that email but didn't see it because it went to spam! Of course I have my spam folder emptying every 30 days so I can't go in and check. Also, if this happens does it show up when you log in to fastlane? Are you able to resubmit?
jmillar Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 1 hour ago, smarcail said: Hi! I'm curious if this email went straight to your inbox or if it went to spam? Reading this now I am concerned that I might have also gotten that email but didn't see it because it went to spam! Of course I have my spam folder emptying every 30 days so I can't go in and check. Also, if this happens does it show up when you log in to fastlane? Are you able to resubmit? The final decision should show up in fastlane, but I don't know if the explanation would be there. You would not be able to resubmit this cycle.
Spaghettyohz Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) For reference, the dates that results were announced in previous years (mostly at 3 AM): 2016: Tuesday, March 29 2015: Tuesday, March 31 2014: Tuesday, April 1 2013: Friday, March 29 2012: Friday, March 30 2011: Tuesday, April 5 2010: Tuesday, April 6 2009: Friday, April 10 Be on the lookout for maintenance notices on the Fastlane site (within the time frame of 11 PM - 6 AM) in about three weeks! Edited March 10, 2017 by Spaghettyohz jmillar, busybee, yolk and 4 others 7
bearhat Posted March 10, 2017 Posted March 10, 2017 4 hours ago, Spaghettyohz said: For reference, the dates that results were announced in previous years (mostly at 3 AM): 2016: Tuesday, March 29 2015: Tuesday, March 31 2014: Tuesday, April 1 2013: Friday, March 29 2012: Friday, March 30 2011: Tuesday, April 5 2010: Tuesday, April 6 2009: Friday, April 10 Be on the lookout for maintenance notices on the Fastlane site (within the time frame of 11 PM - 6 AM) in about three weeks! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!
yolk Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 11 hours ago, Spaghettyohz said: For reference, the dates that results were announced in previous years (mostly at 3 AM): 2016: Tuesday, March 29 2015: Tuesday, March 31 2014: Tuesday, April 1 2013: Friday, March 29 2012: Friday, March 30 2011: Tuesday, April 5 2010: Tuesday, April 6 2009: Friday, April 10 Be on the lookout for maintenance notices on the Fastlane site (within the time frame of 11 PM - 6 AM) in about three weeks! In a poor attempt to introduce levity, would anyone want to take bets whether it will be Tuesday 28th (an early record) or Friday the 31st?
sierra918 Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 12 hours ago, Spaghettyohz said: For reference, the dates that results were announced in previous years (mostly at 3 AM): 2016: Tuesday, March 29 2015: Tuesday, March 31 2014: Tuesday, April 1 2013: Friday, March 29 2012: Friday, March 30 2011: Tuesday, April 5 2010: Tuesday, April 6 2009: Friday, April 10 Be on the lookout for maintenance notices on the Fastlane site (within the time frame of 11 PM - 6 AM) in about three weeks! Also, the list of awardees will go down on the night of, presumably because they are posting this year's awardees.
Midwest_newbie Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 Are there any kind of stats posted anywhere about the people who are usually awarded the GRFP?
Levon3 Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 On 3/11/2017 at 1:39 AM, Midwest_newbie said: Are there any kind of stats posted anywhere about the people who are usually awarded the GRFP? What kind of stats are you looking for?
Levon3 Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 @Midwest_newbie Some awardees have entered their GRE and GPAs on the results page. http://thegradcafe.com/survey/index.php?q=nsf+grfp Midwest_newbie 1
Midwest_newbie Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 19 minutes ago, Levon3 said: @Midwest_newbie Some awardees have entered their GRE and GPAs on the results page. http://thegradcafe.com/survey/index.php?q=nsf+grfp Thanks!
alcandkmk Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 On 3/10/2017 at 8:23 PM, yolk said: In a poor attempt to introduce levity, would anyone want to take bets whether it will be Tuesday 28th (an early record) or Friday the 31st? The two years I've applied it's been Tuesday so I'm betting on Tuesday the 28th! I've already marked my calendar for #teamnosleep sierra918 1
Levon3 Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 31 minutes ago, alcandkmk said: The two years I've applied it's been Tuesday so I'm betting on Tuesday the 28th! I've already marked my calendar for #teamnosleep ohmygod that's only 2 weeks away! alcandkmk and sierra918 2
dvasquez93 Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) Anyone notice there is maintenance scheduled for Thursday night and Friday night? Could this mean individual results Friday and then the list of recipients will be uploaded for Saturday? They've had "scheduled maintenance" now 3 times in a week so maybe results soon? 03/15/17 - FastLane will be unavailable from 10:00PM ET, Thursday, March 16 to 5:00AM ET, Friday, March 17 for scheduled maintenance. We apologize for any inconvenience. 03/15/17 - FastLane will be unavailable from 10:00PM ET, Friday, March 17 to 10:00AM ET, Saturday, March 18 for scheduled maintenance. We apologize for any inconvenience. Edited March 15, 2017 by dvasquez93 rockyMicrobe 1
sierra918 Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 1 hour ago, dvasquez93 said: Anyone notice there is maintenance scheduled for Thursday night and Friday night? Could this mean individual results Friday and then the list of recipients will be uploaded for Saturday? They've had "scheduled maintenance" now 3 times in a week so maybe results soon? 03/15/17 - FastLane will be unavailable from 10:00PM ET, Thursday, March 16 to 5:00AM ET, Friday, March 17 for scheduled maintenance. We apologize for any inconvenience. 03/15/17 - FastLane will be unavailable from 10:00PM ET, Friday, March 17 to 10:00AM ET, Saturday, March 18 for scheduled maintenance. We apologize for any inconvenience. I doubt this is it, although that would be awesome. They usually do scheduled maintenance periodically. Look for one on the 28th or 31st. That's my bet.
pascal_barbots_wager Posted March 15, 2017 Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, dvasquez93 said: Anyone notice there is maintenance scheduled for Thursday night and Friday night? Could this mean individual results Friday and then the list of recipients will be uploaded for Saturday? They've had "scheduled maintenance" now 3 times in a week so maybe results soon? 03/15/17 - FastLane will be unavailable from 10:00PM ET, Thursday, March 16 to 5:00AM ET, Friday, March 17 for scheduled maintenance. We apologize for any inconvenience. 03/15/17 - FastLane will be unavailable from 10:00PM ET, Friday, March 17 to 10:00AM ET, Saturday, March 18 for scheduled maintenance. We apologize for any inconvenience. They did this last year too, and it was just normal maintenance and no results. Probably gonna have to wait until 28/29! Edited March 15, 2017 by pascal_barbots_wager Levon3 1
Levon3 Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 Is this freaking anyone else out? https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/trumps-budget-would-slash-scientific-and-medical-research/2017/03/15/d3261f98-0998-11e7-a15f-a58d4a988474_story.html?utm_term=.ab69b3845114
psychpride9 Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Levon3 said: Is this freaking anyone else out? https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/trumps-budget-would-slash-scientific-and-medical-research/2017/03/15/d3261f98-0998-11e7-a15f-a58d4a988474_story.html?utm_term=.ab69b3845114 This is awful, and hopefully it shows all the scientists in the ivory tower that research and science are unfortunately political, whether they want it to be or not. Further reading: https://conditionallyaccepted.com/2017/03/01/science-march/ Levon3 1
Kaede Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, Levon3 said: Is this freaking anyone else out? https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/trumps-budget-would-slash-scientific-and-medical-research/2017/03/15/d3261f98-0998-11e7-a15f-a58d4a988474_story.html?utm_term=.ab69b3845114 Either we are the last lucky year for having a normal amount of awardees before the NSF's budget inevitably gets slashed, or we are the first unlucky year for having fewer awardees due to the new administration's threat of a downsize in funding. Edited March 17, 2017 by Kaede
paleoearth Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 They are up--at least for me. Didnt get it unfortunately. G/VG, VG/VG, VG/VG. Was expecting better grades honestly. Good luck to everyone else. Plantguypete 1
Plantguypete Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) NSF GRFP Results released! I GOT CHOSEN!!!!!!! Holy Cow! Applied as an undergraduate! Will be attending UC Berkeley for Plant Biology (PhD). E/E VG/VG E/VG Edited March 17, 2017 by Plantguypete busybee 1
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